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Still,

I share these with you, unedited, so that you can see something. I wrote these lists the year my divorce was in process but not yet final. I came a LONG, LONG way...and I'll bet if you wrote similar lists you'd find that you have too! And it is a good reminder to read over these lists every once-in-a-while when you feel like you're stuck and haven't done anything. You'll see that like I have, you have made a WORLD of change and a LOT of progress personally.

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CJ,

Just one word - WOW!


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CJ,

Thanks for the lists... I really need to work on one or two or three. I'll have to reread yours again and again.

Bugs thanks for the bump on that thread I'll check it out...if I can stay awake tonight,

Well DD softball team is going to the "ship" as they say. (The boys also made it to the states). Just got back from a parade through town with fire engines and everything. It's amazing the people that were out on the street waving at this time of night. Didn't think the girls were going to pull it off, we were losing until the 6th inning where we tied it up and then won it in the 7th. Now I just need to get Saturday off.

WH was at game...he called me just a couple of minutes ago because DD didn't say goodbye to him before she left. I told him don't give up. He said give up he's almost beaten down. I think my Wh is hitting bottom.

Tomorrow is my list making day if not to busy at work,

All in all today has been a great day.... both teams are headed for the state championships and I didn't have to go to court this morning.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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Congrats all around!

Get some sleep!


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Just got back from IC and she gave me some homework.

I need to make a list for me on what WH has to show me that he is really ready to work on our M.
So another list to work on... (lol)

Still haven't heard a word from WH... trying to be "still" and have patience. Maybe God is giving me lessons in patience.

Still


BW me 46
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Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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Good Morning Still!

I think you are also working on perseverance....like E said on my thread...actually we all are here!

"Don't be impatient for the Lord to Act!" Psalms 37:34

That has stuck with me since the day I read it...I can't get it out of my mind...I share it with you...to give you a tool to help you to stay still....

I know, not easy...but you've been doing a wonderful job!!!

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Morning Rin,

What a great quote. I will write that one down and carry it with me.

I find I am a very impatient person. My IC laughed when I said that. She said I don't know of anyone who would still consider working on your M after all this time. She told me I impress her. Maybe I should be wearing a white strait jacket and be going to the funny farm <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />

Rin, I'm keeping you in my thoughts... and I may give you a call soon.

Still


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3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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LMAO...no jackets required!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> but there is a beautiful place in Louisiana that I may be able to get a room for you should you need it... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

Well, thank you for thinking about me and if you don't get around to it soon I understand...life gets in the way! LMAO

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Am picturing Still, Rin and Bugs,,,,,,,Sittin on the dock of a bay watching the tide roll away!

Just chillin'.

Bein patient

Trusting in God and dangling our feet in the water.


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Bugs,

Going to carry that picture in my head today....all of us in our goddess jeans rolled up and tank tops... just bein.

Love it.

Still


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3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
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Still, I have attached emails that PWC sent me after our false recovery (1st mail) and On May 5th, 2007--the first day of our mission toward recovery. Just wanted you to have insight into what MY WH was thinking during all of this time. I have other emails, but these were most recent and telling...


March '05 (post false recovery #2)
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I just wanted to take a minute to say that I'm sorry for everything. I have a lot of work to do on myself, I know, and I want you to know that I'm trying to figure out the most effective ways to communicate with DS in this trying time and find some help (and perhaps some meds) for myself. I realize that telling DS that I'm a jerk (true or not) was not a smart thing to do...I was doing a lot of thinking-out-loud that day with him and that was something that he picked up on. I know sorry isn't enough, but you deserve at least that. --PWC



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I want my family back. It's taken me some time (too long, I know) to make this move, but you already know that I have regretted leaving from day one and it's taken me some time to do what it takes to be able to say the things I've been wanting to say. I'm just putting incohesive thoughts down now, but I promise to get to a point eventually. I won't make any excuses or justifications for my behavior because my actions are inexcusable. I know that MB thinks it doesn't matter what the reason for reconciliation is, be it financial or otherwise, but it matters to me. I'm not insinuating that MB is wrong, but I believe that my reasons for the attempt have to be far greater given my offenses. Yes it's true that I want my house back and that I am struggling financially, but the life, the family is what I want--it's what keeps me going. I am continuing to be selfish, but this is a good selfish.
Initially, I put much of the blame on you for my unhappiness and you acknowledged your role in my waywardness. I sought someone else to meet the needs that I felt were neglected in our relationship--initially. But, once you were willing to take responsibility for your role and make an effort to modify those behaviors, you were exhonerated of any possible responsibility, leaving me bearing the weight of my own poor decisions. Perhaps it was easier to blame you and DS than to admit that I had problems, but I was still of the belief that I didn't have any emotional issues--that nothing in my past had any impact on my emotional state whatsoever. I was wrong. All of my emotional influences in my life as a youngster were such that emotions weren't spoken of out loud--there's nothing wrong, even if there was. My mother was really the only person that I ever saw emotional, but she always seemed a bit over-emotive, almost unstable, then she allowed those things to morph into alcoholism. And then there's my brother, wayward alcoholic, or perhaps alcoholic wayward. 2 out of 3 siblings with an alcohol problem--a little ironic considering they came from parents who never showed much of an interest in the drinks. Anyway, with a proven history of alcoholism, I have to observe my own habits closely and question how much my embibements are recreational versus behavioral--I realize that--but that's enough psycho-babble for now. Back to us. I'm proud of you for realizing your true value. I know it's easy to allow your self-worth to go down the toilet in this sitch, but you have nurtured your esteem and fortified your value regardless of the influence of my rejection. That's something that I admire and want for myself. I admit to my depression, my weakness. This is going to be hard, I know, and it continually amazes me that you still keep an 'ember' for us, when most would've said '****** OFF' by now, as I'm sure most of your friends/family have already stated. I'm sure a large part of that is your passion to keep it together for DS best interests, but I also know that you have kept close the memories of what used to be with us. I have to thank [insert higher power here] for DS, or perhaps DS is the higher power. DS is the thread in our patchwork quilt of a life.
Well, I guess I am getting ahead of myself. This is assuming at this point that you'll give me a chance to try again. No more false recoveries. I think of where we would be now if I had stayed and it kills me. It kills me to witness the effect it's having on DS...I can only imagine what that's been like for you. I don't get enough time with him. I don't want to miss out on his life and what could be for us. I want a chance to make it right because I don't want this fate for us. Because I don't want to get divorced. Because I love you. Because I love my family. Can we talk? Yours,PWC


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Silent,

Thank-you for sharing that with me. I'm hoping and praying that this is all starting to sink in with my WH.

I hope someday to recieve such a letter from WH. I still think he has a long way to go to get to thet point.

Unfortunately I can't help him get there, he has to do it on his own.

My IC said something interesting that I was just thinking about. That maybe WH is testing me... testing me to see if I am really willing to forgive him. If I am really still there. I don't know about that....it's just I feel in my gut that everything is going to be okay. That I am goign to be okay.

Of course I'm anxious to find out the reasons that he had 2nd thoughts but I have to wait until he's ready to share that with me. And he may never share that with me.

I guess I'm not making much sense tonight.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
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Went to mass this morning... since I'm working the weekend and won't be able to go.

After mass I went over to talk to a sister that used to be a secretary for my kids' elementary school. She asked me how I was doing. There was another sister with her and I had mentioned it's taken 9 months but I'm finally okay with whatever God sends me. The other sister said it takes 9 months to give birth to a child... this is a new life in the making. What a wonderful way to look at things. Although I have to say this "pregnancy" is one of the most painful I have ever experienced.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
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Just got my appt with Steve... next Wednsday at 9:30 CT.


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3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
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Cool!

I did a Lot of preparation for my call w/him

Do a basic timeline of events. Make a list of questions you want to ask.
(I know, another LIST!)
Have them in front of you and take lots of notes!


