I was following BeenWishin and Marsha59's posts for several days. I have noticed that BeenWishin has not been here for several days. Has anyone been communicating with him? One of his last posts alluded to suicide. That's scary!

Just for the record, as of this morning 12/9/01. Beenwishin's last post was 12/4/01:<p> <blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by BeenWishin:
<strong>Read the newspapers, SnL (from 1990). HIV is not a homosexual disease anymore!</strong><hr></blockquote><p>This post was the day after he posted on about the topic of ending it. <p>BeenWishin, if you are out there, please let us know how you are doing. If our others posts have scared you off, please try again. Like yourself, many of us are struggling over various issues. Sometimes our stress levels show. You know we are not 'professionals' in the accredited by a degree sort of way but the lessons in life have taught us a lot. Some of what you may hear is painful. It is for us also. As long as that pain is helpful to recovery either as a couple or individually, then like good medicine, isn't it worth it?<p>Thanks,
L.<p>[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Orchid ]</p>

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by BeenWishin:
<strong>All this debate over my sexual orientation is depressing. On top of being depressed and confused and hated by those around me who knows what has happened.<p>I am too embarrassed by what has happened. I am too ashamed of the impact on my life. I am too ashamed of what my boys' life will be like as the children of a homosexual.<p>I think it's time to end it all. My wife and kids can then have a "normal" husband/father.<p>Don't be surprised if you don't see me again.<p>Marsha...I hope things work out with your husband.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>Orchid:<p>From what I can tell, this was BeenWishin's last post. It was added on 12/04/01 at about 4:40 PM<p>What's wierd is we don't know what happened. There is no way to check and we may all be left in limbo, unless someone knows who he is.

Hi NDTW,<p>Thanks for the correction. I went by the search. You make a valid point, you can send a note to the moderators: Tempest or Magnolia<p>or the administrator: Admin@marriagebuilders.com<p>I recommend Tempest or Magnolia first. <p>If you need assistance, let me know. <p>How are you doing?<p>L.

Thanks. Maybe the moderators should be contacted.<p>I'm OK. I will tell you that my stated opinions havent really changed. I have softened my approach, though, and may have started understanding the value some have gotten from the site.<p>I just hope that people like BeenWIshin aren't destroyed by some of the comments made here.<p>[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Not Doing too Well ]</p>

Hi Ndtw,<p>ARe you going to contact the moderators? Sorry, I am kinda person that wants it all spelled out, no misunderstanding kinda thing. LOL!!! [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] <p>As for our comments sending BW over the edge? Well, unfortunately it could be but I think not likely. You see these words would have already been heard by him before. The posters here did not really express more than what BW already knew. It may have hurt to hear it said directly to him but as you can see this is an anonomous forum (we have user names not our real ones). I don't make that as an excuse but if someone would actually commit suicide, it would be more than because he got a few posts from here. <p>Let me share why I say this. I too have been on that brink of despair. So have others here. In fact a while back I became involved with another MBer who actually had the pills on her coffee table and was in the process of taking them when I called. She had posted her 'call for help' earlier. Her suicide attempt was adverted but her reason for it were deep. Some here thought she was bluffing (because there had previously been another story about a death of a WS and OW - that some thought was a hoax). So the board was divided and some doubted the girl with the pills. That girl made it through her ordeal. BW can also. <p>In BW's case, his situation invokes many opinions that touch our souls. That is why some those posts were so strong. BW did realize that because some of his struggles were along the same lines. I too am worried so contact to the moderators is probably the best thing we can do for now. <p>BeenWishin, if you are out there, NDTW and others are concerned (me included!). Please let us know how you are. <p>L.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Not Doing too Well:
<strong><p>I just hope that people like BeenWIshin aren't destroyed by some of the comments made here.<p>[ December 09, 2001: Message edited by: Not Doing too Well ]</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I seriously doubt that anyone was "destroyed" by any comments here - comments don't have the power to destroy. It is a CHOICE to kill oneself that destroys, not some comments made by strangers on the internet. While I certainly hope that he didn't kill himself, I am dubious that he ever had such intentions. One doesn't usually announce such a serious thing to strangers on the internet unless it is to manipulate some attention and high drama and that is exactly what I suspect. [and maybe to attempt to make those feel bad who disagreed or criticized them]<p>A person who is serious about suicide just goes out and does it - they don't dramatically announce thier intentions to strangers on the internet. A pretty cruel game if you ask me.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by Orchid:
<strong>Hi NDTW,<p>Thanks for the correction. I went by the search. You make a valid point, you can send a note to the moderators: Tempest or Magnolia<p>or the administrator: Admin@marriagebuilders.com<p>I recommend Tempest or Magnolia first. <p>If you need assistance, let me know. <p>How are you doing?<p>L.</strong><hr></blockquote><p>I didn't get a chance to e-mail the Administrator. I had to leave the site yesterday and this is my first chance back. Have you heard from him?