Lady,
I still have no proof and no admittance of a physical affair. According to the docs my spouse could have had this over 17 years ago before we met.

If she can find a doc willing to do it or a clinic then yes she can have him take the test

Hi all
H was with the OW from March till June. Thought it was a long distance thing so SF was not very often. Funny when he went to the dr. they told him that if he didnt have symptoms not to do the test. (i think there is a blood test) They really didnt want to test him for more than HIV because he had no symptoms. STUPID. So he was never tested. The NP told me that herpes is very easy to catch....they had a girl in who was a virgin and contracted it. It has been so long now that who gave it to who is useless, but i was wondering if he could have it and never get symptoms. And if it was possible for him NOT to have it even thought we have been having SF for many years....does this make sense.

Not everyone exposed to HSV contract the dz, at least, they don't always develop Sx. My W has had HSV I "oral" ever since she was a child, through all of our contact I've never developed any lesions. Again it depends heavily on one's immune system.

LS, take comfort in the fact that the dz's that can transmit despite a condom protection are usually nothing life threating, usually just a nuisence to live with. If you're committed to working out the relationship and let say the dz is HSV, I would simply assume that you're gonna be exposed but not necessarily develop it, and avoid intimacy when there is active lesion (this will reduce tx risk)o/w nothing else more to do to protect against it, it's not worth the headache of worrying about it all the time... Just like me.

If the dz is HPV and you're gonna have a Hysterectomy anyways, I would take out the cervix to reduce your risk of complication from HPV.

As far as HIV, it is harder than most people think to transmit the dz. Especially for a guy from a girl. First the woman has to have high viral load at the time of contact for enough of the virus to survive in the secretions and since the guy usually does not receive large amount of secretions (it is the otherway around) the guy's chance of actually contracting the dz is relatively lower than most people imagine. I know people who have been stuck with HIV infected needles or sprayed by bodyfluids of high viral load individuals into their eyes and do not contract the dz. So try not to worry too much...

Oh...I wonder if it is possible that virus might have spread more easily and caused the outbreaks for you if sex was occuring into a broken area of your skin, even a rash or something. I wonder if that may have been what happened in your case. That is the only thing I could think of as a reason he doesn't show the manifestation of an outbreak and you do. Or that your immunity system is lower than his. I wonder if you built up you immunity system that might help with fewer to no breakouts.

Lady

Okay all of your with STD's and possibly me now...

I hope Dr. LemonMan isn't watching... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I wrote earlier in a post that my H had Hep C for many years. An uncurable disease. They now have tradition med, Pegintron, and interferon to try and heal it, but usually does not work. 50/50 chance. This med my H could not take because he became very ill taking it after 6 wks. It consists of a shot once a week for a year, and pills every day, it's like chemo, only through shot. He contracted Hep C many many years ago through IV drug use (I do hear it can be contracted through sex too, but not usually, usually only blood contact).

My H is now cured of Hep C btw. It's been Eradicated. Lemonman doesn't believe me, but I can send all the paperwork showing it is eradicated if he would like. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

This is what I did, plus alot prayers. Being that I am a studier of herbs, not an herbalist. I decided to give him Pau d' Arco. And H is now healed of it.

This is the description out of my wonderful book by Louise Tenney M.H. (Master Herbalist), Todays Herbal Health.

Pau d'arco, also known as taheebo, is an herb grown in South America. it is a powerful antibiotic with virus-killing properties. Its compounds seem to attack the very cause of disease. It is said that one of this herbs main actions is to put the body into a defensive posture, giving the energy needed to resist disease. Pau d'arco has been used on cancer patients in some hospitals in South America with great success. It contains a high amount of iron which aids in the proper assimilation of nutrients and the elimination of wastes.

Its Primary Applications....

Blood Purifier
Pain (relieves)
Cancer (all types)
Skin Cancer


Secondary Applications....