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Thanks Bugs,

I may check with you later what type of questions you had in mind.... right now my mind is blank.

I think right now I reall y want to figure a way to encourage my WH to talk to Steve.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
Filed 10/18/06 still seeing MOW
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I don’t know why I’ve missed your thread for the past few (important) days. Weird. I caught up today though and I am rejoicing for you!

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On my way to work this morning I just cired to God saying I guess my path is the divorce as I hadn't heard anything fom WH. I told God that I was okay with this although it's not what I had hoped for as an outcome.

Wow. This is awesome. I love it when God answers prayers. We don’t always get what we pray for because sometimes what we pray for isn’t what’s best for us. But when it happens, there’s nothing to compare.

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I e-mailed WH and asked if this was true. He e-mailed me back that he has alot of thinking to do, this deosn't mean we will be getting back together and that this past weekend was rough. (he's living with a single guy friend) That he needed a little space and we would talk soon.

We really don’t know what’s going on behind the scenes! Could it be that your WH had a rough weekend because God was dealing with him?

I agree with the others, baby steps. Even if he comes back, he won’t be your H for awhile. The fog is heavy and slow to lift.

The analogy about the birth… cool. You’ve labored hard and painfully to get to where you are now. It’s a new day, a new season in your life. Be happy.

(((Still)))


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One more thing... on getting your H to talk to Steve.

How 'bout this? WH, I don't know your reasons for postponing our hearing. What I do know is that it was a direct answer to a prayer I prayed right before I found out. In fact, I was in shock when I heard.

I realize that you don't know where you're at right now and quite frankly, neither do I. Will you please do one favor for me—no strings attached? Will you please speak with someone on the phone just one time and tell him how YOU feel? Just listen to what he has to say. He’s someone that has helped lots and lots of people in our situation find their way.


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PM,

Thanks for catching up on my thread. I thought about you and your story all last weekend. Hoping that God would somehow intervene like he did with you.

I never thought about his weekend being rough because God was dealing with him. I like that thought better.

Yes it's going to be baby steps... if he even wants to come back. I am giving him the time he asked for. When we do get the chance to talk I want to ask him to talk to Steve.

I hope my gut is right... I just feel good about what's happening.

Still


BW me 46
WH 46
Together 28 years married 23
3 Kids DD20, DD17 and DS 14
DD #1 (1st A) 10/13/01 with single OW who was co-worker
DD#2 1/23/02 phone call from OW
WH left job 4/02
MC 10/01 to 4/02 (when he showed up)
Separated 7/04 to 10/04
Retrouvaille 9/04
Red Flags 11/05
DD#1 (2nd affair) 8/16/06 with MOW age 29 twice married and he's her boss.
Moved out (him) weekend after labor day
23rd anniversary 10/7/07
Filed 10/18/06 still seeing MOW
Dropped divorce complaint 6/7/07
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Still,

I posted those emails partly to show you how the fog can begin to lift, slowly, over time. It was in December of last year, when he called, mistaking my phone number for OW, that I began to FEEL, intuitively, that all was not rosy. I don't know why I ever thought it was.

Your WH has a long way to go before he is defogged enough, but he did stop the D train, so there must be some fear of the divorce, of what he will lose. You sit tight, Still, and let him come to you. You don't contact him, let him contact you; let him do all of the lifting. This is not your journey right now, it is his.

Princessmeggy, if you are reading along today, could you give a timeline for your recovery? Could you give insight into how you FWH acted after one month, two months, six months, one year? I sense a disturbance in the force with PWC. I don't think he wants to run, but I think REALITY is sinking in hard, reality of everyday life; the kid, the dogs, the house. I also hurt my back, so I'm not much fun right now. I don't know how well he copes when I'm not well. I'll be fine over the next week, but I sense that he thinks I'm wimping out. Believe me, I'm not, just in excruciating pain, wishing I was my old self too.

TJ over.


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