Ha! But I'll bet there are plenty of others there who feel the same way.

Also: I know that many are really put off by the "addiction excuse", as in, "Well, it's a disease and I'm sick so I can't help it and it's not my fault!"

I look at it this way:

Nobody just wakes up one day being an addict - not without ever having used the addictive substance or engaged in the addictive behavior.

At some point, the person chooses the behavior that *leads* to addiction. *Then* the addiction itself kicks in and *then* they are truly in the grip of an illness, but not before.

No matter what kind of addiction it is - whether it's chemical like alcohol or cocaine or meth, or behavioral like gambling or shopping or sex - at some point, the person chooses the behavior that leads to the addiction and they are responsible for that choice.

If you no longer control it, but it controls you, it's an addiction.

Of course they do - but not to him, except as props for his money machine. I think his long-term behavior proves that.


Of course - I wish she would come here. Would be pretty funny if she is here and we just didn't realize it, and that would be fine because this is an anonymous site.

The trouble is, I'm not sure there's anything to save. I don't think he ever loved her and I think he did it strictly because his handlers told him it would be good for his image. "Oh, a wife would help my endorsements? Okay, fix me up with one of those."

I'm not sure how you can fix a marriage that never really existed in the first place. Haven't we seen that here?

What's worse is that his wife does seem to love him, but Tiger loves no one but himself. I am afraid he will simply destroy her with more lies and manipulation and cheating.

She seems to be a Buyer, but he is a total Freeloader in the marriage department. I know what that situation is like and I am afraid that's how she will end up. And I don't care how rich you are - no amount of money is worth that kind of suffering.

Not trying to argue - just hate to see someone walk blindly into that trap, and I think that's what she's doing. I guess we'll see.

I think Tiger has "entitlement addiction". Don't know that there's a cure for that, unless all the fans and advertisers go away and stay away. Then I think the entitlement thing would go away.

I pray for all these wayward marriages to be restored. It is an epidemic and a breakdown of society and family.

I even pray for Tiger to humble himself and have an awakening to the value of his family.

Miracles do happen which we experience with MBers on this board.

My cynical side does question this future drama of "Tiger coming out of the A closet". Is he going to try and make it right or is he going to say all the "right words" to get his endorsements back?

Isn't some big PGA tour coming in March that he wants to participate in?

If he is doing this for the above reasons...then I hope that he is inudated with questions questions questions. Let the truth be told not spinned.

Well, it's been documented that he was involved with the wh*re collection before he met Elin, during their courtship, at the time of their wedding and ever since their wedding. He never changed one thing as far as behving like a single man. Is that love? That's why I said that.

Of course - but as we say so often around here, "hope is not a plan". I just hope Elin is not opening herself to a far worse round of suffering at his hands if it's all going to be for nothing anyway.

If nothing else, he sure is getting people to talk about how and why spouses cheat and IMO that's always a good thing.

I totally agree with you - and I would add that you don't have to be world famous to be surrounded by wretched sycophants who will happily watch you destroy your life if it means they can have the crumbs and leftovers. XWH's was "famous" at his Big American Corporation and it was exactly the same way.

Somebody on tv - might have been Dr. Sanjay Gupta - said that the people who get the worst medical care in the world are the very rich and the very poor. I would also say that the very rich and the very popular also get the worst "friends" in the world.

Well, let's see what happens. Maybe that golf club upside his head did more good than any amount of therapy.

P.S. I understand Eddie Murphy is now divorced with several children, his career has been going downhill for years and he has a reputation for picking up transvestite prostitutes. Wow, those "devoted friends" sure did help!

I hope Pep's most optimistic prediction comes true, while I feel that Mulan's most pessimistic is the most likely outcome, here.

But for a revolting-humor contribution... perhaps Tiger could star in a remake of Stanley Kubrick's "A Clockwork Orange" (a truly bizarre movie, IMHO).

-ol' 2long

I think Tiger may have one positive factor in his favour - Elin.

She appears to have acted with strength and determination, and to have set some wise boundaries. Tiger got away with everything because his wife seems to have trusted him and only got suspicious towards the end. I think the environment he'll have to support his self-entitled ways will be changed.

Also, his MO of convincing the current gold-digging cocktail waitress that she's 'the one' has been blown. Or rather, he'd have to look for even thicker women, and I'm not sure there are any.

TA

I watched and thought he was sincere. Of course some media people were knocking him and would have knocked him no matter what he said or did. It was much better than I thought it was going to be. I'm glad he told the media to basically shut up and leave his family alone.

The hugs at the end were a little staged, though.

My exWW will be phoning him soon.

You make some very good points. No matter what happens, he'll never be able to go back to the old set-up and that can only be a good thing.



That's for sure! Hope all of these brain-dead OW out there are listening, whether it's regarding Tiger or any other married man. But you're right - they're probably not.

The way he did this, he may have enlisted the largest army of accountability witness in the history of the civilized world.

On the other hand, he might go as underground as the Marianas Trench.

Only time will tell. Actions make you a FWS, not words.

Here's hoping he really means what he says.

Well, we all know that talk is cheap. It's going to take a lot of action on his part to convince people of his sincerity.

And for crying out loud, parents! PLEASE don't encourage your kids to idolize people who get paid huge sums of money because of their athletic skills!