Anemia
Asthma
Colitis
Diabetes
Eyelids (paralysis)
Gastritis
Hemorrhages
Hodgkin's disease
Leukemia
Lupus
Osteomyelitis
Polyps
Psoriasis
Spleen infections
Ulcers
Arteriosclerosis
Bronchitis
Cystitis
Eczema
Fistulas
Gonorrea
Hernias
Infections
Liver ailments
Nephritis
Parkinson's disease
Prostatitis
Rheumatism
Syphillis
Varicose ulcers

I believe God used this herb to heal my H of Hep C. And it looks like it can/could heal many STD's. I am going to try this on my H again for HPV/GW. It is best to get this herb in it's true form, not capsule, or tablets. It can be found at many Health Food Stores. Fortunately we have a Health food store here that sells it in it's whole form, but some may only sell it in capsules. It is then made into a tea. Not a bad taste either. And mixed with honey.

I am wondering if this would heal many of you out there.

If you would like to try it let me know, and I will tell you how to measure and cook it up.


Lady

I'll try it, but please don't let LM know.

Okay, I won't tell him.

Seem like LM is here sporadically. In his absence I'm happy to fill in as the house MD here on any related issues.
Someone suggested starting a thread on health and STD, if that does take place I'm also happy to contribute...

I think LM posts mainly while he is on call, and waiting around.

Thanks for your help on all of this stuff. I think it is an area that is overlooked on this board. No one wants to think about this stuff.

Thanks to LadySheep also. I know it was hard to post about this, but I'm encouraged by all of the people reading this thread (although maybe not posting). Last night it was 1300 and today it was 1800.

I didn't know you were an MD until recently. I'm so glad you are here stu. It's great, now we have 2 in house MD's. Your wisdom and knowledge is very much appreciated. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I just can't talk herbs in front of LM, he gets all uptight. I hope your not the same way.

Lady

I'm quite open about it, my philosophy is if it works and make the pt feel better then the outcome is more important than the academics.

Stu
I was wondering something. Are my kids at risk if lets say my spouse and I have intercourse, and later in the night one of our kiddos has a bad dream and climb into bed with us. Or do they have to actually touch the area skin to skin?

I think that LM doesn't want folks to try natural remedies instead of accepted therapy.

LadySheep -
I do hope your husband is cured. My son's girlfriend's dad died at 35 of Hep-C. He did the interferon thing and some other drug. Then he got so bad that he had a liver transplant. But the disease came back in his new liver. It was very sad.

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That is very sad Believer. That his disease went that far.
The disease probably came back to his new liver because the Hep C was still in his blood, therefore making it's way to his new liver. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

The Pau d' Arco wipes the virus out of the blood and the body, therefore it can no longer infect the liver.

My H is healed. After the Pau d' arco, the first test showed he had no viral load (his priors to this was about 25,000), he still had to do a year of tests to make sure it was gone. All tests every 3 months came back neg. No more Hep C. And written as "eradicated" All of his Dr's were amazed, and so am I.

Prior to the healing, he had Hep C for 20 yrs, a fatty liver, but it had not yet turned to cirosis thankfully.

Lady

Depending on the dz you're talking about, but most of your STD's that you're talking about are probably gonna be in the area that is covered by clothing and in any case, intact skin of the body eg. legs, feet and arms are not really susceptible to most diseases. Your kids are fairly safe...

LS,
I'm not a hepatologist but I know a fair amount about hepatitis, esp Hep B. Hepatitis can certainly be suppressed by your immune system most people exposed to Hep B are in this category. They are considered eradicated and immune from the dz, but the key word is "suppressed". But this is much more rare for Hep C and if your H is considered eradicated I would still recommend periodic testing (semiannual/annual) of the LFT's and RNA load to make sure that it stays dormant. I don't know what his GI/hepatologist says...

Stu, I just talked to him, and yes he does have the annual tests done now as well by his GI. He said he just had his first annual done not long ago, and still eradicated. Dr. said he has a normal liver <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Lady

Great, can't ask for anymore than that...

Yes...I know Stu, I thought it was 25 yrs he had had Hep C, but he corrected me and said it was 20 yrs. That's an aweful long time to have lived with it, and thankfully it didn't turn to cirosis, it may have been harder to heal that way. We have a nurse friend who got Hep C while on her job, she got stuck with a needle by accident by an infected person. She went through the Pegintron treatment for 1 yr, but it didn't work. She has cirosis now.

Lady