<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Estes49:
<strong>gottruth?<p>Guess what? S got us tickets to Neil Diamond's concert in Dallas on Sunday. I'm excited!!! <p>Estes</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Estes,<p>Are you in Texas too? I am out in Longview.

Sure am, Melody,<p>Texas proud. Maybe that is where I get my tenacious streak [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] <p>But I'm was across the state from you in the West Texas oil patch. Grew up south of Corpus on oil leases and later in Ft. Worth.<p>My MIL lives down the street from Laura Bush's parents in Midland.<p>GW kinda makes you proud these days, doesn't he?<p>Estes

I have really liked reading this thread. I would like to do some more snooping. So far I have made copies of financial records, business records, tax stuff, mobile phone bills (w/ calls to OW on it), checks he paid for her rent. My problem is that my WS had set up his OW in a business they had started w/ other poeople before I knew about their affair. She is still in it and he has not told her to leave, is afraid of financial impact on him/us if business goes under. Irrrational I believe, I could work there myself, I have a couple of degrees. But I haven't been able to convince him, he is still in fog, I am trying to do plan A, tho I did major LB'ing last night and set back my efforts tremendously. So now I will start over.<p>orchid, what is US Search? I would love any info on any tips for snooping, whether its by electronic means to listen to conversation, or hiring a good PI, whatever. Supposedly he is no longer in PA, but am pretty sure Ea still going on to some extent since there is repeated contact w/ her thru the business. I would love to hear what they say to each other on mobile phone because he reassures me all the time that its just business, but I have a hard time believing it. So I would like to VERIFY.<p>momof42, I too trusted my WS completely for 15 years, then he confesses to many affairs including this last one. Very hard for me to deal with, because there have been so many, because of this current OW, because he is in contact sporadically w/ past OW (just friends now, says he). I really believe he has some mental problems due to low self-esteem, low self-worth. I think he feels better about himself when he "rescues" these women. <p>It makes me so sad that I matter so little in his eyes. <p>estes 49, I live in Lubbock, are you anywhere close? <p>Please let me know of any snooping ideas, I would greatly appreciate it.

firefly10,<p>This thread getting to long and I am starting a new thread that is exactly what you ask for ...<p> here

Hi, firefly;<p>I am a Tech graduate - a long time ago. Go Big Red!! I still travel up to the "big city" several times a year from Odessa. I enjoy Lubbock.<p>See you on the new thread.<p>Estes

firefly, <p>I wanted to add that your H's treatment of you does not diminish your infinite worth. It's easy to let yourself believe that if your beloved treats you as if you are unimportant, something must really be wrong with you, but that is the pain working on your psyche. The truth is that something is wrong with him, with his character. Nothing justifies cruel behavior that demeans another, especially a spouse. There are better choices to be made.<p>YOU HAVE GREAT VALUE. Remember that.<p>Estes<p>[ November 21, 2001: Message edited by: Estes49 ]</p>

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Estes49:
<strong>Sure am, Melody,<p>Texas proud. Maybe that is where I get my tenacious streak [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] <p>But I'm was across the state from you in the West Texas oil patch. Grew up south of Corpus on oil leases and later in Ft. Worth.<p>My MIL lives down the street from Laura Bush's parents in Midland.<p>GW kinda makes you proud these days, doesn't he?<p>Estes</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Oh yes, I love GW! My folks are in Lubbock and Amarillo and I have a little sister over in Midland. Small world...

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Estes49:
<strong>Hi, firefly;<p>I am a Tech graduate - a long time ago. Go Big Red!! I still travel up to the "big city" several times a year from Odessa. I enjoy Lubbock.<p>See you on the new thread.<p>Estes</strong><hr></blockquote><p>LOLOL! I am also a Tech grad! hahaa! Was raised in Lubbock

Firefly10, <p>Did Redhat answer your question? USSearch.com is where I got my info. It is a bit pricey and it depends on what you are trying to find out. I needed more than just a name and address, I had initially suspected illegal operations and drugs. What I did find I turned over to various authorities. If OW is ever convicted of anything, I will never know and really don't need to know. I will share this piece of info., I was told that while they could not disclose their investigation, they did thank me for pointing them in the right direction. This was not a tattle tale revenge trek, in some cases people who willfully break the law or take advantage of others for their own selfish desires do make life harder for others. This is not just A related. We pay higher taxes and more in services and goods due to security measures being taken to protect and defend our rights. See where the A stands in this regard? Too bad there aren't stronger laws on breaking up families. It is easier to get a conviction on someone stealing your computer or TV than stealing your spouse. <p>L.

