And we'll just have to agree to disagree with the OW bashing. You never heard me refer to my wife's OM's gorilla-like body (covered with hair). No jokes about dipping him in a giant vat of dipillatory wax, or coming after him with an Epilady. Not me... I'm waaaaayyyy to mature for that kind of nonsense... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Hahahaha

Missed you Catnip!!!!!! Good to hear your update! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />

So sorry to hear you're still fighting the same system, no sanity. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> May things go better in court this time, and if not, may God continue to bless you with that wicked sense of humor that keeps you going! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

I still steam over the no-contact spat. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> I realize I broke the "if-you-can't-say-anything-nice-don't-say-anything-at-all" rule, and I HATE getting sucked into those, but I am FED UP, fed up with people who are allowed to repeatly bash no contact and stay on this board.

Catnip-who's-been-here-forever-and-a-day-beyond-me understands, I think. It pisses me off knowing our OC is fed the same lines, same lies; in XOW's scenario, I am Enemy #1 solo "cause" of OC's "abandonment", never mind any facts. I try to remind myself that Satan is the master of deception and that fighting him is not my fight, but God's.

J., feeling twice my age some days

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by K:
<strong>Catnip,

Best of luck in court. I'll be saying prayers, etc.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">How can you stand to read this stuff and not just verbally bytch slap them for their atrocious bad manners, endless disrespect and obvious lack of charity? Some people just do not belong here and their presence here has changed the boards for the majority and that ain't fair.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You know, I try not to slap anyone. I know that a bunch of BS's here have either moved on or gone into hiding because of some of the crap that goes on...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh man, I couldn't agree with this more... It is a downright shame that any BS felt they needed to avoid this place because of xOW or xWS's coming down too hard.

It wouldn't be so bad IF the MB concepts were embraced and MB was the primary focus of the debating but oftentimes MB is not the focus.

OOPS, I read the update thread before I read this thread! It was great to read your update, and that Bipolar is doing so well! I would love to help you move, as you probably have some type of cooling other than fans!!!! Ok, enough complaints about my weather. Are you gonna let us all know about your book when it's done? I hope so, cause I know that I'd love to read it!

Again, I didn't see your posts here before I replied to the "Update thread" by OB1!

Love ya,

Tigger

Hey Catnip,

Just wanted to add my welcome back also. I sure have missed you here on the boards. You have helped me in my darkest hours.

I would love to join the shishkabob document sorting party, but I have always been the one designated to bring the chips or paper products.

I can't believe how much work you two have done on the house. It sounds fantastic.

Tina

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Love ya woman!!! All the old posts certainly were theraputic to say the very least...

BTW our ow is fat fat fat.....and me? Still a size 4, with twins!!!! AHHHH!!!!! and I'm blonde to boot! Must be where those awful comments come from, huh?

xxxxxx
Debi

Gee Gem,

I am ready for a new me, is 50 too old for twins?

I have already be blondified.

Tina

ME-OW, Deb. So the "girls" are as perky as ever?

I read on another thread about the OW yipping about your age as if you were Methusela. Don't let OW make you feel weird about your age either....age and treachery will win out over youth and ignorance every time. You're about the same age as Madonna and no one is as old as Cher. Apparantly, OW does not realize that a piano only gets better if it is played and fine vintage wine is more rewarding and satisfying than the CHEAP stuff. I mean, sure, we can all have a good time on Boone's Farm or Ripple...for the moment; but come morning there are always those deep regrets as we hurl into porcelain. My point being that no porky young OW is any match for you even if you're 40 but look 25-30 and built like a brick you know what. Please don't let her get to you, Gem.

Thanks for the warm welcome back.

Cat

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jenny:
<strong>Missed you Catnip!!!!!!

I missed you, too, my oldest and dearest. How are things going with you, husband and kids?

So sorry to hear you're still fighting the same system, no sanity.

It's a drag, Jen. We have a new attorney who seems competent but oooohhhh, how I wish cd were finished with school. I have complete confidence in her where I barely know this guy. He is, however, completely sympathetic to our cause and is stunned by the way Bipolar is and has been treated by the courts. In fact, after the last eharing during the first time he represented my hsuband, he called and said, "Sheesh, they really, really hate you. What is that about." My husband just said, "I don't know. I've never even met any of them."

May things go better in court this time, and if not, may God continue to bless you with that wicked sense of humor that keeps you going!

I hope things work out better this time, too. Otherwise, we will have to do something drastic. As long as the humor stays wicked humor and doesn't morph into just plain wicked, we're OK.

I still steam over the no-contact spat. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" /> I realize I broke the "if-you-can't-say-anything-nice-don't-say-anything-at-all" rule, and I HATE getting sucked into those, but I am FED UP, fed up with people who are allowed to repeatly bash no contact and stay on this board.

I guess I missed the "no contact" thread and if it made you mad, it will definietely make me mad, so I will stay away from it. It shouldn't erupt into a volitile pyssing match anyway as most of the people here have no contact and everyone's situation is different and no one should be chastised for what they have decided on the contact issue. Dontcha hate getting sucked in?

It pisses me off knowing our OC is fed the same lines, same lies; in XOW's scenario, I am Enemy #1 solo "cause" of OC's "abandonment", never mind any facts.

I KNOW it is the same way for us, too, but for some reason, I don't care. It's weird...kind of like sticks and stones. I know that we had no say and she called all the shots and therefore since we were powerless and hundreds of miles away...oh well. We cannot control what OW says to OC and therefore it is out of our hands and into God's. I'll let him sort it out...he is far more wise and powerful than I for sure. He can handle it better than I so I will let Him. As far as the court thing and financial support, it is hurting me and making my life uncomfortahble and miserable, so I will give it all I've got to have the CS reduced to fair and reasonable. I am wise enough to have the courage to change the things I can under the "Lord helps those who help themselves". I guess we all have to learn when it is right to let go and when it is right to step in.

I try to remind myself that Satan is the master of deception and that fighting him is not my fight, but God's.

Yup.

J., feeling twice my age some days

Then it's time for a spa day!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

Cat

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Tina71:
[QB]Hey Catnip,

Just wanted to add my welcome back also. I sure have missed you here on the boards. You have helped me in my darkest hours.

Thank you, Tina, for the welcome. I've missed you, too and have thought about you so often. I know your dark hours continued long after I left and got all caught up in my own drama and my H & G but knew that many of the gals here were looking out for you. Besides, you had my phone number and I hoped you would call if you were in real trouble. So, how have things turned out for you thus far? Any changes?

I would love to join the shishkabob document sorting party, but I have always been the one designated to bring the chips or paper products.

Then bring salsa with the chips, too!

I can't believe how much work you two have done on the house. It sounds fantastic.

Doesn't it? I tell ya, I feel like I've been rode hard and put away wet. I didn't know someone could work this hard and live to tell about it. But the rewards are very satisfying and it is really, really nice now. It was a nice little bungalow to begin with but now....my, oh my, oh my!

It sure is good to talk to you again....

Cat

QUOTE]

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by BINthereDUNthat:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by K:
<strong>Catnip,

Best of luck in court. I'll be saying prayers, etc.

Oh thanks so much, BTDT. I am so discouraged about it because it's been the same old, same old for five freaking years. Maybe now the tide will turn.

[QUOTE]I know that a bunch of BS's here have either moved on or gone into hiding because of some of the crap that goes on...
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Oh man, I couldn't agree with this more... It is a downright shame that any BS felt they needed to avoid this place because of xOW or xWS's coming down too hard.

It wouldn't be so bad IF the MB concepts were embraced and MB was the primary focus of the debating but oftentimes MB is not the focus.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think the MB concepts here are embraced by most or all of the Betrayeds and at least three of the Former OP's (You, Tigger & Ohbratti for sure) and I think the concept is the focus until one of the wars erupt. Then pandemoneum (did I spell that right? I love that word but never knew how to spell it correctly) breaks loose.

You know, you are always the same and never veer from your message. I love your consistency and how completely non-hypocritical you seem to be. I feel like I could set my watch to you or something. God, that is comforting. Thanks, BTDT.

Cat

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by tigger4jdt:
<strong>It was great to read your update, and that Bipolar is doing so well!

Oh, thanks. I am really proud of him.

I would love to help you move, as you probably have some type of cooling other than fans!!!!

Oh God, I use use the help. I am immobilized with being overwhelmed so little is getting done. I might have to abandon MB again until I finish the process just to stay focused. So many demands on me right now. As far as "cooling"...it is cool here in MN right now. About 60 something. Our heat wave is over (thank you Lord for the reprieve) so I might be able to get the doors stained now.

Ok, enough complaints about my weather.

Where are you anyway? How is Sailorman and the kids and Abbi doing? How are her eyes?

Are you gonna let us all know about your book when it's done? I hope so, cause I know that I'd love to read it!

The book is at least a year away but it will get done. When it is finished, I will let you know.

Love ya,

Tigger

Love you, too....

Cat

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<small>[ July 10, 2003, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: catnip ]</small>

Aw Catnip, so nice having you around. :-) No, DON'T read that naughty post.

I've been thinking the reason it gets to me so much is XOW actually TOLD ME her kid's situation is all my fault, so I got it from the horse's... er... Sigh. Like Jesus said, Satan, get behind me, right?

Okay, go back to having fun! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> At least we got oldbie, midbees, and newbies all posting again! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Cat!

To answer the weather question, and location, we are in Northern Arizona, but have a major heatwave going right now! Here in the mountains, it usually doesn't get about 87 and we have the wonderful breezes. But, with this massive high pressure over the whole western US, it has been record breaking heat with hardly any breeze to speak of! Unfortunately, because of the usually nice weather, it's rare to have AC in your home up here, and we have fans working in each room. But, when it's in the mid 90's, it just seems to move the heat around.

Sailorman is doing well. He's in IL till tomorrow night for some "recruiter refresher" training at boot camp! He missed out on our 13 and 10 yr old playing sword fight which caused the 10 yr old to have 4 stitches(raw spaghetti against a table knife!)

