I'm a long time lurker, but new at posting. So you'll have to forgive me for mistakes. You have all been an inspiration to me. <p>I love some of the responses on this thread and thought I'd let you in on something I found on the internet that was really funny. It relates to HangingIn's idea. A small Canadian company is selling custom made toilet paper with your least favourite person's picture on it. [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] What a nice, therapeutic way to relieve that anger, eh? They also have other similarily funny things for sale.<p>http://halflife.com/<p>~ Timid

Great thread...and the way I'm feeling (sounds like I'm in the same rut as Jo), I hope that she'll one day experience even a fraction of the pain she's helped to cause and that she will also be forced to see the expression on her child's face when Dadddy leaves...then she will know and understand. And I also hope that she is never able to forgive herself. <p>Boy, that felt better.

I had some good thoughts too. But, I've committed not to say them anymore (to bad I only listen to myself when there's a record of it.) Anyway, there's a prayer under poems...please read it, I don't think anyone has. Thanks.

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by HangingIn:
<strong>I posted this once, but still I bet a custom made OM/OW punching bag would be a hot seller. [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] OR voodoo dolls.. hmm theres an idea.. [img]images/icons/mad.gif" border="0[/img] grrr poke poke poke!<p>Peacefully yours,
HI [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img] </strong><hr></blockquote><p>I liked your disclaimers at the beginning<p>voodoo dolls:
the "LB fairie" who I happen to be on personal 1st name terms was very good at the voodoo doll business, [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] :<p>this game has been played before here, my former favorite, was to take the OW photo and plaster it on billboards all over The Woodlands, TX with either a scarlet A on chest or whore written across the top (as my then WH but now STBX was sending her money, think she quailfied) [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>I like Cali's idea have always been drawn to quatering & such <p>however after learning about the Taliban I really would love to send the OW to them and let those wonderful excuses for human beings deal with my personal worst nightmare<p>but as I can't or wouldn't do any of the above I just drag my feet on the divorce which cause her to live in sin that much longer, she really hates the fact that my STBX is not divorced yet and she can't get him to push the divorce, so my very uncomplicated, so far divorce is taking a very long time [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......<p>What would I like to do to the OP?<p>ALL OF THE ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>A bit extreme? Hmmm?<p>NAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<p>The B!tc# deserves it. [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]

I would like him to reap exactly what he has sowed. I would like for him to feel the devastation and the heartache for which he has been at least partially responsible for making.<p>I would like him to know that my wife was as close to suicide as I have ever seen her while she was staying with him. I would like him to feel the heartache that my sons felt because he was part of the reason that they lost their mother for almost 5 months and the mental and emotional toil the 2+ year EA had on our family.<p>I would like for him to know that whereas she trusts me enough to have me hold her while she cries over the pain she has caused not only my family but his as well she never felt comfortable enough with him to have him hold her while she cried for the pain she had caused us.<p>I would like for him to see the person she has become as a result of ending the affair and coming home to rebuild our family. The good times, the smiles, the happiness, and the laughter. I would like for him to see it and know that he ultimately has only caused sadness in her life. <p>I would like for him to experience all these things with the same depth of emotion as she and I have becuase to be honest I don't think he really cares very much about anything but himself.

I've said this before, but it's always fun to reminisce. [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] <p>What I'd like to do is explain to his wife (or xwife, he might be divorced now) what he had done to her and his children's lives. Then I'd like to watch her carve his heart from his chest with a dull, hot spoon and laugh at him all the while.<p>Failing that, I'd really enjoy it if he were horribly maimed and disfigured in a fiery one-car rollover.<p>I also think it'd be fun to know he was in prison sharing a cell with a very large, very amorous man. [img]images/icons/shocked.gif" border="0[/img] <p>There's really no shortage of ways for him to suffer. The sad thing is that no amount of his suffering would ease mine.

