O, Nina, Nyneve, Zorweb, etc.<p>NDtW is back on his thread "Trying to Recover from My Affair" on the Recovery Board and is seriously contemplating separating from his wife.<p>Just thought you guys should know.<p>Jo

Hi Jo,<p>I just posted. He thinks he is in love with the OW. Guess he doesn't know about what happened here. I gave my version and warned him to be careful. <p>I am not sure of his direction at this point. <p>L.

The OW is back! She is posting as Back2_1, as some had already guessed.<p>Those of you who worked wonders last time, you are up! Any takers?<p>Thanks.

I did what I could, guys. But it's gonna be difficult if his OW keeps showing up under assumed names. From what I know of her, she's been trying to track him and/or his wife down on other recovery sites as well. How sad for all involved.<p>belld

You know this solidlife77, then back2_1 seem like they are the same but do you think there is any relation to soulmate11? <p>RE: Back2_1 said that she was not Orchid's psyco babble OW. That is what I asked soulmate11 not solidlife or back2_1. <p>Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have seen these games before and know you have also. Getting kinda tired of it. <p>Well just wondering. Don't want to stir up any trouble. <p>L.

Yuck, yuck YUCK!!!!<p>I informed Xarelel, and now her posts are gone again....she emailed me thanking me....each time we see it, we should email the moderators right away....she will get sick of trying.<p>Poor NDtW!

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Orchid:
<strong>You know this solidlife77, then back2_1 seem like they are the same but do you think there is any relation to soulmate11? <p>RE: Back2_1 said that she was not Orchid's psyco babble OW. That is what I asked soulmate11 not solidlife or back2_1. <p>Maybe it is just a coincidence. I have seen these games before and know you have also. Getting kinda tired of it. <p>Well just wondering. Don't want to stir up any trouble. <p>L.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Orchid, too much coindicence. Wanna lay bets that soulmate's "friend" is ... well, I don't want to say his name, I might jinx this further. None had profiles. All registered and showed up on the board around the same time. All posted a lot of details that they should not have known about. Now ... *poof!!!*<p>belld

I've missed all of Back2_1's posts and some of the other's so I'm only slightly aware of what they are up to. But what I did read both from them and from the regular MB members, my guess is that all three are one and the same. Actually it's too bad he did not see that posts. He'd get a better picture of her. <p>I know STL was shocked to hear the thing his OW'en said to me. It was a real eye opener for him. <p>I am forever amazed at how many people will willingly particate in hurting someone else who did them no harm.<p>Z

Well unless my thread got edited, I copied some of soulmate11's posts on other sites. Same ol message comes through. This gals keeps promoting the same book. Wonder if she is getting a kick back? Just kidding LOL! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>L.

I'm glad you sleuths are keeping vigil here.<p>My appologies to Jacky for more-or-less saying "give the lady a chance" re SM11. I'm sure you were right about her.<p>Score : Intuition 1, Logic 0<p> [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>-AD

Thanks AD [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] - did you get my email?<p>We need our place to stay safe, and bring on the lookout for those who hurt others should be everyone's job. And I am not talking about the occasional flaming some give others....that person was/is on a mission. That is not good for the victim, nor for BS's who have to watch a OP in action.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Resilient:
<strong>O, Nina, Nyneve, Zorweb, etc.<p>NDtW is back on his thread "Trying to Recover from My Affair" on the Recovery Board and is seriously contemplating separating from his wife.<p>Just thought you guys should know.<p>Jo</strong><hr></blockquote><p>WHERE did you get that idea???

Do you all think you are being helpful by jumping to a conclusion because of a feeling I expressed here? You are acting like firemen rushing to a fire. Yes, feelings of despair come in, but we all have those. I don't think it does any good here to be treating me like an addict on this forum who needs intervention treatment.

