Gray sniffs, his keen olfactory nerves tingle. Somehow familiar, that smell...

Say, there's still some beer in this bottle.

GC

I keep thinking about campfires.

One of these days, (Gray) you will want to go home. You'll want a girl to be there for you. You'll want to look at her across the table, before you leave for work. You'll want to come home and have her there, waiting for you.

I know you don't want to take a long time. In some ways you are ready now. In some ways you are not.

Here's a link. Again, I am not trying to tell you what to do, or how to do it. Most of this doesn't apply, I already know that. There is a little part about being done, that may apply. You decide.
Not dating until you are done

Glad there are good parts to your life.

Thanks for the campfire, I like camping, always have.

SS

SS,

Thanks for the link. It was a bracing read. That "dipi" is a wise young lady.

-AD

If you guys and gals have a minute and are on this weekend, would you stop by sometime to say a few words to a semi-newby?

Here's his thread :
http://www.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/sho...;page=1#2735388

He's been D'ed a year and just now is tring to figure out what in the world happened and is he really so awful as his XW said etc. etc. Typical angst. Invite him over to burn some marshmellows.

Thanks,

-AD

Hey all. I'm travellin' all next. Didn't want ya to worry about me. I'll be offline. - NCW

See Ya NC,
Don't run off the road.

SS

I need a song 2long.

Things are not so good here.

as KA1 mosies back into camp....wooooohooooo....had a booty call last night at midnite

SS, you're right. I don't want to wait. I have no desire to spend my life as a self-absorbed bachelor. I know one. He's happy that way, but it's not for me.

I am ready. I have a terrible desire to put my time and energy into someone besides myself.

And it would be awful nice if some girl dug me and wanted to be nice to me.

Unfortunately, I still sting from my wife's rejection. Thinking about it makes me feel wretched. I still get that voice sometimes, saying, hey buddy, you'd have to be pretty unappealing to be rejected by your own wife. Even if everybody tells you otherwise, there has to be something wrong with you. What other explanation is there?

That's why I'm probably a little too likely to go ga-ga for the first girl who shows some interest, and it's how I'm not ready.

The rock show last night? Huh! They blew the roof off. It was all I'd hoped for. It made the hair on my arms stand up, made me walk around with a [censored]-eating grin half the time. It's the happiest I've felt since my brother's wedding. Pure joy.

GC

Ah, Shul:

I just saw your post. Probably the first I think you've sent 2 me.

I'm not as eloquent as our buddy gc here. I just know what I like... ...what I love... ...what I cry over when I hear...

Here's something from Eric Andersen, a man with an amazing voice (with some equally amazing backup vocals from Joni Mitchell) - something I can't duplicate (though I can "do" okay, and would LOVE 2 spend an evening with gc and his band. Not in public, but in private, for me. For them... For love).

...I especially love the part about "Rob", doncha know? Or doncha?:

Eric Andersen, "Blue River"

Old man go to the river
To drop his bale of woes
He could go if he wanted to
It's just a boat to row you know

listen to me now

Blue River keep right on rollin'
All along the shoreline
Keep us safe from the deep and the dark
'Cause we don't want to stray too far

Spent the day with my old dog Moe
Down an old dirt road
What he's thinking, Lord I don't know
But for him, I bet the time must go so slow
Don't you know

Blue River keep right on rollin'
All along the shoreline
Keep us safe from the deep and the dark
'Cause we don't want to stray too far

Harmonica break

Young Rob stands with his axe in hand, yeah
Believin' that the crops are in
Firewood stacked ten by ten
For the wife the folks the kids
And all of the kin... ...and a friend

listen to me now

Blue River keep right on rollin'
All along the shoreline
Keep us safe from the deep and the dark
'Cause we don't want to stray too far"

-ol' 2long

Hey, Gray, how goes the visit with your friend? Having a good weekend?

I'm glad the concert was all you had hoped. It sounded wonderful.

StillLovingHim

*edited b/c it is late and I forgot to use my nom de plume -- Duh! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

SLH, my buddy and his dad (who lives here) helped me haul a 300-pound electric organ from the 'burbs to my house. You should see this thing. It's totally beat up and sounds super cool.