I just hope that Melsy Welsy, my husband's girlfriend from four years ago, falls deeply, head over heels in love with a wonderful man of her own, so much in love that she gives up everything in life to be with him. I hope that she marries him in a glorious festive wedding, with all of her family and friends in attendace. I hope that her parents and siblings love her husband as much as she does, and he becomes part of the family. I hope that she idolizes him with her entire heart. I hope that she hangs on his every word, that he's gorgeous and treats her like a queen. . .<p>Until one day, he stops treating her like a queen. . .one day, he starts completely ignoring her, and she has no idea why, despite all her questions. . .in fact, all of her desperate attempts to break through the ice only makes him moodier and more distant. . .he starts coming in later every night. . .he rarely calls from work, and when he does, it's just another excuse to stay late. . .and when he lays down with her at night, he scoots all the way to the other side of the bed, and rolls over and faces the wall while the tears start flowing from her eyes. Why?<p>He's looking better and better these days, more handsome, better groomed, well-dressed and physically fit--and more distracted. He seems to have little time--and less money. While complaining about all the money she is spending, all the sudden, he appears to have all the little "extras" that before he didn't bother with: Nice clothes. Sporting equipment. Cologne. Music CDs. In fact, he starts listening to music that he never listened to before, and talking like a teenager. He carries a new cell-phone to which the number is unknown to Melsy Welsy. God help him if he forgets his cell-phone--ever.<p>He starts acting. . ."sneaky." Everytime Melsy-Welsy walks into the room, he quickly closes down the screen on the PC. He carries on telephone conversations in a low, muffled voice, late at night when he thinks everyone is sleeping. If Melsy Welsy dares to ask him who he is talking to, she is shocked to have hear his angry and defensive reply. (Do I have to tell you every single bit of my business? Aren't I entitled to some privacy?! Jeez!!!!)<p>Then the day comes when Melsy Welsy finds a condom wrapper on the floor of his car, or in his pants pocket, or in his brief case. . .why does she find this? When she asks him, he doesn't look at her, but looks at the ceiling. In an impatient and disgusted voice, he fills her in with a detailed yet seemingly casual explaination. . .(Oh, I don't know, it was stuck to my shoe. It's just a piece of trash, why are you worried about it? You're crazy, you have a soap-opera mind. How should I know how it got there? You're the one who does my laundry!) Melsy Welsy believes every outlandish tale, because she loves him and trusts him. All she knows is that he is acting strange these days, and it breaks her heart. . .<p>When she can take it no more, she gets angry--what is going on?!!! She gets to the point that she screams at him--and he says cooly "You're crazy. You just can't control yourself, can you?" With that, he packs his suitcase and goes "somewhere" to get away from her, because she is making a scene. She's picking fights. She's a b**ch. She follows him out to the car, pleading "Why?!!!" He is nonchalant. He says "Because our marriage was a mistake from the beginning, and you are proving it right now," is all he says. <p>She is sobbing "God, no, please don't leave me! I love you, please." To which he says "Look, it's just not working. Go back in the house, all the neighbors are watching you freaking out like an idiot." He climbs into the car. She runs to the window, preventing him from leaving. <p>He is angry as he tries to back the car out of the driveway. "Please, don't you love me at all?" she begs. <p>He has a pained expression on his face. He says "We can be friends. But I am just not in love with you anymore. I am sorry." He backs out of the driveway and is gone with no hestiation, leaving her sobbing, leaving her soul burning like a wildfire. And then he's gone.<p>But not for long--he comes back here and there. Never to "talk." Not wearing his wedding ring (what has he done with it?) He comes back to eat and sleep and use his "stuff." He comes back just enough to emotionally torture her (This is my house. I worked for it. I have the right to it. If you don't like it, leave.)<p>What has she done? Why? Why is she not good enough? What did she not do for him? What did she do TO him? She can't stop crying, she thinks night and day--what, why?<p>Doesn't even dare to guess--WHO? until the day the cellphone bill comes to the house and it is covered with one number again and again. She comes right out and asks "Is there someone else?" And he shouts "No! You're crazy! I guess I am going to have to leave again because you're about to have another one of your dramatic episodes, huh?" And he storms off.<p>With him gone, she calls the number on the cell phone bill. A woman's voice answers. Melsy Welsy hangs up quickly, guiltily. What a snoop she is to be going through her husband's personal business! It must be one of his business contacts, she tells herself. Never mind. . .

Double ]<p>[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: Bernzini ]</p>

I would really like for the OW to get hit by a car from behind today, and for it to really really hurt her back so bad that she is in excruciating pain for 2.5 yrs... and ongoing... and no one can figure out what to do with it, except give her pain pills, which make her unable to be who she really is- so she is zonked out, and unable to do what she normally does. like exercise, clean, etc... and then have her H get tired of her feeling bad, and cheat on her... and never fully understand her pain, and have no one else fully understand her pain, becuase she looks quite normal... except that she gains over 80 pounds from no activity and the pills, and eating junk food, from not feeling like cooking ... and she doesn't feel like cleaning either.<p>BUt basically, let's have everyone abandon her...<p>and let's have her be unemployed, and let
s have her suddenly have 2 kids, age 9 and 3 with all their wants and needs and etc... and lets have an ow c ome into her H's life and start going out drinking and playingn darts and having sf with her h, all the while she is sick, but mind you she can still get around... so people - including her h, disbeleif her pain... <p>TRY THAT OW! and let's have the ow call her a montster and try to do everything possible to destry her family she has worked 11 hard yrs to build and maintain... and the H who was doing better, and being more responsible has now fallen deep into drinking ... with the OW! and he is an alcoholic... but he was doing way better and being responsible before he met ms.... slut of the yr... ow!<p>OK, I can go on... but basically this is what she has done to me, expcet I only gained 40 lbs.. I wanted her to feel a little worse!<p>HONEY

Hey, heres a question.
Not that I would ever consider it, or that I would hope it would come to it, but consider this:<p>If your WS ends up marrying OP, but after ends up having an A with YOU. Would that really be an A?<p>Well I answered my own question when I typed this.. yes. Despite all the spite, I wouldnt do that even if the opportunity came up for what it does to all involved.<p>
I now return you to your vent.