Abbi's next eye appointment is on Monday morning. I will post a new thread about that. Just in case you didn't see the other updates, she's off the bifocals, and just has single vision lenses, and we have been dialating her left(good) eye to force the right eye to work. She does very well with that, as last night, when putting the ointment in, she didn't fight me at all, and that stuff can sting!!!! She is VERY adorable, but that's just me speaking, if you want to see for yourself, you could get my email from Stacia_lee, or she could even send you some of the pics I've sent to her! I love to send pics, so just let me or Stacia_lee know.

Stupid me, should have "replied w/quote", cause I can't remember much else that you'd asked! Like I said before, it's great to see all you guys posting again!!!

Love

Tigger

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> Maybe this is the day that you have been waiting for ever since the CS began! I truly hope you can get the results you seek.

WOW, moving back to your home! That's a major step even tho moving is a hassle! It sounds like you two are making your way back to where you both belong... Great news!

I forgot to tell TexasGirl thanks for this enjoyable thread.

Catnip, as usual you put better thoughts into my head over the e-mail I sent you.
Thanks for your self-esteem building answer.
You come here and tell it like it is from a MB perspective and I love ya for it.

For all the oldies, H and I had a "set-up" run in with OW and her "on again off again - doesn't live here in our state" H.
She began to call me "old" in a crowded place and I just snapped and called her a fat, ugly, dimpled knee, slut.....OHHHHHH.....the owners ,who we didn't even know ,escorted ow and her H out the back door they snuck into and asked them to leave. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

At one point during her yelling she pointed to my H and announced she had an affair and child with him and would anyone like to see the picture? That's when the shocked owners asked them to leave.

My H told her to take her fat as* out of there, and told her H to get her out of there that she was crazy.

We did not use physical violence though Lord knows I wanted to dive on her.

Her younger brother had been there earlier and left. We didn't speak to him. Within 45 min. Ow and her H showed up and we never even saw them come in the back door.

As I went to the ladies room I spotted them and she began to laugh at me. I didn't ignore her but should have. By then my H saw and came to me and all of a sudden a yelling match took over.

Well it blew me away. My H was sick that it happened. Kept saying how sorry he was.

It brought forth a flood of unpleasant memories and I was down for about a week.

A week to the day, ow's other brother's obituary was in the paper( you know, the paper she puts oc's pictuer in for every holiday?). He commited suicide as told to us by a friend who knows them. Left 3 kids.

Since then ow has not been seen as I usually pass her a few times a week in my car.

I ask after all of this time, why won't she leave us the hel* alone? I feel her H was set up too. Probably thought her brother was still there and they were gonna meet him. Her H said NOTHING.... not a word.

Also guised as her 12 year old D, she sent my son an e-mail telling on his parents yadda yadda yadda....we ignored the e-mail and dropped our former IP. Now they can't bother us that way any longer.

WHEW!!! That was huge!
Glad I shared and got it off my chest.

Speaking of chest. Tina71 you aren't too old for twins. They are soooo much fun, especially in summer. It'll give you something else to think about for a while. Go for it girl.

Thanks again Catnip for always making me feel better about things. Thanks for your encouragement over these past few years.

So nice to see oldies posting again. I hope a few more come out of lurking.

XXX
Debi

My dearest Cat,
So good to see you. I too missed my feline friend.

Your comments:

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">THAT is where we differ. It DOES help. During the first 18 months after discovery, pointing out the OW's vast physical imperfections are an excellent therapeutic way of releasing anger, validating oneself as a superior catch (which almost all husbands come to realize) and certainly helped me in my healing process. And I dare say, helped legions of other Betrayeds deal with their mistaken feelings of inadequacy and put them on the path to recovery. (ref: Zebra Baby's hilarious "moustache" thread) It's all in fun and this should be one place where this is occasionally OK as long as we stick to the reasons why we are here and the principles. We have to be able to laugh at our tormentors or they end up being taken too seriously. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You are so right. That period of anger is helped so much by venting about all of the imperfections of the OW. And that thread about my OW's mustache was CLASSIC! Unfortunately, not everyone was amused ... but we can't entertain everyone. LOL

Good luck with court. I too am glad to hear that you and Bi-Polar are doing well. We are great in our new home in our new city. Do you still have my email addy. Please email me so I can tell you all about it in private.

Love,
Z.

ZB:

I lost your e-mail address along with Gem's and Twiisty's and Stacia's in the midst of the move...and I would love to talk to you, too. Did you ever see those drawings of Christ?

I will figure out a way to contact you once I am settled in the house and I have my new server up and running. My e-mail is temporary for now.

Where has Heavenly and Mary Janes been? Is everyone OK as far as you know?

Court is going to be a bust and will explain on my own thread. Thanks for the well wishes nonetheless...talk to you soon.

Love

Cat

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I lost your e-mail address along with Gem's and Twiisty's and Stacia's in the midst of the move... </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey Catnip...wondered why you haven't replied to me!!!
e-mail me at cajun_honeybee@hotmail.com

Hope to catch up...have some new pic's of "the cuteness" a.k.a. Lee Lee for you!

Hugs,
Twiisty

Have you heard from Julia lately? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />