Yes believer I have a lot of questions for the Derm. I feel there would be danger having SF with H. I was reading all the scriptures of Lev 13, it talks of all the different skin diseases, what ones are infectuous, or not. What ones are clean what ones are unclean. It was very interesting.
I started getting a revelation of the meaning of clean and unclean.

Also the prostitute of Prov. 7:22-23 which talks of the man being lured to a prostitute having syphillis (which attacks the liver in it's late stages). This is what it says...
"Immediately he went after her as an ox goes to the slaughter,
Or as a fool to the correction of the stocks,
Till an arrow struck his liver.
As a bird hastens to the snare,
He did not know it would cost his life.


And I remember 2 months ago my pastor told my H, next time he does it, it may cost him his very life.

Did the doctor give your husband a prescription for Aldara? It's a topical cream used to treat HPV warts and basically makes them disappear. The drug is in a new class of drugs called immune response modifiers.

No..the Dr. didn't give him a prescription for anything yet. He has been refered to a Derm. to see next Monday.

Update.....

Went to the health clinic with H today. H had to get his 2nd HIV test, and syphillis test. The nurse took a look at him and said "Those look like warts". So that is the second professional that has said that. And there was a spot she looked at that we didn't see last week, there are 3 more, for a total of 6 now.

Now what concerns me is today I was reading about genital cancers can be caused by HPV. And they can be caused UV rays from sunbeds. My husband tans 3 times a week and has been doing so for about 1 1/2 yrs straight. But would a genital cancer from UV rays look the same as a wart?

Lady

Warts have a very distinctive look. They have little cauliflower like heads on them. Wait until he gets more testing to find out the exact sub-type.

And quit looking on the computer. I did yesterday, and some of those pictures were gross!

Keep in mind that untreated warts are very contagious. I would be sure your husband uses his own towel and washes his hands often.

Thought I would bump this to the top, instead of threadjacking other posters.

Apart from the usual STD's, and AIDS, there are many other diseases that are sexually transmitted.

I work with a young man who is dying from multiple myeloma. His doc asked him if he ever had sex with a prostitute.

I had a surprise this week. I guess it can be considered a Christmas present from my WS. I've been receiving copies of doctor and lab bills as my WH is still on my medical insurance. They total more than $3,000. in a 3 week period.
Since I had the dubious opportunity to share his seminal fluid with OW and whoever else she rutted with, I was curious.

I talked to his sis, and was informed that he has been diagnosed with Reiter's syndrome. I never heard of it, so googled it. It is a type of arthritis that is sexually transmitted.

Luckily, it ONLY causes arthritis, little sores in the mouth and conjuntivitis. It doesn't kill you. But if I end up having it, it can be passed to any future partners.

Yes, this is a disease that should be diagnosed more often than it is. It isn't simply for the fact that many MD's "miss it" or don't even really know about it.

It isn't terminal, but it does have some nasty sequale and the arthritis that develops can be debilitating in some circumstances.

I know a chap who got this, and had to take disability becasue of the arthritis that developed (or maybe he was also embellishing a little) to get on disability.. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Lem

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Well LM, I'm still kind of reeling from this one. I DO have some kind of arthritis, and also have had two episodes of conjunctitis in the last several months. Also I had tiny blisters on the back of my mouth, that went away, so I didn't have them checked.

I have an appointment this week to get tested.

You have probably noticed that I'm in no mood to discuss the WH's "emotional needs" that lead to them exposing the faithful partner to who knows what disease.

Yeah, Beliver I am sorry. I had noticed. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

Knowledge is power.

You get tested and then you deal with the result and go from there. That is all you can do.

I should warn you though, searching the internet for this or any disease symptoms will drive you crazy.

You'll start thinking you have all of the symptoms that they note you may have. The mind is a powerful thing.

When I was a medical student, I once convinced myself that I had Lou Gehrigs disease. I had these muscle twitches and in my new found knoweldge, believed that I had developed a demyelinating muscle disorder..."ALS". I searched the entire library for information on this disease, and as I read more, and learned more, I became even more convinced I had the disease. There was NO WAY I didn't... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I drove myself and family and friends nuts with this.....

Turns out.....it was stress from preparing for the boards (and drinking 2 pots of coffee daily)... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

The mind is a very very powerful thing girl.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

My friend at work has had a bone marrow transplant that seems to have helped. The doctors still say he will die before long - maybe when he is 31.

He never was with a prostitute. However his wife and he are now divorced because she was unfaithful.

I'm so sorry, B. I was just going to ask you how long it would take to find out. Let us know when you get the results.

{{{{{Believer}}}}}

Thanks LM. I will count myself lucky if I don't have it. Of course I will let the docs decide. I only googled it because I had never heard of it before. But I wasn't surprised that it was sexually transmitted.

WH has been dealing with it for about 2 months. He hasn't been able to walk, because his knee was all swollen up. He just found out this week. I don't know if he knows that it is sexually transmitted. If he doesn't, I'll be sure to tell him.

When I got angry at him for not using a condom with OW and still having almost daily sex with me (before I knew there was an affair), he told me that OW was not the "type" to have an STD. Well, at least she didn't have "I'm HIV positive" tatooed on her forehead.

Neak - I have talked to my doc. There is some kind of chromosome test for it. What that has to do with anything, I have no idea.

Yes, Believer...this is the exact reason why I get so riled up with this subject, and even more riled up with the comments that were made on the other thread.

Too many people still have the naive belief that "it won't happen to me"....that is, untill it does.

Then they are blasted with the dead reality of this.

