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I do realize the fact that our communication is
and has not always been up to her liking is due to her always critizing me when we do talk. Who would want to
talk under these circumstances? <p>I already posted some of their conversations that have been
going on for over 11 months. Here is some more. Always the same, they start off with
how are you´s, chit chat and then him laying into her that she is not
living her dreams and desires. That she is free and no one can tell
her what to do with an intimate part of her life that only belongs to
her and them. Thats his credo and his philosophy.<p>What I find curious is how they both feel like victims, trapped in
their situations, not able to live the freedom they desire. (ie
having romantic relationships) There conversations are always full
of indirects. For example.<p>HER: It´s true, our relationship is giving me strange sensations
HIM: Sensations or desires?
HER: I´m interested in meeting you
HIM: OK me too. Like you always say "Destiny will take us where it
must"
HER: Peter, my marriage is not giving me all that I need and want but
I want to improve it and make it last. It´s true you are in my mind
and stimulate my thinking. But I do not want to have an affair with
you or anybody.
HIM: You know we do not think alike, an affair does´nt mean a
marriage breakup. It can be a fine tuning.<p>AND SO ON......<p>Even when I was in intensive care with near death complications after
heart surgery thay were in contact. They had not yet even spoken by
telephone. He had convinced her to calling him saying, " Call me,
you need to talk, do it for your husband". Of course the next week
he wanted to talk again but this time is was not for me.<p>What bugged me the most is that then crap went on for months. My wife
checking her mail 5-6 times a day, chatting 3-4 times a week. Always
when I was working. E-post cards of flowers. Erasing the Windows
registers. What was going on here??<p>Well they finally did meet during Christmas.
Apparently nothing drastic happened as I did know where and when so I
called her cell an hour or so later and she was already with our
kids. They chatted again recaping their meeting and
there "friendship" then a telephone call during their chat. Since
then it´s all telephone and I´ve lost track.<p>I really don´t think anything will happen with this guy as he is not
very attractive and lives a 1000 miles away. It´s tommorow and
someone closer that really concerns me. I think this may be a trial
run in some way for her.<p>I did not get married to have to deal with this garbage. I have
learned much more who I married to and I am really debating my future
with her. I have tryed to be more communicative to her but she still
ran to the computer. She knows I know about him and constanly reminds
me I have no right to infringe on her actions as she sees nothing
wrong. Only if she knew what I really know. <p>My family and close friends do not want to see me suffer every day
not knowing what will be her next move. The reality if it was not
for my kids, I would have brought all of this out in the open and
probably would call it a day. She is loving to me and we have no
problems in bed, so I am even more confused. What I do know is what
I mentioned before. Some people such as her and some of her friends
are perfectly capable of leading double lifes. They have their
families, spouses and lovers. I am not made of that material so time
will tell what destiny has to offer. All I want to know is what she
really wants, so we can both decide. <p>Thanks again for listening
Rich

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Yes,
I'm listening and I hear you. It IS quite obvious that your wife has no desire to have a PA with this guy but is definitely involved in an EA...<p>She clearly stated to him that she wants to keep her marriage, but wonder if she is really aware that her verbal abuse of you is driving YOU away!? Perhaps she should be told. Maybe through a link to a helpful website since she loves being on the computer so much...<p>Do a search and send her a link! Harley has a great writeup on how SHE could better meet your need for admiration (the opposite of criticism...) Good luck! [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] It doesn't sound like she is going anywhere, but she seems to be pushing you to the back door and she doesn't even realize it!!! Please TELL HER what she is doing to you so she can (hopefully) get her act together!

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rich, want to try something radical? Establish an on-line persona, and see if you are able to establish an on-line relationship with your wife...this would be an unusual tactic, and you would need to be honest in your communications with her (not manipulative because of your extra knowledge), just conceal your true identity. If you are able to establish a rapport, use some of it in everyday life, if you (both) find this becoming desireable, then plan some interesting way to reveal yourself.<p>a. start dropping hints she can figure out.<p>b. sit down and have an "honesty" meeting, and tell her you had the objective of breaking the patterns you two have, and chose this, and now reveal it so can discuss what has been learned.<p>c. agree to meet her, and plan something really cool, special, romantic whatever...but be prepared for a terrific shock when she sees it is you...could be a really wonderful thing as she realizes she is falling-in-love with "you"...or she might kill you.....I dunno.<p>Anyways, I am a radical kinda person, when it comes to solutions, but if you feel the need to somehow break through her barriers, this is kinda a stealth approach....just make sure you are doing a top notch plan a at the same time.<p>would also probably be a good idea to prepare a letter explaining in detail how you feel now, and why you are doing this, and give it to her when you are "discovered".<p>[ February 08, 2002: Message edited by: sad_n_lonely ]</p>

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What a wonderful idea. But be careful to not hang her with her own words. Don't go on complaining about your wife so that she becomes sympathetic. When she finds out it's you, you'd better run. That would LB right in your face. But, I agree. She wants you to pursue her, I think. [img]images/icons/cool.gif" border="0[/img]


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