Oh yeah...since the recent D-day I've definitely been feeling blue, so I just LOVE IT when the following conversation takes place with WW.<p>BACKGROUND: OM had 3-year live-in engagement that broke off 10/2001. OM proposed to WW after only 3 weeks of EA. EA did not start until 1/2002 (I have the e-mail history: correspondence until then was sporadic & purely business, then abruptly shifts to lovey-dovey).<p>Last night...<p>BS to WW: "So tell me, OM has been our kid's piano teacher for last 4 years and you say that while you enjoyed conversation with OM about "art" and "music", your relationship with him was just on a platonic, friendship level?"<p>WW to BS: "Oh sure. We did sometimes meet at a cafe and talk. We go to the same health club and talked there sometimes." <p>BS to WW: "Hmmmmm. So he would meet with you occasionally, even while he was engaged?"<p>WW to BS: "Sure. But, you know, it was just a friendship. Just talking. I think he likes to have women as friends only."<p>BS to WW (...as friendly & accepting as possible...no LB): "Let me ask this. If you were engaged, wouldn't you be a little, uh, concerned, that your future husband was having social friendships with other women?"<p>WW to BS: "Oh yes. But ours is different. I'm possessive of my man. By the way, sometimes when I call him, he doesn't pick up the phone when I know he's home. Should I be worried?" <p>BS to himself: "....well duhhhhh, you dumbo!!!!!...you don't even trust him NOW!!!"<p>If I weren't so in the dumps, I would have burst out laughing right then and there. <p>Still, the EA is definitely on. Plan A is underway, but Plan B may become necessary given how resolute she sounds. She's in a fog so thick she can't see three feet in front of her.

This was actually a good conversation.<p>The seed has been planted into her head....and by her own thoughts. She already doesn't trust him.<p>The A isn't that old yet and she's already having doubts as well she should be.<p>Of course she is going to think that her relationship with him is different. He's roping her in.<p>He definately sounds like a womanizer to me.....unfortunately your WW will probably have to be hurt by him in order to clearly see it for herself.

Wow what a coversation. What a great line she
said about not allowing it for herself because
she is possessive of her man. What a hypocrite.
It is clear that this guy is a player and clearly has been with other women.
This conversation makes it obvious that she is
in bigtime with this guy. It is foolish to believe
that she has done everything but SI. Do you really think your wife would believe you if you said that you were thrilled with this other woman and you and she had engaged in everything physical but sexual intercourse. I guarantee you that she would laugh in your face and rightly so. I urge you to make sure that both of you be tested before you resume physical intimacy.<p>She asks you if she should be worried that he
does not answer the phone when she calls him when she know he is home? I don't know how you are
able to take this disrespect. Good Luck.

The coversation was amazing. Tell me again why you wish to be with her? It really seems hard to imagine that she has engaged in sexual intimacy except for sexual intercourse. What do you think her reaction would be if the roles were reversed?
This OM sounds like a real player and therefore quite hard to believe that he engages in everything with her except for SI. I would strongly suggest that both of you get tested if you are intimate with her.
The conversation indicates that this OM has her
tied around his finger. The conversation also indicates how disrespectful she is of you and your marriage. She really sounds like a piece of work.
I think you deserve better if she is not willing to discontinue contact and go into counseling.
I wish you luck.

I am sorry for the double post.

Bryanp, I appreciate your candidness. <p>Keep in mind, the A is 2 months old and I'm implementing Plan A, for now. Plan B comes later (not sure when). That's why I'm staying...to implement Plan A.<p>AND HELL YES SHE'S DISPRESPECTFUL!!!