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If you like you can email Dr Harley directly for advice
Typically he places child safety above marital recovery

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The implied custody is that specified in restraining order. Final custody would have to be determined in a custody hearing, separate from restraining order hearing. It is still a bit confusing to me and am trying to clarify with lawyer.

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Civil order of custody is what I have.
You want the police order. It carries a lot more weight

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If you drop the restraining order, she will possibly get the kids and get an order against you.
So for the sake of your kids don't drop it

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The legal counselor brought up that if my wife is represented by a lawyer tomorrow, they may propose what is called civil restraint. It can be similar in terms to a restraining order but is not enforced by police if it i broken. Instead if one party vilated civil restraint, the other party has to file a motion with the court and then monitary restitution is paid.

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Originally Posted by eden13
The legal counselor brought up that if my wife is represented by a lawyer tomorrow, they may propose what is called civil restraint. It can be similar in terms to a restraining order but is not enforced by police if it i broken. Instead if one party vilated civil restraint, the other party has to file a motion with the court and then monitary restitution is paid.

Then you need to tell the judge: "I need protection because she is violent towards me"

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How do I get to e-mail Dr. Harley directly?

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How do I get to e-mail Dr. Harley directly?

Send your email to: mbradio@marriagebuilders.com.
Include your phone number so he can call you if needed.

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Thanks Jedi_Knight

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Originally Posted by eden13
How do I get to e-mail Dr. Harley directly?
Email your questions to Joyce Harley at mbradio@marriagebuilders.com. When your email question is chosen to be answered on the radio show, you will be notified by email directing you to listen to the rebroadcast. If you would like to consider being a caller, include your telephone number. You will be called by us to explain the procedure to you. Every caller will receive a complementary book by Dr. Harley that addresses their question.


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In my state restraining orders are permanent, they are not reviewed or renewed as in some other states. Though my online research shows that they can be vacated by the court given certain criteria. It is likely that much time would have to pass and would admit to not fearing her anymore. I am considering adjournment to give more time t plan and think. I could not take them out of state though during adjournment.

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The other consideration have to make is if I don't finalize RO and pursue custody, I may not get custody if WW comes up with enough on me to keep that from happening. I have heard that courts generally side with mother in custody cases.

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What are your thoughts on whether or not taking kids to my parents would be best for kids.Financially it is right now because they would help with childcare. But I am concerned about lovebusting in their home.

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I don't think the court will allow you to leave the state, possibly not the county.

I suggest you contact the local welfare agencies for assistance

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Do you attend a church?

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I do not regularly attend church, though my kids go to religious education. My wife had been teaching my son's religious ed class. I don't know if she is able to still teach with her pending charges. She did not teach last Sunday, according to my son.

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What are your thoughts on whether or not taking kids to my parents would be best for kids.Financially it is right now because they would help with childcare. But I am concerned about lovebusting in their home.

Just a quick clarification:

In Marriage Builders terminology, "lovebusting" and "lovebusters" refer to behaviors which can diminish feelings of romantic love between spouses. Since the terms refer to behaviors within the context of a romantic relationship, they don't apply to parent/child relationships.

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Originally Posted by eden13
I do not regularly attend church, though my kids go to religious education. My wife had been teaching my son's religious ed class. I don't know if she is able to still teach with her pending charges. She did not teach last Sunday, according to my son.

Have you exposed her affair to the church and religous ed parents?
If not do so immediately.

I encourage you to reach out to a church, one that has family programs.
They can help you, as they have I, with raising kids

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Originally Posted by Jedi_Knight
If you like you can email Dr Harley directly for advice
Typically he places child safety above marital recovery

This is correct. Protect your children first. You don't have to email Dr Harley to find that out, he is very clear on that.


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Originally Posted by JessicaClaire
Originally Posted by eden13
What are your thoughts on whether or not taking kids to my parents would be best for kids.Financially it is right now because they would help with childcare. But I am concerned about lovebusting in their home.

Just a quick clarification:

In Marriage Builders terminology, "lovebusting" and "lovebusters" refer to behaviors which can diminish feelings of romantic love between spouses. Since the terms refer to behaviors within the context of a romantic relationship, they don't apply to parent/child relationships.

Actually the terms apply to the behavior.
In the article below, Harley describes the child's behavior as "Love Busting"
The term is not exclusive to married couples.

http://www.marriagebuilders.com/graphic/mbi5031b_qa.html

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