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Hi, <p>I stumbled across this site while doing some research. I have not looked at all the info but the sections may be helpful to some. <p>I found another site called Divorceinfo.com and Divorcesource.com. Divorceinfo talks about affairs and even the syndromes of affairs. <p>Here is a sample of what I found at Divorcesource.com:<p>Affairs & Divorce<p>Introduction: Affairs are devastating to the trust that is the foundation of relationships. The person having the affair under appreciates its effects while the victim of the affair virtually goes into shock. Infidelity is usually the beginning of the end of any possibility for a quality relationship but it does not have to be that way. Sometimes an affair can lead to an enhanced marriage.<p>What Good Can Come from an Affair?: A list of six things that an affair may do for a relationship and the people involved. The list addresses several different possible angles, but as you already may realize, an affair can have many different consequences from the action and outcome.<p>How to Manage Your Partners Affair: The depth of trauma produced by your loved one's affair betrayal is mind and life altering. Affair stress impairs judgment, crushes the soul, undermines self-esteem, threatens the future and sickens the body. When this happens, it is necessary to manage your emotions as well as controlling and promoting beneficial rather than destructive reactions.<p>Uncovering Deception: As quickly as you suspect a lie, set up a plan of action to free your mind by collecting and evaluating evidence. Check out opposite sex contacts: 1) Unexplained breakfasts, lunches or dinners, coffee tete-a-tetes; 2) Home or hotel visits; 3) Cards or letters; 4) Suspicious phone calls; 5) Any clue that your spouse has been walking, talking, keeping company with an inappropriate person. Do not leap to conclusions; carefully accumulate evidence.<p>Types of Affairs: There are three types of affairs: 1) The bridge affair; 2) the self-serving affair; and 3) the repair affair.<p>Getting Back on Your Feet: You may have survived the most shocking stages of the betrayal but your journey is far from over. This is crunch time. Will you leave your pain behind and use the affair for growth, or will the affair subdue your spirit permanently?<p>Forums:
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If anyone has had experience with this site, please respond. This is not an endorsement, just an FYI.<p>L.

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Orchid - Thanks. I went to the Divorcesource.com site and could not find what you had posted. Can you help?<p>Thanks!<p> Dan

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Hi,<p>Scroll down where it says: General Information Categories. Look for Affairs & Divorce. <p>There are some writeups but this site is one that promotes books. So this is just FYI. The funny one is the other site it actually had a section about adultery. Here is an excerpt. <p>Adultery in Divorce
We want an explanation for what causes divorce. When one of the spouses in a divorce has an affair -- has been unfaithful -- we long to point to that as the reason. More often than not, adultery isn't the cause of divorce; it's just one of the symptoms. Signs your spouse may be having an affair
What to do about it
Does it matter?
When you've been unfaithful
Is this "the real love I always needed"? <p>Signs Your Spouse May Be Having an Affair
Sherry couldn't figure out what had come over John. Not long ago, he had been so gentle, so supportive, so loving. Over the last few months, however, he had become cold, distant, and strangely negative toward everything about her. She first thought he was right, that she really was an ineffective mother, a lousy lover, and a sloppy housekeeper. Then she thought John was going through depression. When she described his behavior, however, both her therapist and I had a strong suspiciou John was having an affair.
Where did we get the idea that spouses guilty of having affairs come home with a bleary-eyed apology and a dozen roses? Not the ones I see. They get mean. <p>Why? The nearest I can tell is that when I know I'm unfaithful to my spouse, I'm doing what I've learned all my life is against the rules. I have to justify it somehow. The easiest way I know to do that is to dwell on all the things that are wrong with my spouse. "I've put up with this *$#^@ for all these years. Of course I've eventually strayed. Anybody would under these circumstances." <p>Beyond that, of course, there are the traditional signs that your spouse is straying: Like long hours of time unaccounted for, explained by increasingly flimsy excuses.
Like strange smells.
Like coldness during sex.
Like frequent silence when you pick up the phone.
Like unexplained expenses.
Like a sudden and unexplained series of changes in your spouse's appearance and/or behavior.
Like those hints you're getting from your friends that you may be discounting. <p>
What To Do About It <p>You can start with what most people do when they begin to suspect -- and then conclude -- that their husband or wife is having an affair. <p>Go berserk.<p>It's okay. That's sort of what you're supposed to do. It is quite literally maddening to discover that your spouse is being unfaithful. You hate your spouse. You hate the other person. You hate yourself. You question your own worth and value. <p>You are consumed with curiosity. You want to know where they went and what they did. How big is his penis? How do her breasts and her rear end compare with mine? She's prettier than me. He's richer than me. What does she see in him? She doesn't seem like his type at all. What did she do with him? What positions do they use? You want to drive by when you suspect they're together and see whose car is parked outside. <p>You also want to know who else knows. Do his co-workers know? Do my friends know? How about his family? What are they saying about me? What do my spouse and the other person say about me? <p>Eventually, though, you can begin fashioning a more thoughtful response. It's time to rethink your marriage, of course. Are you still committed to it? Is there any hope for restoring your marriage? Should you confront your spouse with what you know? <p>It's crucial that you understand the difference between the angry feelings you have and the self-destructive behaviors that might grow out of those feelings if you don't find a way to deal with them. It is at this stage that you really need counseling. Or a helping friend. You might also visit Helping Each Other, where good people like you help each other get through this awful process of divorce. Read about the three divorces. <p>Should you hire a private investigator? That's a complicated question. First read Does it Matter? Then think strategically. If you're still convinced you need to hire a private investigator, do so. But when you do, make sure you're using the investigator as efficiently as possible. Gather photographs, models and tag numbers of cars, addresses, and phone numbers that might be helpful. Most importantly, gather and write down all the information you can about where your spouse might be at what hours, so you won't have to pay the investigator to spend hours at the time just watching and waiting. <p>Also, lower your expectations. It's a rare case indeed where a private investigator will actually be able to produce those proverbial 8 x 10 glossies of your spouse and his or her lover in the act of intercourse. More likely, you will end up with a succession of photographs showing your spouse and the other person together at bars or restaurants, perhaps kissing, dancing, or hugging, or perhaps going in and out of a hotel room or apartment. <p>You may also want to check out the site www.husbandcheating.com, which has lots of resources for women who suspect their husband is having an affair.
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Here's the link: www.divorceinfo.com/adultery.htm<p>~Marie

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Thank you both ! <p> My WS had told me yesterday that the loving things I had done were " just actions; tasks. You weren't looking at the connection."<p> And I bought it, after some thought. After all, I contributed to the "connection decay".<p> And then I came across this on the site.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>On the other hand, if I come to view love not as something I feel but something I do, I then can take full responsibility for whether I love you, and I don't need any response from you. I love you because that's what I do. I love you with curlers in your hair. I love you when you're staring intently at the beer commercials between quarters of the football game on TV. I love you, purely, simply, completely. Now that's love. <p><hr></blockquote><p> And I bought this, too.
Dan<p>[ November 13, 2001: Message edited by: Family Man ]</p>


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