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Well, now that just pisses me off. WZ (or the wife that used to be known as Mrs. Chrisner) is a stupid head!

Meh, whadya gonna do?

Wait, didn't I already say that. Must be the champange talking. The champagne talking and my lightheaded yearning for the spaghetti sauce that is cooking on the stove. The champagne talking and my lightheaded yearning for the spaghetti sauce that is cooking on the stove. See, now I'm repeating myself.

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Champagne again? Man, I want to have dinner at your house. I'm becoming more and more bachelor-ish all the time when it comes to food.

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You pay just as much for a good champagne as you do a good wine, and I bought a champagne saver thingy, so I try a new one now and then.

Anyhoo, I will prolly still cook, trying out my lighter recipes, tweaking them here and there. I like fresh veggies and REAL cooking. I'll just eat lotsa leftovers and give some to the WOLVES at work.


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Aside from the children, what is the gain to you?

This first struck me as being like "Aside from the oxygen, what's so great about breathing?" It is all about the children. What wouldn't I do for them?

Would I commit the rest of my life to a relationship I know I couldn't be happy in? No, but since our marriage hasn't had a real shot at being repaired, I hang around for that opportunity. Since I believe we could be happy again and that that would be what's best for the children, I hang in.

Okay - you're still willing and able to pay the price.

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Honestly, I'm wondering how you have maintained this for so long.

What I said above and because (about some things) I am incredibly stubborn and persistant. Part of it comes from being a die-hard fan of the Chicago Cubs for over 30 years. Perserverance. Now I will have two things to wait for with low-grade hope--the Cubs to win a Series and for my wife to pull her head out of her [censored]. It will be a race. I accept that neither may happen in my lifetime.

But the other part of it is what's the alternative? What would I be doing differently? Dating is about the only thing I can think of, but it's not like I've been beating the women away with a stick. Anyway, I'm still married. When I'm not married anymore, maybe I'll date, and if I find someone else and that ultimately precludes a recovery, well, so be it.

But that stuff that makes me unhappy right now? When I see my kids in pain over this? My dating isn't going to make that any better. The stuff that hurts me now would still be hurting me if I was dating and had "moved on."

To those of you in the audience who feel an urgency that I move on, I tell you that I am content with my life right now. I am doing what I want to do with it. I am trying to do the right thing, and I don't see myself looking back on this some day and thinking "what an idiot I was for trying to do the right thing."

Today is another good day. Except that I just tweaked a low back muscle again and it hurts a lot.

I'm certainly not saying you need to date, nor do I feel an urgency for you to move on.

I just don't want the personal price you pay to cause an overdraft before you notice it.

I want what is best for you and your kiddos, my friend. You know best whether SCQ has the ability to join you and be worthy of you at some point.

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Part of it comes from being a die-hard fan of the Chicago Cubs for over 30 years. Perserverance.


Perserverance? That's masochism!

But...uh...coming from a guy from Minnesota who has been rooting on the alleged professional football team from those parts since Joe Kapp was their quarterback the taunt loses much of it’s impact.

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I just don't want the personal price you pay to cause an overdraft before you notice it.

Truthfully, this has been my unsolicited worry too.

Have you ever tried gerbil trapping? I don't know what their pelt is worth and it probably takes a couple thousand to make a decent coat but it's probably easier than lunging at the little [censored].

Have a great weekend SD and Cowgirl.

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You, too, chris!

We're supposed to have pretty nice weather. 60's on Saturday and 70's on Sunday. Windy - but we'll deal with that. Hopefully, it is a nice Chinook Wind. ....or as Mariah Carey would say "a Schnook".

DD14 and I are planning a nice long horseback ride. DD13 is with WH this weekend.

I've got that filly that needs to be worked with - her injuries are all healed up except for the scars. We'll know this spring whether she's going to be able to remain sound.

What's everyone's plans for the weekend? Guy Smiley, feel free to chime in here. cool

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At last! A use for gerbils!

Fun With Gerbils!

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Errrrmmmm....is that video safe for work? Does it have Richard Gere in it..?

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No! Way better!

Breach loading cannons!

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Bugger all! Youtube is blocked from work and my proxy is down! Silly gits.

There was a great squirrel catapult on youtube too - that was hilarious.

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oh my goodness. that was hilarious.

Do any of you ever watch "The Root of All Evil" on Comedy Central? They debate between two different things which is the root of all evil. The other night it was between Porn or YouTube. It was decided that YouTube was the root of all evil.

I missed the one between [censored] Cheney and Paris Hilton...



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But...uh...coming from a guy from Minnesota who has been rooting on the alleged professional football team from those parts since Joe Kapp was their quarterback the taunt loses much of it’s impact.

I guess I haven't told you which NFL team I follow, but my favorite color is purple, in case that gives you any clues. I'm trying hard to become a Bolts fan, though.

Dogged, persistant, stubborn, perserverant, masochistic loyalty, misplaced though it may be.

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I just don't want the personal price you pay to cause an overdraft before you notice it.


Truthfully, this has been my unsolicited worry too.

Yeah, I'm not surprised. I've worried about it myself and had conversations with my IC.

How does one know when this happens? What are the results of overdrafting?

I asked once if I could break myself doing this, but she didn't think I could. I think she wants me to be done as much as anyone, but if I'm content. . . if my life isn't really that bad . . . if things like depression aren't beating me up and making me dysfunctional. . . what's going to happen? Won't I just stop caring at some point?

It's probably moot. The SCQ and I have been exchanging emails over final settlement. The house appraisal finally got done, so I suspect it will be over fairly soon. To which I say "Whatever."

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Hey SD,

Glad to hear you are doing fairly well. I say what's the rush? Do what you need to do in your own time. Things will work out in the end the way they are supposed to. You'll be done when you're done. Or not. If she does come back, and you still want to recover, she is the one who is going to have the biggest uphill battle. I'm sure she knows deep down what a mistake she is making, but I think sometimes that WSs feel that they've done to much damage to recover. It's just easier to stay with the OP at that point. Then when that R begins to crumble..

Keep focused on you and the kiddos and you will always know that you did the right thing. They are very lucky to have a dad like you, and someday they will be very grateful.




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6-3-07 - Dday#2 Found out NC never took place and A never ended. Found MB NC promised again, but WH would not write NC letter.

9/07 - Dday #3. Still lying and sneaking around. Plan B implemented
WH wants nothing to do with me

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Fox Quote: I just don't want the personal price you pay to cause an overdraft before you notice it.


Chrisner quote: Truthfully, this has been my unsolicited worry too.

sdguy quote: Yeah, I'm not surprised. I've worried about it myself and had conversations with my IC.

Awareness. That's a good thing. I just didn't want it to sneak up on you. Sounds like you have it covered.

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sdguy: How does one know when this happens? What are the results of overdrafting?

My guess is that you know when the overdraft happens when you do get to the point of not caring....and realize how much of yourself you gave. And maybe feel it was such a waste.

The results of an overdraft? My guess would be a longer road to personal recovery. You gave so much away that in order to recover that.....you have to work longer and harder to regain yourself.

This certainly may not be so for you, specifically. If your life is good and the only thing that you would do differently if you were "done" would be to date, I say good for you. If this is the case, you probably aren't in danger of overdrafting.

You sound healthy, sdguy. I'm glad to hear it.

You'll get to the point of "done" when it's your time, when your heart and soul are content with the effort made.

Wishing you and yours only the best.

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What are the results of overdrafting?

Extreme psychosis, hallucinations, frothing at the mouth, a fondness for rubber suits and possibly erections that last for more than 4-hours. Call your doctor if you experience these overdraft symptoms. If you experience the last one, call all your friends and brag.

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I guess I haven't told you which NFL team I follow, but my favorite color is purple, in case that gives you any clues.

A Cubs fan and a Vikings fan? Sorry brother, no wonder you’re depressed.

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I'm trying hard to become a Bolts fan, though.

Does SDG&E have a football team?

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You sound healthy, sdguy. I'm glad to hear it.

As healthy as a Cubs/Vikings fan can be.



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A Cubs fan and a Vikings fan? Sorry brother, no wonder you’re depressed.

Yeah, and (get this) my college team (BB and FB) is the University of Minnesota. That's right--the Golden Gophers. A speed bump on the season schedule for Michigan and Ohio State.

I'm not sure exactly what this says about me short of loyalty well past the point of sanity.

I've never cared enough about the NBA to have a team (could have been a Bulls fan during their run)--I guess if I started now it would probably have to be the Clippers, right?

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A Cubs fan and a Vikings fan? Sorry brother, no wonder you’re depressed.

Yeah, and (get this) my college team (BB and FB) is the University of Minnesota. That's right--the Golden Gophers. A speed bump on the season schedule for Michigan and Ohio State.

I'm not sure exactly what this says about me short of loyalty well past the point of sanity.

I've never cared enough about the NBA to have a team (could have been a Bulls fan during their run)--I guess if I started now it would probably have to be the Clippers, right?


Well look at it this way brother.. I've been a Chicago Blackhawks fan for life.. some things just don't get better yet we choose to hang on..

You know.. I wonder if we took a survey of BS's (who survive an A that goes past exposure) if we wouldn't find that they too have an almost fanatical devotion to a team..


our chief weapon is suprise... suprise and fear... and an almost fanatical devotion to the pope... our three weapons are....


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My cousin was Goldie the Gopher in the early '80's. He got to pose with the cheerleaders and such. He is 6'-5" so he fit the costume pretty well. Sounded like fun.

I think of that when I see one of those "battle of the mascot" commercials.

I went to about a dozen Viking games at old Met Stadium. Fran Tarkenton, Chuck Foreman, Allen Page, Rashad, on and on.

I have one of the wood fold down seats with cast iron ends from the Met in my garage.

Now the Mall of the Northern Hemisphere sits there.

Progress......


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Goldie is a great mascot. Way better than that Buckeye thing or the train.

Chief Illiniwek was pretty cool til the PC Police (Don't disrespect Native American cultures) finally brought him down. Along those lines, I've always wondered why there aren't huge crowds of Scandinavians protesting the use of cultural stereotypes at Vikings games. I mean, have you ever seen Ragnar?

Anyway, I'm doing well. Another full weekend with the kids--baseball practice this afternoon, a game tomorrow, and we're planning to go to Seaworld on Sunday.


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Ragnar is wussy longhouse trash compared to the old guy they had in the late 70's and into the 80's. That guy was great.

I would love to see a Minnesota Scandinavian protest about the cultural steroetype of the Vikings. I can see them interviewing Lena now: "Ohh you know..those Viking football people make me sooo mad don'tcha know. Would you like some hotdish?"

I got through the "paper cut" round so I interview this afternoon for the head girls coach job at the high school DD20 graduated from. Should be fun.

Have a great time at Seaworld. Don't put your head in a Killer Whales mouth! It's only a matter of time.

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