And finally, this one is for Kimmy, because she is one of the kindest, most generous, and sweetest women I have ever had the pleasure of knowing (and this song 'minds me of you Kimmy) -



Lyrics for: He Ain't Heavy, He's My Brother

HE AIN'T HEAVY HE'S MY BROTHER

The road is long
with a many a winding turns
that leads us to who knows where,
who knows where.
But I'm strong,
strong enough to carry him.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.


So on we go.
His welfare is of my concern.
No burden is he to bear,
we'll get there.
For I know
he would not encumber me.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

If I'm laden at all,
I'm laden with sadness
that everyone's heart
isn't filled with the gladness
of love for one another.

It's a long, long road
from which there is no return.
While we're on the way to there,
why not share?
And the load
doesn't weigh me down at all.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother.

He's my brother.
He ain't heavy, he's my brother...



Posted by: DJ - Oklahoma City, OK

I sing Suzanne passably well. That was a song frequently heard at my house when I was growing up.

I grew up in a house where people broke into song just because their hearts told them to.

Suzanne is one of my favorites....off of Judy Collins favorite hits album (yeah...those round black thingys made out of vinyl...). It's after Fairwell to Tairwathe on that round.

- Kimmy

weaver:

I used 2 sing that song and play the guit-fiddle when I was but a child. No, my W's not named Suzanne.

I like Leonard Cohen stuff. Found this one a while back. it's funny, though. I love the lyrics, but didn't like the song when I heard it:

Leonard Cohen, "Humbled in Love"

"Do you remember all of those pledges
That we pledged in the passionate night
Ah they're soiled now, they're torn at the edges
Like moths on a still yellow light
No penance serves to renew them
No massive transfusions of trust
Why not even revenge can undo them
So twisted these vows and so crushed

And you say you've been humbled in love
Cut down in your love
Forced to kneel in the mud next to me
Ah but why so bitterly turn from the one
Who kneels there as deeply as thee

Children have taken these pledges
They have ferried them out of the past
Oh beyond all the graves and the hedges
Where love must go hiding at last
And here where there is no description
Oh here in the moment at hand
No sinner need rise up forgiven
No victim need limp to the stand

And you say you've been humbled in love...

And look dear heart, look at the virgin how she welcomes him into her gown
Yes, and mark how the stranger's cold armour
Dissolves like a star falling down
Why trade this vision for desire
When you may have them both
You will never see a man this naked
I will never hold a woman this close

And you say you've been humbled in love..."

-ol' 2long

I'm going to have to download, haven't heard it.

Huge Cohen fan here, even if some say he is the most depressing musician alive.

His lyrics are incredible.

Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin
Dance me through the panic 'til I'm gathered safely in
Lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love
Oh let me see your beauty when the witnesses are gone
Let me feel you moving like they do in Babylon
Show me slowly what I only know the limits of
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love

Dance me to the wedding now, dance me on and on
Dance me very tenderly and dance me very long
We're both of us beneath our love, we're both of us above
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love

Dance me to the children who are asking to be born
Dance me through the curtains that our kisses have outworn
Raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn
Dance me to the end of love

Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin
Dance me through the panic till I'm gathered safely in
Touch me with your naked hand or touch me with your glove
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love


Okay. I'm weeping. Why does the love of chidren not your own make you ache so? I WANT them to me mine.

In a JUST world DNA would come back blood of my body. It would.

- Kimmy

I thought you guys were suing for custody? I would bet that before too long they will be back with you. Doesn't sound like she will hang on to them for too much longer. On a downward spiral she is.

BTW, I love that Cohen song.

>too long they

Too long, dearest Weaver (like Charlotte). It takes so much TIME. Not that it's not time well spent...but so much time it's dishheartening.

Kimster, I wish I knew what to say, but I don't beyond I am so sorry. I wish I could be there with you to hold you and cry with you, dearest.

I do agree that the Donor doesn't have it in her to hang on to those babies much longer than she has to. Are you & Wookie looking into PIs and such for evidence to use against her if necessary?

Everybody out there knows those darlings would be better with you guys. I just wish the proper authorities would agree.

love and prayers, K.

M

SS, yes they came back safe and dirty, LOL My H was grumpy from being tired. Just waiting patiently he seems withdrawn, could just be from being tired.

I am so glad you and Mrs. SS had a good date. You two have something really beautiful going, I see it in your posts.

Kimmy, so very sorry for your pain. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Love you loads, KIMMY!!!

I know ya'll do, Faith.

They are GOOD kids. All babies are good kids. I worry for them almost more than the ones I birthed, just because they deserve what I could give them but they were denied.

{{{KIMMY}}

I'm sorry Kimmy... how can such a sudden turn of events be permanent?

GC

>events be permanent?


If it's any consolation...I put no money on any permanancy anymore. My condolence is that he cannot do this. He does love those babies at least as much as I do. I've seen it. They have him wrapped around their little fingers (and they are very cutetly petite teeny digits).

I live by, "Resistance is futile," which, I think, was written by irrestable infants.

I think I'm having a get-together with car4love. I'm oddly freaked about it. It creates a proximity to the APs in a way, and that makes the encounter feel perilous.

For a long time, we talked or emailed on a daily basis. In a strange way, she gave me a connection to my wife, I suppose because we talked about the APs' shenanigans.

Now, I sense the same connection, and I don't want it. But it's not fair for me to associate car4love so fully with the horrors of the last year, so probably getting over my hesitation is a good idea.

I just hope that the things I hear don't make me too depressed. I expect we'll keep talk of the APs to a minimum.

GC

By the way, given the perspective of a few weeks, which is not long, but it's a start...

Anyone remember that fierce email I sent the STBX?

That was a good move.

GC

Was there results? Tell car4love she has a whole campfire full of fans here.

I'm so glad it was a good move. I had no idea that you had never really had the opportunity to share with her how you felt.

Everyone needs that.

I was wondering, G, isn't your anniversary coming up? (I remember because I think yours was near mine) I don't mean to broadside you by mentioning it, but I did want you to be prepared. What will you do, that day? Make plans now, hun, so you won't be assaulted with depression or feelings of being overwhelmed on the day of. Maybe a nice dinner with good friends, or an evening of playing music with your band, anything but sitting at home alone, unless you've got some issues to work thru that can best be tackled in the dark, by yourself.

And even then, I would hope you would keep us updated.


slh

Kimmy, how are you today?

I dreamed of you last night.

Not of any direct answer to your problems, but of your laughter, and your happiness and your babies. I cannot believe that this situation is yet finished.

slh

SLH, really........set a date, discuss it with tiger. Pick a place that both of you want to see. Some of the trips we did were just camping trips, because we had no money. Once you have the date, and the place, all the other stuff start to work it self out.

"Tiger, is this weekend, or this other weekend (SLH points to two different dates in Sept) best for going on our 2nd honeymoon trip?"

It can be fun, I promise.

Ready for some whining, SS? If not, I promise not to be upset. I PROMISE! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

2nd Honeymoon Trip? ROFLOL. We never even had a FIRST Honeymoon Trip! No wonder I am so starved for some time for my H, and am willing to move his parents in with us to get it! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

And for those crazy folk who will say, Why on earth did slh have so many children if she couldn't handle them? I say to you, well, I DO love my kiddos, first of all, but let's also say. . . uhmmm. . . if you wave the bedsheets around me I get preggers, 'kay? Which is why, as my DD10 now says, "My Daddy is fixed." LOL. NOTHING else works, we've tried it! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Let me tell you what happened last year, SS. I knew our 10 year anniversary was coming up, and since we had never really had a first honeymoon, I wanted to do something special. I saved up enough money doing odds and ends for a down payment on an all-inclusive resort and scheduled family in another state to watch our kiddos for that particular week (8 months later). I lost those last few lingering pounds, went to the gym every day, and continued to pay on the resort little-by-little for the next 8 months. We even made an appt with a minister to renew our vows on the beach -- my dream, as we had previously been married by a JOP. Ti knew about it all and was excited (so he said).

But when push came to shove, the month before, Ti bailed. No time, not enough money to finish paying (it turned out he hadn't bothered paying anything at all, as I thought he had), etc. Luckily we were able to get some of our money back, but not all. And I fell into a depression where even when I tried to make things nice for us, I still couldn't.

I think that's when I started losing it as the "perfect" wife, not trying anymore, saying "why the heck bother?", and began doing more things with friends. When I felt, however, that many of my needs were being met *there*, by *them* (and some of them are male, yes) is when I high-tailed it to MB. I'd been a fan of Harley's books for years but there had never been a forum on his site when I had checked before -- what a blessing!

In the end, I guess it wasn't meant to be, anyway. The family that was supposed to watch the kiddos that week came down reeeealllly sick, Ti was shipped off to Huntsville, Ala for NASA junk (vacation? what vacation?) and the resort suffered a series of Hurricane attacks. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Soooooo. . . in the event you have no family within 300 miles, no neighbors that you'd really want to leave your 3, 5 and 10 year olds with, no friendly (but suicidal) fellow church friends, and no $ for babysitters, would dragging them along on a camping trip to the beach be considered a date?

Did you bring your kiddos?

Ah, romance, whither hast thou gone?

LOL.


slh

ss, are you aroung?