Wow stop the pity train FSA, you are not a failure!! Repeat that to yourself "I am not a failure, I am not a failure"<p>Your WH failed your marriage vows you did not, you did nothing to cause him to seek out the OW.<p>And yes he did love you as much as you have loved him, what he is saying now is FOG talk! He keeps saying it out loud so that he may come to believe it. You know what you know about your marriage and that is what is important!!! Don't let him get to you!! He wants you to believe the garbage that is coming from his mouth about your marriage and his love, it validates what he is doing and shows that you are ok with what he is doing if you start believing him, don't give him the satisfaction!!<p>Sorry, it just really hit close to home when I read your post. I am in about the same place as you are we have negotiated through everything and the waiting time is up on Sunday so the papers will come next week. WH is really pushing the garbage right now, trying to make himself feel ok about what he is doing. UGH!! I just turned it back on him in an e mail and said that yes the marriage sucked and I should've gotten out so much sooner yada, yada, yada (not that I believe any of this) but did get an e mail back that had a lot of anger in it!! And he has been nicer this week in correspondence.<p>Just don't fall for his line, believe what you know about your marriage it is what is true!!<p>I am so sorry that you are in this place tonight, I do hope that things get better for you!!<p>Take care, I will be here for a while if you want to talk!!!<p>Dawn [img]images/icons/smile.gif" border="0[/img]