I am sure that my persistent discussion of this topic makes many uncomfortable....they probably would feel better if we all just IGNORED (like is done in other places here) the subject, and just "hoped" that it won't happen to us.

Can't do that....I feel too much of a duty to empower people and give them the knowledge about this and WARN them of the risk. And then warn them again.

I got an email the other day from a Betrayed Spouse (whom I don't even ever remember posting here) who was confused with my advice, because she felt that NOT giving her Wayward Husband open Sex was going to ruin her chances of getting him back from the other woman, who was giving him EVERYTHING on the sexual front. She didn't like my advice and told me her WH did not "like me" for putting these dumb ideas in her head... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> I had to chuckle honestly.

That is sad, but there comes a time when one has to make a decision and live with the consequences. There is an easy answer to all of this...but when I think about it...probably JUST EASY FOR ME... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Sad, if you ask me.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hi Believer, thanks for bringing this thread back up.
I will bring you up to date on what happened with my H at the Derm. office last week.

I am not thrilled at what happened at the Derm's office. I did not go with him because I had our 3 yrs old, and did not want to take him with us to such an appt.

First thing he did not see the Dermatologist (he was on vacation or something), he saw a NP
(Nurse Practicioner). He did not like her, said she was flat, rude etc... I guess he felt she should be nice to him. She diagnosed H with GW, and gave him scripts for 2 different topical meds(one for his genital area, and one for his rectum, yes... they are on rectum too).
I don't think a NP can shave and test GW, that is why it was not done.

His next appt. is around Jan 11... I think. He called and said he would only like to see the Dr. only on his next appt.
Hopefully testing will still be possible then.

H also brought me a printout on GW given by the NP.


This printout says everything contrary to what I have been reading and told from other professionals....That genital warts are sexually transmitted only.

It says quote....By Robert Brodell M.D.(not H Dermatologist)
Genital warts are known to be sexually transmited, but warts can be spread to the genitals from other parts of the body and through nonsexual contact Dr. Brodel noted. The presence of genital warts does not mean the patient has been sexually active or, in the case of perianal wart in men, has had homosexual experiences.
Condylomata (Genital Warts) and HPV infection gave been linked to increased risk of malignant neoplasms of the cervix, vulva, vagina, perineum and penis. Certain HPV strains --types 16 and 18--are linked with highter risks of neoplasm than others.

The rest of the printout just explains about the different treatment options and a survey.

I went to Robert Brodell's website, and looked up the definition of Genital Warts...He has a medical glossary there.

Genital Warts- A growth on the skin on or around the vagina, penis or anus, transmitted by sexual contact, can cause cancer of the cervix.

Okay...So Dr. Brodells info in the printout is contrary to the definition. Is he trying to confuse me?

Lady

Well, LM, you and I can discuss this all day, I guess.

People don't want to think about it.

The whole MB thing is to win the infidel back with a good Plan A, meeting their needs. SF is usually high on the list. The OP is meeting them and now the BS is encouraged to meet them.

After the shock of D-day, I jumped on the band wagon. I never gave too much thought to STD's. Afterall, we're trying to save a marriage here.

I posted a lot to Ron. In April when his wife died from AIDS, I went back and read all of my posts to him, hoping that I hadn't told him to have SF. I was TERRIFIED that I might have told him to go ahead, and "win" his wife back.

I think that is what made me start posting about STD's. The Harley's are strangely quiet on the whole subject, and as you can see, so is most everyone else.

Believer, I am sorry to hear of your concerns. I pray you don't have what you think you might have.

My hysterectomy surgery has been postponed now, due to my chest pain.
Even though EKG, and Chest exray came out normal. Dr. chaulked it up to anxiety (My H being the biggest cause of that). But my OBGYN wants a Medical Clearance done on me now. I'm still having chest pain off and on. New surgery date Feb 22nd if everything clears.

LemonMan.... I think BS's are CRAZY to go back into SF with a WS without getting checked for STD's first. I slipped once with H while waiting results, and I'm reaping the worries now. H 2nd HIV result will be back in about a week, if it's neg, then I am neg. Let's pray it's neg.

Lady

Lady - Praying that it is negative.

Well, LM, I checked back to the first of this post. There have been 16 people replying to it. Over 1300 have read it, so I think I'll be happy with that.

It is a subject that no one really wants to think or talk about, especially in the midst of meeting the infidel's "needs".

Yeah, that's ok Believer....the message is spreading. The silence and lack of posts speaks volumes. If even ONE STD case is aborted because of this thread, then this is a smashing success.

The only thing we can do is keep "spreading" (pun intended <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />) the word. Remind people of the consequences of having SF with a Wayward who has practiced high risk behavior.

People here are adults, in the end they themselves have NOONE else to blame if they get an STD. The devestation of finding out your spouse has cheated is all consuming, and many may not be able to "think" about consequences of their actions.....that is why this message is so important.

It is no doubt seen as anti-marriage building by some (got the emails to prove it <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />), but so what? We should NOT let this "die".

This will eventually be put on the web site Q/A portion. We need to remain a royal pain in the A$$ untill done so.

Goodjob bumping this thread.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Lady:

The chance that your WH 2nd HIV test is negative is extremely high. Don't waste a second worrying about it now. You have done the responsible thing. Statistically speaking, his and your 2nd test will likely be OK. Prayers being sent anyway.

Your bigger issue is getting your hysterectomy done. The chest pain you are having is likely 100% stress derived and related to anxiety rather than coronary artery disease. The problem is, any surgeon now sees "chest pain" in your chart, and he starts seeing potential complications and potential letters written by people with ESQ after their name.

Get "cleared" and get this surgery over with so you can move on with your life.

Lem <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />