SS, I don't know much about punk, but I bet you know less.

"Sail On" is a classic.

Sail on yourself. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

GC

Hey Gray,

That was a pretty deep musing. Are you sure it was only "a" beer? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I can't think of the song "sail on" so I will post the lyrics to "sail away", another classic! Instead of a boat, picture yourself on a bike, taking to the open road, wind in your hair and loving, funny, pretty girl on the back...

For you lil bro!

Artist: Styx Lyrics
Song: Come Sail Away Lyrics

I'm sailing away, set an open course for the virgin sea
I've got to be free, free to face the life that's ahead of me
On board, I'm the captain, so climb aboard
We'll search for tomorrow on every shore
And I'll try, oh Lord, I'll try to carry on

I look to the sea, reflections in the waves spark my memory
Some happy, some sad
I think of childhood friends and the dreams we had
We live happily forever, so the story goes
But somehow we missed out on that pot of gold
But we'll try best that we can to carry on

A gathering of angels appeared above my head
They sang to me this song of hope, and this is what they said
They said come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me

I thought that they were angels, but to my surprise
They climbed aboard their starship and headed for the skies
Singing come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me
Come sail away, come sail away
Come sail away with me

I've gotta ask . . . which "Sail On" are you guys talkin' about? Classic could be any number of things, right? lol. I can't claim to listen to any one kind of music so I am thinking it could be one of a few. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

The phrase "Sail On", when applied to music, always instills this kind of. . . I don't know, quietness, serenity, in my soul. Maybe because I live near the Big Water and sailing, or just being on or near the water, is such a large part of people's lives here. Out of curiousity (and a vast amount of boredom), I went on-line and sought out every song with "Sail On" as a title. Imagine my surprise to discover that many -- most -- are about moving forward in life after a relationship (why this surprises me I am not sure, lol). Either people gain a lot of perspective out alone on the water, or they think they will, in spirit if nothing else.

I know I have gleaned a few hard truths about myself and my surroundings while sitting on the beach, beer in hand, staring out at the waves. It's where I sometimes go to think when I need some sort of clarity in my life. I guess "Sailing On" is just an extension of that, actually doing what you were imagining.

Some people get a similar clarity by being near the mountains. I too love the mountains but my heart doesn't call out for them like it does the Ocean. Sorry, John Denver.

~ StillLovingHim

Hi Graycloud !!!

SS, I don't know much about punk, but I bet you know less.

You got that right.

"Sail On" is a classic.

That's what I was thinking when I did the quote. A classic poem by Joaquin Miller

However, I thought about it. Your grandmother was probably not an english teacher, and you probably didn't have to memorize lots of poems, and read lots of poems when you went to grandmas house. I'll include the full text below.

Sail on yourself. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I try - and I know you do too. I left a nice thought with Binder, and this was my attempt to do so for you. Perhaps it will mean more now.


Columbus
by Joaquin Miller

Behind him lay the gray Azores,
Behind the Gates of Hercules;
Before him not the ghost of shores,
Before him only shoreless seas.

The good mate said: "Now must we pray,
For lo! the very stars are gone.
Brave Adm'r'l, speak; what shall I say?"
"Why, say: 'Sail on ! sail on! and on!"'

"My men grow mutinous day by day;
My men grow ghastly wan and weak."
The stout mate thought of home; a spray
Of salt wave washed his swarthy cheek.

"What shall I say, brave Adm'r'l, say,
If we sight naught but seas at dawn?"
"Why, you shall say, at break of day:
'Sail on! sail on! sail on! and on!' "

They sailed and sailed, as winds might blow,
Until at last the blanched mate said:
"Why, now not even God would know
Should I and all my men fall dead.

These very winds forget their way,
For God from these dread seas is gone.
Now speak, brave Adm'r'l; speak and say" --
He said: "Sail on! sail on! and on!"

They sailed. They sailed. Then spake the mate:
"This mad sea shows his teeth to-night;
He curls his lips, he lies in wait,
With lifted teeth, as if to bite;

Brave Adm'r'l, say but one good word;
What shall we do when hope is gone?"
The words leapt like a leaping sword:
"Sail on! sail on! sail on! and on!"

Then, pale and worn, he kept his deck,
And peered through darkness. Ah, that night
Of all dark nights! And then a speck --
A light! a light! a light! a light!

It grew, a starlit flag unfurled!
It grew to be Time's burst of dawn.
He gained a world; he gave that world
Its grandest lesson: "On! sail on!"



So, that's the way I see you. This is a place you have not been before - it's not for the faint of heart, but you sail on. I think you will find the shore you are looking for.

SS

Weaver,
The one by Styx isn't bad either. I know it well, it has much the same meaning.

SS

Cool! And the poems not bad either!

Well I don't know if Gray is getting inspired by all this "sail on" talk, but I am. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Stilllovinghim,

I am a water person too. I am never more at peace than when I am on "my" island.

I'm thinking about the "Old Man & the Sea" now. Oh and also "The Shipping News"... both incredible.

I think I am going to rent "Old Man & the Sea" this weekend. What the hey, hey?

Well back to work for me. Another day, another dollar. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Aaaaah. Clarification.

When it comes down to it, they all mean, or at least imply, about the same thing. Uncharted shores. Unexplored territory. With only our clumsy, unfamiliar sextant and a hazy knowledge of the stars to guide us, we embark on our voyage.

Ever hopeful, yet tending to look back.

I guess I am having a pensive day. Sorry guys.

~ StillLovingHim

Hey SLH,

You said:

I guess I am having a pensive day. Sorry guys.

How come you are sorry? I see your post as very thoughtful and well written.

I think we WERE pretty much talking about the same things.

SS

Hi Weaver, Hi SS -- I love Hemmingway. And I thought that poem was fantastic, too! So often as a child I rebelled when I was force-fed worthy literature but somehow a few of the true greats managed to stick with me and not in my craw, lol! Only now can I look back and appreciate them. I just finished Kate Chopin again; perhaps she had something to do with my mood earlier! *grimacing and laughing* I find myself being drawn to her over & over when I want to be an independent Old Biddy. I need to put her down and leave her down.

Weaver, do you have the opportunity to escape to the Big Water often? Our "Peeg Vater" leaves a lot to be desired but it has the waves, sand, amazing scent (aaah!) and fish so it works! I try to take my Arabian gelding down there once a month or so and just ride for miles, thinking. It cleanses my soul and restores my sanity like nothing else in the world. Nothing compares.

SS, thanks for absolving me of my prior Meloncholies. When it comes down to it, I have nothing to gripe about. I just stumble sometimes, you know? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Got to go set the cable-recorder-thingy for Battlestar Galactica, as H is out of town, and we missed most of last season. Darnit! I'm dyin' here!

Man I love cable.

~ StillLovingHim

Wanted to clarify -- I'm "dying" because I can't wait to see what happens next on the show (BSG), and I have to do the magnanimous, generous thing and wait for my H to come back from being out-of-town before I can watch it, too. LOL.

If I didn't love the man so much. . .

*very big grin*

~ SLH

Well SLH, if you call Lake Superior the "big water" I do. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I do love the ocean though, and I know what you are talking about. My dad was big on sailing...and canoeing, anything on the water. I think I inherited it.

I love Hemingway too. I'm back to a point in my life where I can watch "depressing", and it just makes me so happy! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Have a good night, and I think I saw on your posts count that you are new here so WELCOME to MB. Enjoy the ride! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I hope you are here for marriage building and not because of infidelity.

Take care!

Don't know where to start!

The classic "Sail On" I was talking about... the Bad Brains tune.

I'll be going to an event this weekend, but I won't talk about it here.

SLH, I'm gaga for the ocean. Stupid, living in the middle of the continent. But you know, Weaver's lake is a beautiful, mysterious, really extraordinary place. I'm with you... mountains are nice, but the ocean is the ocean.

SLH, like weaver - and you may have assumed this - I'm curious about you.

SS, funny. That poem has the same meter as the Bad Brains tune. Maybe the Bad Brains ripped it off, though theirs is about a breakup.

You said, "I think you will find the shore you are looking for."

SS, you know what? I will. I know it. It's still vague though, where I'm headed.

<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Love you guys.

GC

Weaver, Lake Superior is certainly "BIG" enough, wouldn't you say? *grin* I inherited my love for the water from my father, too. He's still my "2nd best friend". *smile*

GC, I thought it might be Bad Brains -- but, hey -- it *could* have been Lionel Ritchie, just like those tyrannical dictators you mentioned a few pages back. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> No, really, that song works here, too. LOL

LOL ~ Weaver, GC, your inquiring minds want to know, but gosh, guys, what are my diminutive troubles compared to so many of you!? My H & I are in love, always have been. I'm 31, Tiger (H) is 39. We've known eachother since I was 15, though we didn't begin dating until I was 19. We've been married for 10+ years, very happily for the most part. Recently, stresses outside our marriage (his 2 jobs, money, kids, the usual) have been wreaking havoc on our relationship. I'm sure you know the rest -- I've been feeling neglected, pushed aside, ignored, unappreciated, etc. I found myself getting too comfortable emotionally with other friends (yes, male, similar passions) when the person I should be depending on is Tiger, so I came here in hopes of bolstering my resolution to commit my EN only to my H. No, I never had an affair, P or E. Was I tempted? Yes, to the latter, never to the former. I know in my heart that Tiger is the only man for me. We are meant for one another. Were situational circumstances different, he would be fulfilling all of my needs, easily. There was a time when he did just that, and I hope he would say the same of me. But things have changed. Now, he leaves for work at by 7:30-ish AM and, having picked up a second job in order to buttress our gruesome finacial situation, he does not return home until well after 9 PM at least 4 nights a week. He is exhausted, I am exhausted. . . does anyone know where I am going? We get two full days to recuperate before it all begins anew, but in that time period he must cater to the kids as well as myself and the other general "things" that need to be attended to, and somebody ends up getting shafted. Lately we are both overwhelmed, depressed, stressed, edgy. And I know I can be a royal [censored].

