Hi SLH !!!

:: Please don't fire me ::

Not likely - in fact, if you resigned, I don't think we would accept it.

Thanks for your upbeat, thoughtful posts, it brings sunshine to Grayclouds threads, and that never hurts at all.

SS

Indiginous drums rolling in the distance. . . pensive inert heat and sweaty stillness. . .

Here we are, at Tribal Council . . .

Torches lit, participants wiggling in their seats . . . SS, Faithful, SLH, GC, NCW, 2long, Kimmy, Binder, Gimble Just J, Sleepless and Weaver.

"How do you vote, Still Seeking?" Jeff Probst cross examines SS. (LOL)

"It only makes sense if he was plotting. I vote against him."

SLH nods her head, while wondering if the palm frond waving behind Kimmy's head is edible. Then she snaps back to her senses. She whole-heartedly agrees. . . <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

C'Mon, Weave, let's vote that traitor OFF the island!!

Has the tribe spoken??


~ StillLovingHim

Oh my gosh, your too funny SLH! Yep the tribe has spoken.

I'm going to be okay. It is almost a relief. For several months I have been faced with this decision to make, and now I have the truth (I think). I was so afraid to post that I was thinking of going back with him. Gray knew but I didn't trust anyone else enough with my problem. I thought I would be judged. I was wrong, everyone on this board is wonderful, and on this thread - the greatest, IMO.

And yes SS, he is an expert con artist. Forth time he's (almost ?) fooled me now. I'm getting smarter.

The person I am worried about though is Gray.

Are you okay Gray? Her standing you up last night would have triggered all this past years betrayal/pain. That is what what is meant by baggage. Current hurts bring up past hurts. The mind can not tell the difference between past and present, nor can it tell the difference between real and imagined.

This is how the Russians were able to train their atheletes so well. But I digress.

Gray I agree with SS, it is important that you try and find out what happened. For your own sake.

I hope you post tonight, I'm a little worried about your emotional state.

OK, I admit it. You made me laugh.

SS

SS, I thought I might. I don't have her number (first lesson learned), but I know where she works.

The only thing holding me back was this: if she really just didn't want to have dinner with me, then approaching her will put her in a position of having to tell me, "Look dude, I'm not interested." I guess she owes me for skipping out though.

Anybody else think I should chase her down? I was going to do it today, then thought twice.

GC

IMHO, I would chalk it up to her not taking the invitation seriously. I would be embarrased to show up if I thought maybe the guy was only joking, KWIM? You may run into her again and you could lightly ask her "hey I was here, where were you" or "boy that ___I ate for dinner was delicious, sorry I missed out on the good company".

Oh and next time, Gray...get her number!

weaver votes - YES! YOU need to know, I don't care what she thinks or feels.

What about a small spring bouquet of flowers (nothing too expensive or overpowering), with a simple message,

"Sorry we missed eachother last night.
I was a few minutes late, and I'm sorry.
Think we could try again?
555-555-5555
GrayCloud."

Thoughtful, Sincere, Forthright. You could even have it delivered and not have to see her (I don't blame you on that one; I would feel the same.)

We KNOW it's not YOUR fault she wasn't there, and you were't REALLY late, but it does take the pressure off her, you know? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


~ StillLovingHim

You didn't have her number Gray? You didn't confirm by phone?

Oh good grief. Dating 101.

This guy is going to need our help. Better keep this thread going for awhile after all Gray! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

It's hard to know if they are, or not sometimes, and it is awkward when they really didn't want to meet you.

I figure if they made the date, then didn't show it's their problem if it's awkward.

There are lines that work -
Hi, would you like to talk about it, or should I leave you alone?

I bet the gals can come up with even better stuff than that.

SS

SS, I love Kipling. I have a collection of his short stories and I am forever discovering nuances in them that point to what a intriguing man he was. Thank you for sharing that poem . . I didn't know he wrote poetry at all.

PS -- Alright everybody -- No swimming in the Deep End of the Misery Pool today until I find that life belt! It's called the deep end for a reason and I don't want to get my hair wet, I just washed it, you know? So let's just splash around in the Misery Kiddie Pool for a bit. LOL I can reach just fine in there.

~ Still

I vote for SLH's suggestion.

Can you tell I am a guy?

SS

I would like this but after learning about boundaries I feel if this goes anywhere, Gray is already telling her it is okay to be irresponsible. That he will not only accept but reward her for it.

Can you tell I've been here a year now?

I like FF's suggestion of asking if she would like to talk about it. Or just asking plain out "oh HELLO, where the hell were you last night?" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Well, I guess I meant this only as an opening to find out *if* GC or even she actually had "penciled in the wrong date/time/etc", KWIM? It should be pretty obvious pretty early on if she is a flake, and then, alley-oop, overboard she goes! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Not to be mean, or anything, but life's too short to put up with any shallow, selfish women! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


~ SLH

alley-oop, oop, oop, oop, oop, oop!

I think I am going to the store to get some wine. I feel like self-medicating tonight. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Weaves asks:
Can you tell I've been here a year now?

Girl, I may have started "reading the material" earlier than you, but you seem to know this stuff backwards and forwards, far better than I. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

NO ONE will ever treat you badly again. I am really proud of you, Weaves.


~ SLH

GC:

That's why the saying DOES NOT SAY: "if you love something, set it free, and if it doesn't come back, hunt it down and kill it"

Well, this isn't that extreme a sitch, (and I had a bumper sticker once that said exactly this phrase), but you get my point.

If it were me: if the oppor2nity came up 2 ask her, then ask her. But don't go out of your way (and risk being arrested for stalking)..

-ol' 2long

Weaver,

Your over-analyzing.

Gray, if you send the bouquet make sure you KNOW she will get it.

Someone way up top had two suggestions. The first ended with "where were you". Bad. Implies she owes you some accountability and makes you look controlling.

The other line about missing a nice dinner is the winner.

Give her the opportunity to save face. Another good one would be go hunt her down and say "Sorry, I must have mixed up the restraunt (unless it was REALLY clear where that was to be) or the time or the whatever..." Give her an out. If she was really ditching you, she'll just ditch you again. And you'll know. If she wasn't, you are protecting her from the faux pas and she'll appreciate it.

A long time ago I was voted spokesman for the male population. Heed my words.

NCWalker

Naw, not me! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Don't you think though that she does owe Gray some accountability? She did make the date with him. He did invest his time, imagination in it.

Yep, I think she owes him something.

An apology!