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#962628 12/10/01 12:15 AM
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I registered back in April when I discovered that my husband had an affair. I posted a few times and then just spent my time reading what others wrote. <p>To be as brief about my situation, my WH and I have been separated for about 2.5 months. It just wasn't working between us as I needed more from my husband than he was giving me. It was too stressful living with him and it was affecting my work. He moved out and we still kept in contact and continued counseling. I have been slowly uncovering stuff and everything came out last week - well nearly everything. I discovered that he is living with a woman and has another girlfriend. I found out that the affair in April had not ended...it continued until last week. I had NO idea. He is so deep in lies that everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie to one person or another. <p>So, here I am, thinking we are reconciling and then I find all of this out. He told me just 10 days ago that he wanted to move back in, that he loved me, that he was changing, etc. He brought me flowers last week when I was sick and less than 24 hours later I discovered the multiple girlfriends.<p>Now, to my question...I believe that my husband as a sexual addiction. There are porn sites on the computer (we have traded off using it every other week) - he denies looking at them. He was also abused as a child. All these things and all the lies and affairs lead me to believe that he needs major help. I know that he needs to WANT the help, that I can't do it for him. But, do any of you have experience in this area that you can tell me about. We live overseas and I am trying to get him to go home to get help...sigh...this is all so hard when you are away from home. I just don't see him getting the help he needs here. I don't want him to go, but know that he should.<p>I love my husband dearly despite the horrific things he has done to me. I am very confused now, but trying to keep my head on straight. Did you stay with your WHs who were sexual addicts? <p>I have to admit that I have seen topics of this nature posted before and I completely ignored them never thinking I was dealing with a husband like this.
Thanks for your help.
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Hi DT,<p>Sorry to hear the bad news. Overall you sound ok. I mean I know you are hurting but you sound like you are tryng to view things clearly and want to move forward. <p>My H had childhood dysfunctions also. His whole family did. Both parents had As. The porn thing was the beginning and culminated in a horrible A that we are still reeling from. <p>If you can search out those thread. Search under Porn, sexual addiction, childhood, dysfunctions, etc. If you can't find a counselor, the Harley's offer phone counseling sessions. Maybe that might work out. We spoke with STeve once and it was good. I recommend it. <p>Take care and keep posting. <p>L.

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DT,
I can't believe I did not notice your post earlier. I have time constraints & am not the speedist typist. I have read a lot about SA & I believe that my WW suffers from this condition. The problem is that I find my self not only in a codependcy state, but co-addict state at times as well.
I would agree that it sounds like your H may suffer from this condition. As you may be quickly learning, this topic will bring a lot of mixed reactions. This classification as an illness is only about 10 years old. The overall acceptance of this as a bonafide Illness is about where the general acceptance of alcholism was in the 30's and 40's -- that is, that people that can't control the acting out (like the drinking, for example) are weak, immoral people with charator flaws -- few people recognise the true force this powerful compulsion for sexaulality has over certain people. Most counselors infact are not really equipped to recognise this as an illness.
I am fortunate in a way in that my WW, D(arling) W stated she thought this might be a reason she acted out, as if she was familar with SA. As time passed and as we learned more, she went into denial. The lucky part is that her initial counselor recommended a book which is really good in describing this & when reading it you will have a good idea if this in fact a condition.
The other lucky part is that when I was posting this summer about her & My situation, there were a couple people that were very outspoken about the fact that my WS --DW had this problem. Without that input, like you, I would have not devoted the time I have into undersatanding this & seeking help for myself.
The Book: "Out of the Shadows" by Patrick Karnes.
Help for myself -- yes, as a codependent, we are sick as well! We need help to overcome our part in this sickness. To focus on us and our recovery! The support group to which I refer is: S-anon -- 12 step program, just like Alonon.<p>There are also a number of web sites for sexual addicition, sexual compulsion, ect. which have different self evalation questionaires -- some better than others.
If you care to email me, I can give you specific addresses and/ or speak further if you like.
This illness does not mean a person is a petafile or rapist - like most things, there are varing degress & various, different aspects.
The one thing to remember is that the person with this condition is a sick person, not a bad person.
Another very important thing to remember is that like drug or alcohol addiction it is not really about the drug of choice (in this case escaping through sex or sexual fantascies &/or obcessions or compulsions of sex) it is very difficult to overcome. It ultimately requires a deep conviction & committment from the afflicted person to overcome this & it has to be something they want to do & something they recognise as an issue -- most of the time they do not want to stop -- it is there way to cope.
Another important point to remember in this regards is: "We did not create the problem, we cannot control it & we can not cure it." The afflicted person has to deal with this.
Eventually you come to realise that you first have to deal with your part in this thing.
my email:bhurrican@yahoo.com
Best of luck,
HH

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Thanks for your responses. I understand that I may have enabled the affair to continue without even realizing it, but can you tell me more about being a codependant? <p>I know that my husband can't change if he doesn't want it, but that is the hard part. I want it so badly but he doesn't. He just hurts me over and over. I do care though and I do love...sigh...it just leaves me in such a confusing place. I know that if he doesn't want help there is nothing I can do. Today his friend literally yelled at me on the phone never to call him again (last week his friend was the one who asked ME if I wanted to talk...he told me about one of the two affairs that I discovered last week). He was so mean telling me that I should just talk to my husband to find out the truth...yeah, if only he would talk. Also, he told me, "So he likes a lot of women, big deal. So he likes to look at porn sites, big deal. So do I." With friends like that, what hope is there? I couldn't tell his friend about the sexual abuse my husband endured as a child. I just felt like there was so much evil in the world after I got off the phone with this 'friend'.

I want my husband to go home (we live overseas)...esp now that Christmas is coming and he will be off work for 2 weeks...that can only lead to more trouble. I just hurt because I can't change things. I know I have to give up - that only he can initiate the change, but it is just hard. He's running so far away.<p>Thank you.

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DT,
Interesting questions. I don't have a good sense of your situation. Co-dependent? I think I have spent a lifetime unknowingly developing traits that make me a co-denpendent and I know for sure I'm not sure how to change that. I too struggle with idea of being an enabler vs. being a congenial, supportive person.
I have assembled a reference of different web -sites that you may find helpful. There is also a reference to a book by James Dobson, which I think is very valuable in this kind of senerio!
Sexual Addiction / Sexaholic Anonymous, Related Web Sites:<p>http://www.sa.org/<p>http://www.sarr.org/<p>http://www.ncsac.org/article.htm<p>http://www.sexaddict.com/<p>Issues of control, dependency:<p>http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5055_qa.html<p>Signs of Co-dependency:
http://nccod.netgate.net/signsof.htm<p>Handling Sexual Tension in Marriage --Platonic relationship?<p>http://www.growthtrac.com/articles/article_30_1130.shtml<p>James Dobson&#8217;s book: "Love must be Tough"
Best of Luck!
HH<p>A

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DT,
Hope you are hangin in there!<p>Your posting caused me to go back & review a few things I have not reviewe in a while.
Here are more web sites that may be helpful to you:
Codependency:<p>http://nccod.netgate.net/signsof.htm<p>Setting personal Boundaries / Joy2<p>http://www.joy2meu.com/Personal_Boundaries.htm<p>
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S-anon &#8211; Interaction Web site:<p>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Progress-Meeting<p>
Know that we care!
Peace be with you,
Hh


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