Bitchy with the man I love, bitchy with the one I could not imagine being without, the one I adore, the one who makes me feel safe and anchored and alive.

But not for some time, and therein lies the problem.

Oh, and Sex? What's that? I read on the board a few days ago. . . I think it was JavaPrincess, mmmm, maybe not. . . who said that she spends all day wanting it and then by the time the end of the day comes she is too exhausted to do anything but fall into bed. Good grief, that could have been me typing! Does anyone else suffer from this? Can I get a Whoop Whoop?

I'm working on our problems, situational and otherwise -- but there is our history. Pretty standard fare, sans the adultery, I'd say. There have been times -- very few, albeit, but there nonetheless -- when I have considered leaving him. Not ever for anyone else. And I can honestly say I don't think he would cheat on or leave me. But then, "Them 'r famous last werds, 'ain't they?"

Oh, and yup, I'm Texan -- deep Southern by breeding but Texan by the grace of God! Yee-Haw!

GC, I hope your "event" goes well. I wish you could share it with us here, but I totally understand why you can't go into it. Just let us know if it was thumbs up or down, eh?

~SLH

SLH, I don't want to jack Gray's thread, but you need to read up on the four rules of a happy marriage.

Read up on LB's, DJ's, the love bank principle and both of you do the questionaires.

All found on this website. Very important to understand the principles and start incorporating them.

Hey, Weave, I think we've already jacked Gray's thread, LOL! Sorry Gray! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

I think Harley's books are the only reason Tiger & I are still doing so well today, tho you're right, Weave, I need to start incorporating the principles more consistently and thoroughly. I've had HNHN for 8 years, and gradually accumulated all of Harley's other books. They have kept me sane! In fact, when this web site first came online, I came here often, tho back then there was no forum, and it was only recently that I discovered that they had added one. I know this stuff, most of it inside and out, but (as everyone here has discovered I am sure) putting it into action, consistently, daily, moment-by-moment, is the difficult part. And darn it, some days my Prozac just isn't working! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

The only experience I have had with someone unfaithful was in a long-term relationship that was heading towards marriage. . . and I can, single-handedly, claim that it was I and I alone who destroyed that relationship. It doesn't compare to a marriage, but I have been there, to some degree.

I am very fortunate in that Tiger is trying to read HNHN with me, tho it is slow going with him. But as I said earlier, I am very blessed compared to many. It was only because I was able to get my hands on Harley's books early enough, before there were any threatening, monumental problems. Others, I fear, were lost before they had a chance, and that thought troubles me greatly.


~ StillLovingHim

Holy mackeral SLH, you have been at this MB stuff a long time!

Good hubby is getting on the same page with you and reading HN/HN's. That's encouraging, hey?

Okay no more threadjacking on Gray, or he might boot us out of here! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Okay ladies, that's enough shenanigans.

I went to my brother's wedding this weekend.

My brother is incredibly popular. Everybody loves him.

I met a girl. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

GC

And. . . ? ? ?

And what? Okay... Call her Annie.

I stood up in the wedding. As is the custom, the limo made a couple of stops on the way to the reception. A girl I'd never seen before, a friend of my new SIL, followed in her car and made the stops with us. I'd noticed her at the wedding. She's damned good looking (that's for you Hemingway fans). Caught her eye and heard her name, but didn't talk to her just then.

Later, during dinner, I saw her sitting with a bunch of my relatives. One of my aunts said something about "that nice girl who ate with us". I spotted her sitting by herself, so I went over, sat down, said, "Annie, let's talk," and intro'd myself.

We talked for a nice stretch, and we were hitting it off. Then the DJ put on a tune Annie likes. She jumped up, said she'd be back, and ran out to the dance floor. Just then I spotted an old acquaintance and got dragged out to the bar.

A short while later, one of my cousins came up and said Annie was looking for me, worried that I was annoyed when she ran out to the dance floor. She eventually caught up with me, and asked if I was upset over her running off. I insisted that I wasn't. She said, "I'm sorry for running away from you like that." It was real cute, the way she apologized. She touched my arm, which always seems like a good sign.

We talked for a few more minutes. I was being pulled in 15 directions, and got taken away again. I assumed I'd get another chance to talk to her, but it didn't happen.

I dig this girl. She was talkative and thoughtful. She's tall and very pretty.

Today I stopped at my SIL's parents' house. SIL and her mother were all excited about Annie and me getting together. SIL said, "I'm going to make sure you go out with her." Said, "As soon as your divorce is done I'm making it happen."

GC

Good for you Gray! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />