Here is a direct quote I read that made me think:<p>"... Annie refused to excuse her family for their mistakes.
"That's not my job," Annie said, "It may, in the end, be your job to forgive them -- for your own healing -- but it's not your job or mine to excuse them, to pretend they didn't do what they did do."<p>Yes, Annie is the therapist in this fiction book. Can anyone place the quote? I thought I would challenge you readers out there. [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Anyway, when I read it last week, it really hit me how I could replace "family" with "WH." I think sometimes I do too much excusing, rather than true forgiving. And I can't really heal based on pretending he hasn't done this - it isn't the truth.

Bump. Hint: It's SciFi!<p>[ March 23, 2002: Message edited by: Bgentle ]</p>

I have NO idea .... <sigh><p>[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: Resilient ]</p>

Sybil?<p>Never mind. Just realized you said fiction.<p>[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: Conqueror ]</p>

The Prince of Tides?<p>Never mind, you just said Sci Fi. [img]images/icons/wink.gif" border="0[/img]<p>[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: new_beginning ]</p>

BGentle,<p>Did they make this "book" into a movie, hmmm?<p>Jo

Sheryl,<p>Just to detract for a moment but that movie "prince of tides", I saw a part of it last weekend, Heart wrenching.......WS was the W, A going on @ the hospital and the BS (Nick Nolte) was taking care of his sister who was in the hospital after a suicide attempt??!?!? ! <p>Tooo scary. He could have posted that story here and fit in with the rest of our horror stories. <p>Then B Strisand (sp?) is a psycologist with a dysfunctional family of her own......it was just really hard to watch. The part where d/d is done over the phone and then her saying she just doesn't know what to do was way toooo real. <p>Good acting, almost too good. ya know?!?!?<p>Too bad there wasn't a scene where he came on-line @ MB and got support. LOL [img]images/icons/grin.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/tongue.gif" border="0[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img] <p>Funny thing, H was watching it for a while also (we came in the middle of it and had to leave before the ending), I noticed he was having a hard time watching this also but he just couldn't leave until he had to go to work. Thinking of renting it now. <p>
Does it have a happy ending?!??!?!<p>L.<p>[ March 24, 2002: Message edited by: Orchid ]</p>

Happy ending to the Prince of Tides? Gosh, I don't remember. I read the book too... it WAS wrenching. You know the Nolte character was raped as a child by men also... and... therapists HATE that movie, because it is the CARDINAL RULE to not get involved with your clients.

"Prince of Tides" ... rivetingly sad movie.<p>Nolte's character and his sister, as children, by their mother's instructions, never said anything to anyone after being raped by those men that broke into their home.<p>I like the part where the mom made that "special" dinner for drunkie dad after he refused to eat her gourmet meal. Alpo can be quite tastey, so he said.<p>Jo

I saw the dog food dinner part but missed the
'rape' of the children message. Now I will have to see the whole movie. Hm.........it was painful but it will do me no good to only have 1/2 a memory of this movie. <p>L,

Read the book...Pat Conroy is one of my favorite writers! All of his stuff is good. The book gets much more into the whole FOO dynamics, and yuo realize the Nick Nolte character was not the Prince..it was his brother.
T

Beach Music by Conroy was excellent too!

The Prince of Tides is my all time favorite movie. It came out in the midst of my own long ago affair. It spoke to me in so many ways. What I remember most was the impact of the separation on the children. In the end, I felt the movie was about healing. <p>Orchid, do go out and rent it and watch the whole thing. It's worth the $3.25 and then some. It was beautifully shot from a visual standpoint too. Made me schedule a trip to South Carolina to see the beautiful scenary in person. It was just as lovely as the movie portrayed it.

Please BGentle...Tell us what the book was! I'm a sci-fi fan and it's driving me crazy!

Sorry so slow to respond - web down.<p>"Once a Hero" by Elizabeth Moon. I read the book for pure escapism from my less than satisfactory life, and I hit this quote. Now I have to figure out how to stop excusing WH.