Hi everyone!!! I'm new, Thanks for all the info, but can anyone tell me how to find out a password to get into his emails found out 3 days ago. EARLY in the A apprarently only been a month. Any other details on way of snooping.

hfd,<p>I started other thread on way of snooping but no taker ... sigh ...<p>One way of getting password is "cracking". If the email service doesn't do three strike you are out, you could guess the password that SO uses. If the email service has a reminder to display it when you forget the password, try it it might give you clue what SO uses.<p>There are several keystroke / computer tracking ... never need to use one but here is one of the link. More to come but ...<p>BTW ... could you open a new thread asking for help on snooping and also please put your profile so that we could also help you out. Welcome to MB and we beleive in re-building relationship. Check the link below ....<p>[ November 23, 2001: Message edited by: redhat ]</p>

REDHAT Thanks for the info. I know OW's name address, phone, but H is computer geek and has partitions installed and I need to know the password when it comes up under administrator. I guessed it once but blew my cover and H change it. Any suggestions from a man's poind of view. Was enigma if that gives you an idea. HELP anyone. He communicates through emails with OW when he's home or also on aol.

Hi Redhat Don't understand the thread thing. clue me in. I'm very new at this and it tends to get overwhelming.

hfd,<p>On the bottom of the page there is "post new topic" open up and create a new topic. I have enough knowledge to be dangerous. If you have access to a diff. computer buy www.catchcheat.com ... very dangerous software and you don't even need to do anything on his computer. Is H a hacker or just nerd ?. You might not want to use his computer to send this posts. Before we continue on let me ask you, what are you going to do w/ this information ?. H is denying it ?.<p>Snooping is essential but the most improtant is read up on MB. Pls post your profile ... just fact and no personal detail that people could guess who you are. See sample on people profile on the link below

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by hfd:
<strong>REDHAT Thanks for the info. I know OW's name address, phone, but H is computer geek and has partitions installed and I need to know the password when it comes up under administrator. </strong><hr></blockquote><p>hdf,<p>You can install iopus Starr software on his computer and have his passwords tomorrow. The software costs $40 and it secretly records every key stroke and that is how you get his passwords. You can download it at www.iopus.com. It is VERY EASY to operate. Let me warn you though, if you don't BUY it and get the serial # for it - a box will pop up every time he restarts the computer telling him about the software. ALSO, if you do this, it is imperative that you install it in INVISIBLE MODE and then select "DO NOT DISPLAY BANNER" or you will give yourself away.<p>If you have any more questions just email me at dana114@aol.com.

Redhat
Thanks for getting back so soon. H is not denying anything. Says I should give space... He's not sure of anything yet claims no sex yet. We made love the other night, Dday 2 have talked alot. Also will give kiss and hug just as if nothing different. He's sort of hacker and nerd. Self taught very smart. I also have pass word for my side of partion. I need snooping for piece of mine and details of what degree things are.

Redhat
Both sites sound good. When installed will they come up as icons on screen. Also, no family members know yet, iffy about using their computers. Will email you a little later. How do I post the details of my situation/profle.Haven't seen a spot for this.

hfd,<p>Read up on 50 signs ... look for "time discrepency", start looking into cell phone detail billing, home phone detail billing. I just registered my WW's cell (AT&T) so that I could see detail billing. You could buy voice activated recorder and hide them in the house and/or his car. For keyboard/password, the catchcheat will throw him off, I presume you have no access to his partition (dual boot ?). What os does he use ?. No, both iopus & catchcheat you could disable the pop up (stealth mode) and also run as a service so that task manager will not show it either. There is a freeware if you could installed it in his partition but he might detect it, I have not test it yet.<p>Again hfd, it is good you want to access the damage but have you read up on MB ?. Does H ever tells you why he has A ?. For new post click here
For profile click here
My email is inside_hacker@yahoo.com<p>[ November 23, 2001: Message edited by: redhat ]</p>

Melodylane,
Sorry, thought both responces were from redhat. Thanks also for your info. My mind and my eyes are not in the greatest of shape right now.

Redhat
We've talked about reason for A. It's both our faults, Greatly lacking communication. claims OW is more like him, can finish his thoughts never had that before. We've been together 18 years, M for 17, second M for both of us. between 5 kids. His, Mine, and Ours. Only ours at home still( age 15) Says she younger and A may not go anywhere, because that. Our history very complicated, yet know deep inside we love each other. Just dealing with alot of hurt right now. I know I need to be patient and he has told me that there's nothing I can do right now except let things run their course.
I'd Just like to get and rip her apart. I really think shes the one who started it, good looking man hurting and needs to talk.