Awww, come on Not Doing too Well,
What you haven't realized is that MBers are mostly all here to help by giving support and empathy and overall concern for the welfare of our marriages.<p>I don't believe it is anyone's intention to treat you like an addict who needs intervention, but rather as a friend who is hurting and trying to save their marriage. That IS why you came here, right? So it IS a major concern when people break up as a last resort--without applying the Harley concepts... It hurts all the MBers.<p>IMHO, the best BEST advice can be found out here on GQII... I post around various boards, and I think Resilient came here to rally the ones who keep a good overall eye out for protecting the MB family. AND, they have all been there done that and then some! (MBing, that is...)<p>Soooo, don't take offense when people are trying to support you and promote the healing and restoration of your marriage.<p>Someone asked you why you came here in the first place, I believe it was TryingAgain, (?) I'm not sure, but personally, I'm interested in your answer as I missed all the excitement over the holidays before your posts were all deleted.<p>That's what *I* get for not logging in to check on my "MB family" over the holiday... [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img] Sorry, had to be with my "real family." [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] <p>So you see, we're sort of a family out here, so please understand first and foremost, that nobody here is out to hurt you, okay? [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Hmmm... Then again, I hear that the OW could possibly be trying to find you out here, THAT could be a problem. It could be a problem because OW, esp. single ones in general, do not value marriage. At least I didn't when I was a single OW. Now I'm married and I am scared of my past. I am doing everything I can not to have it come back to haunt me. You know, what goes around comes around. Yeah, so I need to be here learning and absorbing and revisiting the devastation I caused to many, many lives...<p>I propose that if you take time to read the articles and Q&A columns by Dr.Harley, I'm sure that any or all of your questions can be answered without anyone's help on these forums.<p>[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: BINthereDUNthat ]</p>

NDtW,<p>I am just curious....did you see those posts we are all referring to?<p>BTDT is right, we are all here to help. We want to welcome any new memebr of this family, and keep the hurtful people out. As I said in my earlier posts, this ought to be a safe place to be, but sometimes the wrong people come in here, not only OP, but trolls and hurtful spiteful people who just want to upset others in already vulnerable situations. So we who have been here a while, tend to look out for the newbies.<p>I am sure you have come here hoping for guidance and compassion for your case, which you will wholeheartedly receive if you are comitted to saving your marriage.<p>The WS's here who tend NOT to get support are those who say that what they did was right, that they don't want to be married, they support their OP, and then they don't listen to advice. Clearly, they do not want to save their marriages.<p>You are right about the low spots...sometimes the BS's forget that the WS can have them too. You have split from OW, right? And you still have feelings for her...that is understandable, and we all know that here, though a lot don't like to think about that too much. <p>There is a period of withdrawal a WS goes through when they split from their OP. They badly want to call the OP, like you said the other day...I want to commend you again for NOT doing so. That takes willpower and courage.<p>I am sorry you thought we were being condescending towards you. That, I can guarantee, was not anyone's wish. What we wanted for you was to be free to make up your own mind about your marriage, without typical OP intervention.<p>Do lots of reading here. There is a pattern of behaviour in all the parties involved, and to be forewarned of these patterns will be of great assistance to you in the weeks to come.<p>Please keep posting, and please do not take offence at anyone....we wanted to help. Truly.<p>Love and light,<p>Jacky

Hi guys,<p>I'm sorry I wasn't here to help last night. My own stuff, you know.<p>NDtW, I'm sorry for your continued pain, and that you feel smothered by us. It is less of an intervention and more of a protection that we are attempting. Please know that we ALL have been there in one way or the other (and some of us, like me, from both sides)... there is NOTHING NEW to us.<p>And, we do care.<p>[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Nyneve ]</p>

Very sorry NDtW, was only trying to help.<p>We were thinking you wouldn't show again since you deleted the contents of your posts and then dissapeared. When I saw you posted again I wanted All to know you were back so they could pitch in and help. <p>I won't interfere again.<p>
My apologies ....
Jo

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Not Doing too Well:
<strong><p>WHERE did you get that idea???</strong><hr></blockquote><p>NDtW, I got that idea right from your post on "Recovery", you wrote you were contemplating separation in a post. I went back to that post and you deleted the thread. <p>I did not make it up, I read your words, and accurately quoted what you said. Why did you delete it?<p>Jo

Hey, I think his whole post has disappeared!!!!!!!<p>Oops! No, I found it!<p>I wish we could get some response!<p>[ November 27, 2001: Message edited by: Nina too ]</p>

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