I would like all the above to happen, (not the affair one), but one more permanent thing. All WS, have a big red tatoo on their forehead, a big red A. If they had 2 affairs, 2 big red A's, etc. like the OW my H had. Wouldn't that be ironic to walk down the street of downtown where the stores are to see all these BIG RED A's. And to have the A's itch or burn somewhat. No makeup will cover it, no lotion will soothe the itch or burn, and the brightness never leaves.<p>I like the toilet paper, (send a roll to the OP for them to use) the voodoo dolls are cute! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img]

<blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr>Originally posted by HangingIn:
<strong><p>If your WS ends up marrying OP, but after ends up having an A with YOU. Would that really be an A<p></strong><hr></blockquote><p> Interesting question. I am very respectful of other people's marriage vows, always have been. However, if my WH had divorced me and married the OW it would have been completely meaningless in my eyes. An unholy union born of lies, deception and the pain of others. If that had happened and he'd shown up here for some nookie after marrying her I would have shown him the time of his life if I darn well felt like it and had no guilt at all. After all, she thought it was okay to do the same to me. It would just be repaying her the favor. I'd never be anyone's dirty little secret though. I'd call her up and tell her all about it, right away. Hey that was a fun fantasy lol!
Honestly though for me it's not relevant. Even if we had divorced the one thing I'm 100% sure of is that he never would have married her. The fact that it was an EMR was the only thing that kept it going for 6 months. If he had been a single guy he probably would have dumped her in 3.
My sister's H divorced her for an OW and then started begging her back after the divorce was final. OW was still in the picture. Her exH promised that he was only keeping her around until my sister took him back, just in case. She had sex with him one more time, just so she could have the satisfaction of knowing that he had cheated on the OW too. Then she kicked him out and made sure that the OW got the info. She said that for her it was very liberating.

Vent: not on the same lines. I know the answers but hey I let my mind wander too far today and am feeling quite pissed. just feel free to gloss over this.<p>What in the F*cking world what my wife thinking when she started all of this crap. HOW the Bloody hell can you decide to sleep with someone much LESS someone else's spouse. I love her to death, but DAMNIT how the hell can someone so smart be so goddamn stupid. If things got so F*ING bad why couldnt she tell me instead of sleeping with some lousey son of a b*tch. WHY IN THE F*ING world did she go back if it was such a F*ing mistake. sometimes I wonder if she deserves me.

sigh.
then again some days I wonder if I deserved her in the first place.<p>ok im done. thanks. (censored for your reading pleasure.)<p>[ February 12, 2002: Message edited by: HangingIn ]</p>

No marriage that comes out of a relationship that began as an affair can ever be valid, so such a union would not be deserving of any respect.

I would just like her to face me and my children, look full into the faces of the victims of her sin of adultery and face what she did to those who did not deserve it. We never did anything to harm her.<p>I would also like to hear her side of the story, and I'd also like to see the two of them (OW and H) in my and the children's presence at the same time. I'd like both of them to experience what they avoided all during the A--to face each other and the family they conspired to destroy at the same time and place for a change. IOW, I'd like both of them to be slapped very hard in the face with REALITY.

Hello!
I am sorry I made you cry at work. Was your office door shut? [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]
I hope that isn't what sparked your angry vent...although...maybe I am glad. Better to vent like THAT here than to her! [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]
I know that I am not a BS, but I was wondering if I could say what I would do to OM? If that should find its way to another thread I shall respect your wishes. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]

(cough cough) my H says that he would like to beat the livin crap out of him so that the next time he thot of me?? he'd think about picking his teeth up out of the dirt.<p>period. <p> [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif" border="0[/img]
Mercy
WS

D Day for me was a few days back, so my vents aren't with any sense of humour whatsoever. I can however say that my mind has run amok with sick and twisted possibilities of what I would do to OM, from infecting him with the Ebola virus to having him flung into a wood chipper feet first. <p>Moreover though, I wish technology had found a way to victimize the offender, giving him the pain I feel in ascending degrees until he was driven mad. Torment would be a much better thing than just physically hurting him. <p>What is disturbing enough in this early stage for me is that I never knew my mind was capable of imagining this degree of violence against another person. <p>After the A - I am secure enough to know only this; a) I will never harm or cause violence to any human being that didn't threaten mine or my families life directly, and b) being flung into a wood chipper feet first would feel like a day at the park compared to the pain I feel.<p>feel better having said that
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Oh I love this thread...heheheeh<p>hhhhuuuummm, let's see. I'd like for her to gain 200 lbs first of all (funny thing is she's gone from a size 2 to a size 12! [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] and as short as she is she looks huge) <p>For her to lose her job over it (she's a teacher at a christian school) <p>I'd like for her to know all the wonderful things he's doing to repair the damage he's done. I'd like her to know and hear (great idea)what we did the other night and know that while he was screwing her in the backseat of a car he was coming home to me IN MY HOUSE and making love in OUR bed! To let her know what a stinking whore she has been. That no matter how beautiful she is, or how good she was, he's still here with me NOT HER!!<p>For her to see us together, me wearing my brand new wedding ring, renewing our vows. While my children and all MY friends are watching.<p>And last but not least, I'd like to beat the cr*p out of the sleazy, b****. ooops [img]images/icons/blush.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img]<p>[ February 14, 2002: Message edited by: margue ]</p>