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The affair is over, but my husband is holding on to letters and pictures from the OW. He says he is "just not ready to let go yet."

Any thoughts on this? Shouldn't he WANT to let go for OUR sake? How do I approach this?


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
The affair is over, but my husband is holding on to letters and pictures from the OW. He says he is "just not ready to let go yet."

Any thoughts on this? Shouldn't he WANT to let go for OUR sake? How do I approach this?

That's a big red flag.

We need more information.

How long married? Any children? Ages?
How long was the affair? When did it end?
Who was the OW?
Who was this exposed to, if anyone?

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How long married? 11 years

Any children? 2 girls Ages? 6 and 5 -- 5 year old has special needs

How long was the affair? -- 4 months. Emotional Affair with a woman out of state. He traveled to see her ONCE, no sexual contact.

When did it end? October 11 - the day before our 11th anniversary, 2 months after D-Day

Who was the OW? An old friend from his youth

Who was this exposed to, if anyone? Once I discovered it, I told a LOT of people in search of support. He told no one but his parents after they heard it from me.


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Is the OW married?

Who did you expose to on OW's side?

Did he write a NC letter?


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Hi blndbabz, welcome to Marriage Builders. Sorry for the reasons that have brought you here. What do you know about the OW? Is she married? Does she have a facebook page?

Does your husband travel for a living?


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
The affair is over, but my husband is holding on to letters and pictures from the OW. He says he is "just not ready to let go yet."

Any thoughts on this? Shouldn't he WANT to let go for OUR sake? How do I approach this?
Your husband is holding onto the affair, because he is still hoping to resume it. It pains him not a whit to think of the pain his holding onto these causes you; and this demonstates that he is not at all serious about recovering your marriage. He might be serious someday, but he is not now, at least not yet.

Speaking to you as a man who had an affair (the worst thing I've ever done), if I were you, I'd give him about 30 seconds to put those pictures out in the trash, or about 30 minutes to get all of his things packed & outta there. That's giving him the courtesy of a choice, which is more than he gave you when he opted to have an affair.


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
How long was the affair? -- 4 months. Emotional Affair with a woman out of state. He traveled to see her ONCE, no sexual contact.

How do you know there was no sexual contact? I find that hard to believe.


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Originally Posted by BrainHurts
Is the OW married?

Who did you expose to on OW's side?

Did he write a NC letter?

OW is in the middle of a divorce. No one on her side knows a thing. He did not write a letter, but ended things verbally.


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Originally Posted by MelodyLane
. What do you know about the OW? Is she married? Does she have a facebook page?

Does your husband travel for a living?

I know a lot. He has disclosed most of the details. She is mid divorce. I have seen her facebook page and she would often post messages to him calling him "Monkey." Her messages are mostly song lyrics, often inappropriate ones.

Hubs does not travel for a living. He lied about a visit to his mother's home. He was easily caught when he never showed up at his mom's. I found him by pinging the GPS on his phone. frown



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Originally Posted by GloveOil
Originally Posted by blndbabz
The affair is over, but my husband is holding on to letters and pictures from the OW. He says he is "just not ready to let go yet."

Any thoughts on this? Shouldn't he WANT to let go for OUR sake? How do I approach this?
Your husband is holding onto the affair, because he is still hoping to resume it. It pains him not a whit to think of the pain his holding onto these causes you; and this demonstates that he is not at all serious about recovering your marriage. He might be serious someday, but he is not now, at least not yet.

Speaking to you as a man who had an affair (the worst thing I've ever done), if I were you, I'd give him about 30 seconds to put those pictures out in the trash, or about 30 minutes to get all of his things packed & outta there. That's giving him the courtesy of a choice, which is more than he gave you when he opted to have an affair.

I don't know that he is holding on to the affair. He is very angry with the OW. She began harassing my family, his parents, and my parents after he ended the affair. He is so angry. He wrote a letter to her husband and her parents explaining the affair, took a picture of it, and sent it to her with a warning that any further attempts to contact him or any member of his family will result in him mailing the letters.


Me: BW - 37 years old
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Originally Posted by black_raven
How do you know there was no sexual contact? I find that hard to believe.

Stress can be the biggest killer of romance. Call it Karma or Mother Nature, but I know that he developed a medical condition that prevented him from having sex just prior to his visit with her.. He does say that he would not have done it if he could have, but I doubt that.


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Thanks for all the support and questions. I'm not 100% sure why this was moved out of the recovery thread. The truth is we are on the road to recovery. We are both happy and working hard on making this work out. I'm just struggling a bit with the letters and photos. I'm not sure what he's waiting for when it comes to getting rid of them.


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
Originally Posted by BrainHurts
Is the OW married?

Who did you expose to on OW's side?

Did he write a NC letter?

OW is in the middle of a divorce. No one on her side knows a thing. He did not write a letter, but ended things verbally.

"In the middle of a divorce" is weasel-ese for MARRIED. I would begin by informing her husband of the affair. Does the OW have a facebook page?


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
Originally Posted by MelodyLane
. What do you know about the OW? Is she married? Does she have a facebook page?

Does your husband travel for a living?

I know a lot. He has disclosed most of the details. She is mid divorce. I have seen her facebook page and she would often post messages to him calling him "Monkey." Her messages are mostly song lyrics, often inappropriate ones.

blndbabz, the best thing you can do for your marriage is expose this affair. Affairs thrive on secrecy, so exposing it ruins the fantasy and magic of the affair. It is no fun to hang onto a fantasy when everyone is looking at you with disgust and horror. Eveyrone should know that the OW was carrying on with a married man, especially her husband. He has a RIGHT to know what your husband and his wife have done behind his back.

Please go read the link in my signature about "exposure." It will tell you how to do this. You should probably go to her facebook page NOW and copy and paste her contacts into a WORD doc for safekeeping.

Can you go do that?

And you do realize that he lied about not having sex with her, right?


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
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I don't know that he is holding on to the affair. He is very angry with the OW. She began harassing my family, his parents, and my parents after he ended the affair. He is so angry. He wrote a letter to her husband and her parents explaining the affair, took a picture of it, and sent it to her with a warning that any further attempts to contact him or any member of his family will result in him mailing the letters.

Do you still have the letter? You can send that to the husband and the parents.


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
Thanks for all the support and questions. I'm not 100% sure why this was moved out of the recovery thread. The truth is we are on the road to recovery. We are both happy and working hard on making this work out. I'm just struggling a bit with the letters and photos. I'm not sure what he's waiting for when it comes to getting rid of them.

You are not in recovery if he is hanging onto these momentos. Not even close. Is there a reason why you are tolerating having these reminders of the worst thing that ever happened to you in your home? Surely he understands that this is an abhorrent reminder of the affair?


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
Originally Posted by black_raven
How do you know there was no sexual contact? I find that hard to believe.

Stress can be the biggest killer of romance. Call it Karma or Mother Nature, but I know that he developed a medical condition that prevented him from having sex just prior to his visit with her.. He does say that he would not have done it if he could have, but I doubt that.

That is not believable. frown There are many ways to have sex and a man does not travel to see his OW and not have sex.


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
Originally Posted by black_raven
How do you know there was no sexual contact? I find that hard to believe.

Stress can be the biggest killer of romance. Call it Karma or Mother Nature, but I know that he developed a medical condition that prevented him from having sex just prior to his visit with her.. He does say that he would not have done it if he could have, but I doubt that.

Even if there was no sexual intercourse (which I don't believe) there is still all sorts of sexual contact they could have had. Unless you were personally there to witness what took place or WH has had a polygraph, I would not believe what your WS says. All WSs are liars and will minimize what happened...hoping a BS will buy it and leave it alone. In all the years I have been on MB, I can't recall a single WS puking up all the details and not withholding info.


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The affair is over, but my husband is holding on to letters and pictures from the OW. He says he is "just not ready to let go yet."

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I don't know that he is holding on to the affair. He is very angry with the OW.

You are making a very common mistake and judging your husband by his WORDS rather than his actions. It is a shock and awe tactic to throw you off balance so you won't expose his affair. The fact that he is hanging onto these momentoes shows how he really feels.

If you want to kill the affair for good, I would expose it to her husband, her parents and her facebook friends. Your husband should not be told in advance of the exposure. And if he is sincere about recovery, he won't mind this at all. I would also insist that he get rid of all momentos. You can burn this trash together in your backyard BBQ.


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Originally Posted by blndbabz
I don't know that he is holding on to the affair.

If he is holding onto pictures and letters of OW, he is holding onto the affair.

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He is very angry with the OW. She began harassing my family, his parents, and my parents after he ended the affair. He is so angry. He wrote a letter to her husband and her parents explaining the affair, took a picture of it, and sent it to her with a warning that any further attempts to contact him or any member of his family will result in him mailing the letters.

He is sooooo angry but he keeps her pictures and letters? crazy
He is sooooo angry that he writes an exposure letter but doesn't send it? MrRollieEyes

Your WH is playing games. He hasn't DONE anything and is only trying to do damage control. Lots of talk and no action here. If you want to get to the truth, you should contact the BH and speak to him.


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