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Road still closed to the Breaks -

PV still has visable snow.
Last year there was none visable on the south side after end of April, and this year there is a lot still in the canyons.

North side it is all over.

Wonder what is actually measured.

I am talking top of mountain, your data may be for campground?

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That surprised me. There just one station at a decent elevation in that area, at Gardner Peak. The others are near New Harmony, at White Reef, and at Long Flat.

Now that I look, the satellite shows one little patch of snow, about 1 mile on each side, with around 10-15% snow cover.

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Every time I try to write songs they wind up being about my stupid wife.
Hi GC,

First time I've ventured into your thread... a few posts in here!

I was writing songs like mad during the peak of my hurt, now that I don't hurt so much I just don't seem to have the need as much (or the desire or something?). Seems the music writing was somehow therapeutic for me and the hurt really inspired my creativity. Good thing I'm not a professional musician and then I would need to be hurt like this all the time to get my work done! Maybe its because I've been playing the electric a lot lately and find it less inspiring than the acoustic? Who friggin' knows!

I often wonder about the fine line between expressing your feelings and dwelling in them? Expressing good. Dwelling bad. But how do you tell the difference?

Take Care,

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That snow patch would probably be Whipple valley - huge meadow up top.

From down below I can see the snow under the trees near the top of the mountain all the way around. Gardner peak is mostly clear, only snow on the north side, but it is a lower peak.

The stations near New Harmony are probalby lower too. The names are not really familiar to me.

Anyway (grin) I have probably bothered you enough.

Thanks,

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Man. Mind if I pull up a log and open a cold one? I have been run out of Idiotville with all the estrogen talk. By no means a music afficianado, I can tell a joke or to at the least.

NCW sits on log, tilts back ball cap, gives head a good scratch, wipes cold one accross forehead....AAAAAHHHHH

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Hi NC,
How the heck are you?

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Man am I glad to see you NC.

Estrogen talk has driven me outa there before. The women are welcome here, but if I hear anything gynecological someone's going in the river.

So are you setting your beers on top of your head nowadays?

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Hey SS,

I am plodding along. Trying to be the best me I can be. Wondering how the next chapter of my life will be. Comfortable that it is in God's hands. I'm good. All things considered.

Gray,

No man, wiping my brow to cool it with the cold one. Haven't done a stunt like that since college. It's a campfire right? In the summer... Or don't they have summer where you live? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Yeah. Estrogen talk can get a little much. And there becomes a lack of substance over there. Can't say I'm all interested in the song lyrics, but at least there is a SUBJECT. Idiotville is now all "How are you?" "I'm fine, will pray for you.." Blah Blah Blah.

Not that prayers are bad, but that is just assumed, you know? Been some time since anything funny was going on. Miss Jelly and LemonDash.

Say hi to the band for me. I'll be in Detroit next week and also St. Louis, but that isn't close enough to see you.

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Hey guys.

I'm not up for estrogen today either. . . mind if I stick around? Maybe some of your masculinilty will wear off on me, lol.

I brought a couple of shots of Johnnie Black and some beef jerky to chew on; promise I won't get in the way if I can just pillow my head on this sleeping bag here and rest a bit. Need to poke at the fire and stare at the embers for a while tonight. Been worried about Weaver.

What's for dinner? Weed rat?

Put on some tunes somebody.


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Tunes coming up...

Wanna tell you about the girl I love
My she looks so fine
She's the only one that I been dreamin' of
Maybe someday she will be all mine
I wanna tell her that I love her so
I thrill with her every touch
I need to tell her she's the only one I really love

I got a woman, wanna ball all day
I got a woman, she won't be true, no
I got a woman, stay drunk all the time
I said I got a little woman and she won't be true

Sunday morning when we go down to church
See the menfolk standin' in line
I said they come to pray to the Lord
With my little girl, looks so fine
In the evening when the sun is sinkin' low
Everybody's with the one they love
I walk the town, Keep a-searchin' all around
Lookin' for my street corner girl

I got a woman, wanna ball all day
I got a woman, she won't be true, no no
I got a woman, stay drunk all the time
I said I got a little woman and she won't be true

In the bars, with the men who play guitars
Singin', drinkin' and rememberin' the times
My little lover does a midnight shift
She followed around all the time
I guess there's just one thing a-left for me to do
Gonna pack my bags and move on my way
Cause I got a worried mind
Sharin' what I thought was mine
Gonna leave her where the guitars play


(NCW really likes that part)

I got a woman, she won't be true, no no
I got a woman, wanna ball all day
I got a woman, stay drunk all the time
I got a little woman and she won't be true

(Hey hey what can I do)

I said she won't be true

(Hey Hey, What can I say?)

Hey hey, what can I do
I got a woman, she won't be true
Lord, hear what I say
I got a woman, wanna ball all day

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Another one I have grown fond of lately....

I would swallow my pride
I would choke on the rinds
but the lack thereof would leave me empty inside,
swallow my doubt
turn it inside out
find nothing but faith in nothing
want to put my tender heart in a blender
watch it spin around to a beautiful oblivion
rendezvous, then I'm through with you

I burn burn like a wicker cabinet
chalk white and oh so frail
I see our time has gotten stale,
the tick tock of the clock is painful
all sane and logical
I want to tear it off the wall
I hear words in clips and phrases
I think sick like ginger ale
My stomach turns and I exhale

I would swallow my pride
I would choke on the rinds
But the lack thereof would leave me empty inside,
I would swallow my doubt
turn it inside out
find nothing but faith in nothing
want to put my tender heart in a blender
watch it spin around to a beautiful oblivion
rendezvous, then I'm through with you

SoCal is where my mind states,
but it's not my state of mind
I'm not as ugly, sad as you
Or am I origami?
folded up and just pretend,
demented as the motives in your head

I would swallow my pride
I would choke on the rinds
but the lack thereof would leave me empty inside,
I would swallow my doubt
turn it inside out
find nothing but faith in nothing
want to put my tender heart in a blender
watch it spin around to a beautiful oblivion
rendezvous, then I'm through with you

I alone am the one you don't know you need
take heed, feed your ego
Make me blind when your eyes close
sink when you get close, tie me to the bedpost

I alone am the one you don't know you need
you don't know you need me.
make me blind when your eyes close, time me to the bed post

I would swallow my pride
I would choke on the rinds
but the lack thereof would leave me empty inside,
swallow my doubt
turn it inside out
find nothing but faith in nothing
want to put my tender heart in a blender
watch it spin around to a beautiful oblivion
rendezvous, then I'm through,
now I'm through with you

through with you

rendezvous then I'm through with you..."

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NC,
that next chapter was what I was wondering about. Didn't know if you had a line on it yet.

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And when I am raging inside I tend to play this one...

Now I've told you this once before
You can't control me
If you try to take me down you're gonna pay
Now I feel your every nothing that you're doing for me
I'm picking you outa me
you run away
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
You're always hiding behind your so called goddess
So what you don't think that we can see your face
Resurrected back before the final fallen
I'll never rest until I can make my own way
I'm not afraid of fading
I stand alone
Feeling your sting down inside of me
I'm not dying for it
I stand alone
Everything that I believe is fading
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
And now its my time (now its my time)
It's my time to dream (my time to dream)
Dream of the sky (dream of the sky)
Make me believe that this place isn't plagued
By the poison in me
Help me decide if my fire will burn out
Before you can breathe
Breathe into me
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
Feeling your sting down inside of me
I'm not dying for it
I stand alone
Everything that I believe is fading
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
Inside
I stand alone
Inside

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And when I feel bad for the thoughts inside me it is this...


Father of lights

You delight in your children
Father of lights

You delight in your children

Every good and perfect gift
Comes from you
Every good and perfect gift
Comes from you
Every good and perfect gift
Comes from you
Father of lights

Father of lights

You never change
You have no turning
Father of lights

You never change
You have no turning

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SS,

You want my answer now, or when I am in a GOOD mood?

NCW

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Tommy Bolin, "People, People"

"Brother, brother, help me please,
I'm as lonely as I can be.
All my friends are scaring me,
But if you forget me then I will leave.

Sister, sister, what can I do?
I'm in love with tootsie too.
Please excuse me if I am low,
But me feelings just have to show.

People, people, hold my hand.
Where in the hel is this promised land?
Float right past me, oh I like your style.
Seek it, seek it, seek it, seek it, you're here for a while.

Mother, mother, so good to me,
Praying just so I can be.
My father, my father, my only one,
I hope you're proud of this your son.

Listen to them play now...."

The lyris alone don't do that song justice. AMAZING saxaphone accompanyment. oh yeah, and a terrific Hammond organ set on "percussion"!

-ol' 2long

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cold beer ...
evening guys


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Hey KA, what brand?

Having a Foster's myself.

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When I run out of those Sierra Nevada pale ale's, I'm going 2 pick up some Stone Brewing Co.'s "Arrogant [censored] Ale" or "Ruination IPA".

I'm in that kind of mood 2day.

-ol' 2long

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Hey KA. You been doin' okay, friend?

You sounded so down on I'ville.


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