Lorisue --<p>Nor am I good at standing in the wings awaiting my cue, so I hear you very clearly. You phoned OW out of self-preservation and an attempt to protect and recover your marriage. You were decidedly proactive for your relationship. Why shouldn't you have called OW? MB says not to interfere in the A, that it most probably will die out on its own in 6-8 months, that the WS will resent your intrusion (and he does!). So?...there's really no rule book here, no script for this. None of us really KNOWS what to do, what's best, what's right. We just....do and hope it turns out for the best.<p>Tell him you don't want to hear any of this "only real love" cr*p about her--ever! Your H is in The Fog and until it lifts, you probably will be subjected to more of this verbal abuse, "disrepectful judgements," and similar thoughtless comments. <p>On the other hand, TTF (above) has some excellent advice for you. Now, you may need to bide your time since that and patience could be your wisest course. What feels right for you? <p>I think you're doing a marvelous job of holding yourself together throughout this. You've got a good and stable take on circumstances. It's hard to keep cool when the flames are licking around your ankles. You've done and said some very smart and caring things to him. Don't worry about his "hating you forever for calling her." The Fog prevents any clear or rational thought on his part; part of his anger is his very real guilt about this, not just his imagined "loss."<p>Hang in, Lorisue, and keep in touch with us. <p>Ammon