I've never heard your back story. When you first started posting, it was as advice. Since we've had that here before from a number of trolls, I've been paying attention to your posts.

You wield a pretty tough 2x4, but I don't see any of the nurturing support that the pros here deliver in a pretty balanced way.

Anyway - here is your thread. Let's hear your story! Let's read the reason for you to be credible in your tough love approach to helping betrayed folks grow a spine and mentally toughen up. Who delivered it to you and how did your recovery work out?

Maybe she's Bubbles's long lost sister...

?

Whew, I thought it was just me.

This is an insult to me. I have changed my entire marriage due to MB. It took a hard three years.

Me too!

I think there are many fake stories on these boards. Look closely and you will be able to tell. If the fake ones were not on here there would be fewer interesting posts to respond to.

Come on Bubbles, you must admit... the two of you sound very similar in your advice...

I mean you both think that parents would be better off dropping their kids off at an orphanage, having tubes tied, and razing people that have children, etc...... just sayin'

B4U, I say this, not as an attack, but as a polite comparison. You are both very similar in your advice. The only difference is we know your back story. Mai Mai however is possibly trolling the boards just as KA suggested, and you're not.

I would love to hear Mai Mai's back story as well.... But Mai Mai has been asked this question about their back story before and defended themselves by saying, NO!

I like how you say "defended themselves"! LOL

The mods don't care if people insult me,,,,I have noticed....

You're all welcome to give advice as you see fit. I'll do the same. I do not believe I differ from MB practice at all. I just cut to the chase a little quicker.

There are enough 'nurturers' here. No need for me to add to the number.

What I care about are the children that these selfish addicts scatter about in their wake of adultery.

If you feel I'm inappropriate I would invite you to utilize the alert a moderator function.

Bubbles - first of all - I'm old enough here to remember your back story before you signed off on that old i.d.

I don't believe you're MaiMai.

MaiMai has never posted a single post about her/his situation that brought MarriageBuilders to their attention.

So I didn't post this to offend you, and frankly for that matter, offend MaiMai. But since there has been some excessive 2x4s being swung, with nasty comments and personal attacks, I'd give MaiMai a chance to explain the back story and legitimacy of his/her presence here before I start educating her/his victims about how to block offensive and abusive posters.

Believe me, I do use that moderator function.

And you still get to explain your legitimacy here, or you are no better than BestAdvisor who has never been married, has no experience and just gets his jollies off of piling on pain!

Why NOT give your background story?

He who has nothing to hide, hides nothing.

Not that I must but sometimes appeasing a gathering mob is in one's best interest.

I am a BS who survived and has a recovered marriage.

BTW, here is what is suggested to those wishing to post here...

This forum is open not only to those who have questions, but also to those with comments or suggestions. So we recommend that all participants of the discussion forum be familiar with Dr. Harley's Basic Concepts. However, the advice given is NOT to be construed as professional advice, nor is it even endorsed by Marriage Builders, unless Dr. Harley is specifically named as the responder. It's available to you as an opportunity to explore other people's opinions as they relate to your problem.

Uh, you left something out... it also says (at the top of this page):



So knowing this... be prepared.

That's your back story? Is it just me, or does no one else find that enlightening?

Sorry, MaiMai, I just find your approach differing widely from MB principles. The preamble to this forum also says:

"One of the most important requirements for becoming a member is that you read all of Dr. Harley's Ten Basic Concepts. Click the tab "Basic Concepts" above on the header to find them. The purpose of this Forum is to help couples use those Basic Concepts to overcome marital conflicts and restore romantic love. "

I don't see your advice as promoting those Basic Concepts. Just my opinion.

"Appeasing a gathering mob"...... ROTFLMAO!

You MUST have been a wayward! That could only come from a waywards mind..... "gathering mob", I swear, you're crackin' me up!

You're fine if you're auditioning for a part in "Law and Order SVU", but this feedback is not marriage building. Just what are your intentions in this feedback?



And frankly, I find your claim to be a betrayed spouse particularly "incomplete".

Again - what is your story? what makes you think you have anything of value to offer? This feedback cited above is not beneficial to the person to whom it was directed. I'm not asking you to coddle - far from it. I don't coddle either. But there is a grand canyon of difference between "directness" and cruelty.

I think you're on the wrong side of that canyon. Sir. Or Ma'am.

I'm not here to enlighten you. And, yes, it's just your opinion.

Then what ARE you here for? Because I haven't seen one enlightening post from you to ANY poster on here.

To show NP where Margie abused her children.




So what. I'm not here to please you.


I gave you my story. Would me reliving intimate painful details somehow legitimize me in your eyes? You continue to think as you choose.

A statement is not a back story.

How have you used MB principles in your M?

The great thing here is that you are entitled to your opinion and I get to post mine.

Is this a test? I use MB everyday.

No offense was intended, Bubbles - especially regarding the state of your M and the role MB plays in it.

I was only referring to your posting style - you are more entertaining than Mai Mai, but you have a similar no-nonsense style.

No, the great thing about this forum is that it helps people use MB to save their marriages. It's about advice based on those principles, not random opinions.

And yes, even a slight back story would probably appease most people here. Because it gives value to your advice, and gives a testimony to MB, instead of making victims of people who come here hoping for guidance and help.

Mai Mai - I have my answer. Not the one you gave, but your actions more than your words speak that you are here for your entertainment, not for the benefit of those you post to.

Sorry, I'm not spending time coddling a child abuser who is also in an affairage and is a serial cheater.

If I could call child services, I would in a heartbeat.

Maybe I can convince her to do it herself.

Then you can fix her.

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MaiMai.....explain where in your advice you have referred to MB ONCE, please.

hmmmm, me thinks I've met you before....

Try the 'view posts' feature. I'm finished defending myself from this nonsense.

Lets get back to marriage building and leave the critiques to the moderators! Thanks!