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#2762790 10/26/13 07:39 PM
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I found out about dh's work affair five weeks ago, and because of my own end of making the marriage unhappy, have tried to change and win him back. He has become more and more distant, and has been more and more brazen in seeing her. He maintains that they aren't physical, and only go out in groups. He says he has only stayed with me for the house and dd. I have been told I will only break his trust if I contact the woman, who doesn't know he is married. I have a history of being controlling and manipulative, and this would be seen as further proof that I haven't changed, if I go behind his back. I promised I wouldn't talk to anyone he knows either, after I talked to his mom and he became very angry. It actually made him more brazen after that. He shows no remorse in going out anymore.

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BBS, welcome to Marriage Builders. Sorry for the reasons that brought you here.

The first thing you should do is contact the OW and tell her that your husband is married to you. I would expose the affair in a strategic, methodical manner. The reason is because affairs thrive on secrecy and the only way you can save your marriage is kill the affair. Since exposure ruins affairs, it is the fastest method in saving your marriage.

Exposure is the most effective tool in saving your marriage.

Please go read the Exposure thread in my signature for best practices.


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I have been told I will only break his trust if I contact the woman, who doesn't know he is married.

After you contact the OW and expose his affair, tell him he can NEVER EVER trust you to cover up his sleazy, destructive affair for him because you love him too much to be an ENABLER.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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I keep reading that, but I'm scared it doesn't apply to my situation. I'm scared I'll make it worse. He doesn't want to be with me, and making him mad isn't going to help with that.

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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I keep reading that, but I'm scared it doesn't apply to my situation. I'm scared I'll make it worse. He doesn't want to be with me, and making him mad isn't going to help with that.

See, our goal is to save your marriage. Yours is to avoid his anger at any cost. That won't save your marriage. It does apply to your situation *IF* you want to save your marriage.

He doesn't want to be with you because he is having an affair. That is why you must kill the affair if you want to have any hope of saving your marriage.

Do you want to save your marriage?



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He has been unhappy for years, is the thing. We have always had problems.

I do want to save it, and am willing to do whatever necessary. I've just been told that this won't help me. frown

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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
He has been unhappy for years, is the thing. We have always had problems.

That describes about 99% of marriages that come here for help.

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I do want to save it, and am willing to do whatever necessary. I've just been told that this won't help me. frown

It is about the ONLY thing that will help you. Most of here who are in recovered marriages attribute that to exposure. We have had affairs end the day they were exposed. I predict yours would. Dr Bill Harley is a clinical psychologist, author of Surviving an Affair and founder of Marriage Builders. He has saved thousands of marriages using these tactics and here is what he says:

Originally Posted by Dr Bill Harley
"Exposure is very likely to end the affair, lifting the fog that has overcome the unfaithful spouse, helping him or her become truly repentant and willing to put energy and effort into a full marital recovery. In my experience with thousands of couples who struggle with the fallout of infidelity, exposure has been the single most important first step toward recovery. It not only helps end the affair, but it also provides support to the betrayed spouse, giving him or her stamina to hold out for ultimate recovery."

You have no hope if you can't kill the affair. And the longer it goes on the more entrenched it becomes. The more entrenched the more likely he is to leave you for her. And every time he sees her he takes the risk of getting her pregnant. Go read some of the horror stories in Pregnancy forum if you want to see what can happen.

Bottom line is that by keeping his secret, you are ENBLING her affair. At your expense and the expense of your marriage.


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I do want to save it, and am willing to do whatever necessary. I've just been told that this won't help me. frown

Who told you this? Not someone who knows how to save marriages.


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BBS, your marriage can survive your husbands temporary anger over exposure but it CAN'T survive this affair. Enabling his affair is not going to save your marriage, it will wreck it. Your silence makes you an accessory to the crime and almost ensures you won't make it.

Every day that goes by while the affair is kept secret, your chances go down and down.


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I keep reading that, but I'm scared it doesn't apply to my situation. I'm scared I'll make it worse. He doesn't want to be with me, and making him mad isn't going to help with that.

BMBS, speaking to you as a man who stupidly & selfishly got into an affair, and yet managed to save his marriage, let me tell you that exposing the affair is the best way to break it up; and breaking up the affair is the best & only chance to save your marriage.

You think that doesn't apply to your case? Who do you think knows more, from real-life experience that I wish I'd never had, about what it takes to kill an affair: You, or I? (Hint: It's not you.)

Be smart. Take my word on it. For God's sake, expose the affair! Give your marriage a fighting chance. Keeping it quiet only enables it to continue. Don't be an enabler.

We're not here to criticize you. We're not here for money, because we don't get any for spending our free time. We want you to have the best chance to rescue your marriage, but we can't take the action you need to take for you. Only you can do it.


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He seems very sure of divorce. I'm scared.

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How old are you and WH?

How long have you been married?

Welcome to MB


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We've been together 16 years, married 8.

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He half admitted he's been physical with her. He's more and more comfortable with divorce. I'm ready.

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If he's ready for D then why do you hesitate to expose? You have nothing to lose at this point!!


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I have a history of being controlling and manipulative, and this would be seen as further proof that I haven't changed

I don't know what you categorize as controlling and manipulative but you can't be THAT controlling if your WH can manage to have an affair and continues to do so while rubbing it in your face. It's always amazing how that works! cool


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
He half admitted he's been physical with her. He's more and more comfortable with divorce. I'm ready.

Exposure is your best chance to avoid divorce. Exposure will likely kill the affair. At the least it will hasten it's death. Please go read the exposure thread and start making plans. Come back and we will help you fine tune your plan.

And whatever you do, don't forewarn him and don't threaten exposure.


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Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I have been told I will only break his trust if I contact the woman, who doesn't know he is married
This is emotional blackmail. He is doing this so you don't ruin his little love nest and so he can be a cake eater. He is manipulating you because he knows you are scared and are afraid of losing him. He has you exactly where he wants you.

Why are you more concerned about not making him mad than fighting for your M?


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I want to call her and send her a Facebook message. She doesn't know he's married. I'm terrified she won't care. What do I do if she stays with him anyway? What is a good template for her message? I will send a message to her sister as well. On WH's end, I'm going to contact his close friend, who is also a coworker. I have already talked to his mom, and it didn't help. I can send a message to another coworker, but I'd rather it be more generic. WH was drunk tonight, and said they hadn't been physical, but he thinks about her constantly. I don't want to embarrass him unnecessarily. If there is a way to say they have been getting too close, so please remember he's married, to that coworker, that would be enough. My aunt wants to talk to him, but when his brother found out, he practically encouraged it. I just don't know what I'm going to do if she stays with him anyway.

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Originally Posted by Loyal2afault
Originally Posted by BeingMyBestSelf
I have been told I will only break his trust if I contact the woman, who doesn't know he is married
This is emotional blackmail. He is doing this so you don't ruin his little love nest and so he can be a cake eater. He is manipulating you because he knows you are scared and are afraid of losing him. He has you exactly where he wants you.

Why are you more concerned about not making him mad than fighting for your M?

I'm scared you all are wrong, at least for my situation. This can't be undone. frown

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