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#983886 03/10/02 12:38 PM
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Anyone seen this movie? <p>I haven't yet, but just watched a show about it. Looks wonderful. Seems like it would have triggers in it for some of us. It's about a genius, who meets a wonderful woman, they fall in love, marry, and then his world falls apart as he begins to suffer from Schizophrenia. She stand by him through it all, and was incredibly difficult for her to continue loving him - as he wasn't himself anymore. Her strength, commitment, LOVE, and perseverance seems to be the main reason for him making it through the illness, and later winning a Nobel prize. They show his acceptance speech in which he gave his wife all the credit - he could have never done it wthout her - she was everything to him. What if she had given up on him? What if she had decided to pursue her own happiness with a "sane" man?<p>Based on a true story.<p>Sometimes we compare our WS's affairs to an illness, in that if we stand by them, believe and persevere, they will come out of the "fog", and return to the marriage, resume life, and rebuild.<p>I have to go see it now, after watching that little show about it. I guess it was a "behind the scenes" kinda thing. <p>Anyone seen the movie?

#983887 03/10/02 12:51 PM
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Hi Faith,
I saw it with my W. It was a long movie, but didnt seem too drawn out because it had a few surprises and nice heartfelt moments. It wasnt as much of a tearjerker movie as I thought it would be. Also it didnt focus on the wife as much as you'd think it would. All in all it was a nice movie.
I saw it with my WW during a stressful time and we didnt have too many triggers if any I think.<p>Let us know what you thought!<p>-HI

#983888 03/11/02 01:35 AM
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My H and I really enjoyed it. But what confuses me, is that my H read that this man was gay? Where does the wife fit into that? At the end they mention that he and his wife still live next to the campus where he still goes everyday. So I don't know what to think!

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Thanks HI! I guess I feel it will be triggers for me, since I helped my H battle cancer for 2 years. I felt I was being a good wife helping him through it, and NOT that I expected anything in return (that's the wrong reason to help anyone), but I sure thought my investment in my marriage would "pay-off"... would be worth it... would always be there for me.<p>But also triggers as we soemtimes feel as if we're believing in our spouses... being their safe harbors in the storms... loving them despite their "new" behaviors (during or post affair).<p>That's interesting to know that they didn't focus on the wife as much as I got the impression... maybe that's just what stuck out at me.<p>Anyone else seen it yet?

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I don't think that there is anything to him being gay. In fact, I have heard that the book tells of an affair he had. They left that out of the movie. It's a good movie. It has a surprise for you.<p>Estes

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Actually, the movie portrays his wife as much stronger than she was in real life - she left him at the time he was diagnosed, though eventually she returned (20 years later) and remarried some time after that. <p>It was a movie that had profound meaning for my husband and me - and what we have been through together as a couple.

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I haven't seen the movie but I read the biography. He had a child out of wedlock with a woman who was of lower social status - a child whom he for the most part ignored. He was bisexual, and lost his security clearance when he was arrested for soliciting sex from another man. <p>The acceptance speech was fiction - apparently acceptance speeches are not even given for Nobel Prizes in Economics. He received the prize for work that he had done many years previously. <p>His second son, the one by his wife, suffers even more severely from Schizophrenia than did his father. Apparently the elder John Nash was one of the relatively few who undergo spontaneous recovery, or at least very long term remission. In the book, his wife/ex-wife is not made out to be particularly sympathetic character.<p>His story is primarily one of terrible tragedy.

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I haven't seen it, since it hasn't come out in the UK yet, but my whole family (in US) has - my brother died in May 01 at 42 after 23 years of the worst kind of unremitting paranoid schizophrenia. My family all say it's a wonderful film, although they all cried all the way through it, because it tries to show the world as schizophrenics see it - schizophrenics are victims of the most horrible disease - terminal illness is better - i know that sounds harsh, but anyone who has watched a loved one suffer what my brother suffered will understand why I say that - it's a physical, neurological, probably genetically-based condition with varying degrees of severity. People don't understand it and are (sometimes quite rightly) frightened of people suffering from it - but the person underneath the illness is still a person - a loved family member, often tragically aware of what is happening and powerless to do anything about it - medication can only do so much, and they have very powerful side effects - the liver damage which killed my brother was probably caused by the cocktail of meds he took for 23 years. I'm glad this is a topic here.I'm glad people are trying to see it and becoming more aware and sympathetic - if only my H were - I found out about his 1st EA the day after I returned from my brother's funeral. What a guy!
Odile

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wow... this is interesting stuff! Good background on the real story... thanks!<p>odile, I can't imagine going through everything you and your family has!! THanks for sharing. Wow... we never know or can understand what other people are going through. [img]images/icons/frown.gif" border="0[/img]


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