Oh, oh. I'm listening to the MC5 today. This always leads to mayhem.

GC

gc:

This is the Hammond?

Next thing you know, you'll be doing remakes of old ELP 2nes!

-ol' 2long

2long,

I think he actually has The Door's more in mind.

Gray,

Do you play by ear? I need to read music until I get it down.

My DD's dad plays by ear, piano and guitar. He used to give music lessons and had to learn to read music because of course most people can't learn without it.

He tried to teach me theory once LOL what a disaster that was. I think the part of my mind which could have gotten it shut down in elementary school.

Oh and that reminds me that my piano teacher once told my mom that she thought I had more talent than the rest of her students because of the feeling I brought to the piece. And my mom said, "oh yes, that's our little Sarah Bernhart, she has LOTS of feeling". I was very emotional and dramatic, even back then. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Emerson, Lake, and Palmer, "Karn Evil 9, Third Impression"

"Man alone; born of stone;
Will stamp the dust of time
His hands strike the flame of his soul;
Ties a rope to a tree and hangs the Universe
Until the wind of laughter blows cold.

Fear that rattles in men's ears
And rears it's hideous head
Dread! .... Death! .... in the wind ....

Man of steel pray and kneel
With fever's blazing torch
Thrust in the face of the night;
Draws a blade if compassion
Kissed by countless Kings
Whose jewelled trumpet words blind his sight.

Walls that no man thought would fall
The altars of the just
Crushed! .... Dust! .... in the wind ....

No man yields who flies in my ship!
DANGER!
Let the bridge computer speak!
STRANGER!
LOAD YOUR PROGRAM! I AM YOURSELF!

No computer stands in my way!
Only blood can cancel my pain!
Guardians of a nuclear dawn!
Let the maps of war be drawn.

Rejoice! Glory is ours!
Our young men have not died in vain.
Their graves need no flowers!
The tapes have recorded their names.

I am all there is!
NEGATIVE! PRIMITIVE! LIMITED! I LET YOU LIVE!
But I gave you life!
WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DO!?
To do what was right!
I'M PERFECT! ARE YOU!??"

Good grief 2, (can I just drop the long now?) them sure are some DRAMATIC lyrics! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I read music and I know music theory. When I play something, I know what I'm playing. Our bass player writes some songs. He uses a guitar usually for writing. He comes up with lots of weird little chord fingerings combined with open strings. I worry that his heart breaks a little when I look the thing over and say, "Oh, that's a Dm7." Not so long ago we were jamming a little. As usual, it started with our bass player getting into something, then I hopped in. I was cranky that day, and I stopped them and said, "How about we jam something that isn't in E for a change?" The bassist, who by the way is very good, looked at me and said, "That wasn't in E." We investigated and found that it was. I said, "Pretty much all the jams you guys start are in E." I felt a little bad for letting that out, but it's been bugging me for a while.

I can't play piano, so I'm going to try an experiment. I'm gonna try and learn to play organ from putting Booker T CDs on and messing around without looking at the keys. I probably can't do it though. I'll still know where my fingers are.

As for what I'm "going for" with organ... the sound of an electric organ is part of the sound of ROCK to me, and it's underused in modern music.

It drives me nuts when those who call themselves musicians brag that they don't know a thing about music theory, as if to suggest that knowing music makes your music have less soul, or some silliness.

It's possible to not know a damn thing and be a decent musician, surely. It's also possible to know music very well and make antiseptic music. I find some 70s prog rock a little bit like that. But it's better, especially when you play with other people, if you can actually speak the same language about what you're doing. I'm frustrated by this problem with my band all the time.

Was that a diatribe? Sorry. I've been painting all day and I'm a little talkative.

GC

GC, that's pretty funny, actually. A lot of bass players, by default, tend to wander over naturally to E as the root... sorta makes sense in a way.
I was just thinking about that yesterday... as I re-train myself after 12+ years of non-playing... I said to myself "geesh! c'mon! ya gotta do something other than E all the time!"

Have fun with the Hammond... I remember moving one... once!

Was that a diatribe?

You bet your sweet bippie it was! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

But an interesting one!

-ol' 2long