It is wrong to call INNOCENT CHILDREN Spawn peroid!!! ALL CHILDREN ARE A GIFT FROM GOD,regardless how they come to all of us.
I've been reading the posts on this thread tryed not to get upset about Xangels posts but sorry can longer do that, sorry <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/frown.gif" /> I do know they weren't directed to me
Also,Xangel: How do you think you would feel if someone called your children spawn? Wouldn't you be hurt,too?
I do apperciate Honesty but it needs to be done in a less harsh manner.

Angels1966 keep your pants on! Spawn isn't a bad word, excuse me for trying to use my vocabulary. Let me refresh you about the meaning of spawn ok.

Spawn:

1)Offspring occurring in numbers; brood

2)A person who is the issue of a parent or family

3)A product or an outcome

There, buy a clue. Oh and I really don't give a rat's [censored] if someone called my child a spawn, I'd say your right. but my child has been called a [censored] before, so been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

<img border="0" alt="[Teary]" title="" src="graemlins/teary.gif" /> I think I will put you on my prayer list.

Why? Who says I need to be prayed for? Life is good right now. I have God in my life,he's the one that finally got me through my sorrow. When you stop fighting and let God do his will and listen maybe that's when your lives will turn around. Before I get called a hypocrite, I am a good person. Yes I can be argumentative at times, and I don't sugarcoat my words, but I know who I am. Maybe I should put you in my prayers.

XAX,

I have no objection to anyone using their vocabulary, now if only you we could convince you to use a little more compassion, sensitivity and good manners...wow...just think how much easier it might be for people to "hear" you. Maybe you just like talking to yourself...some folks do...but if you're actually interested in folks listening, you might try using that extensive vocab in a more fruitful way....like in a well worded apology.

Oh and don't play dumb and pretend that you aren't aware of the negative implications associated with the word "spawn"...especially after declaring how smart you are. I've got a t shirt too...it says "I see mean people".

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Why? Who says I need to be prayed for? </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Angel - Please. I'm sure it's not meant to offend you. Many people consider it a blessing to be prayed for. Perhaps you don't feel you are in need of it, but really the only gracious response for when someone says they'll pray for you is, "Thank you."

You are a complex and caring individual. You are well spoken and write with a clear idea of what you wish to get across. Please just take such comments at face value, and don't assume inferences that may not be there. Okay?

- Kimmy

PS - The appalling lack of manners that others have shown in the way they speak of your darling child is abhorrent! Your baby is a joy and a gift. (((Angel&Baby)))

Oh and don't play dumb and pretend that you aren't aware of the negative implications associated with the word "spawn"...especially after declaring how smart you are. I've got a t shirt too...it says "I see mean people".

I know what you mean about the negative implications, but I really wasn't trying to imply that they were devil spawn. I was just on a roll with my wording and I can get carried away and spit out alternative words,and stuff. I suppose I didn't have to say spawn since you guys can not hear how I am emphasizing it, and can't help but take it the wrong way. I also know that certain things I say can stir up the dust around here. But hey I just got a new t-shirt it says "Stop being so sensitive"

I know compassion, I also know about tough love, in my own way I try to help by giving some kicks in the pants. Hey it worked on me. If I would of heard things like "Yes your ex will change" Or "Give him another chance" then I might have stayed with him and been miserable, and been making my daughter miserable. I couldn't let her see me cry anymore.

Kimmy thank you. You have a tremendous amount of patience and love to give around. Your words make a little soft spot in my heart.

I know what you mean XAX. I was reading about how 70%! of communication is lost on the internet. No body language, intonation, facial expression, etc....so it's so very easy to be misunderstood. But you have to admit that "spawn" is a pretty strongly negative word to describe children....eek it's usually used for fish and reptillian layings...uck. Not to mention the whole "spawn of hell/devil" and such.

As far as the tough love stuff....I absolutely believe that it is valuable...but again, I'd like to see you find ANYONE (I'm challenging you to find some posts like that)who has advised kimmy that her "h will change" or to "give him another chance". Nope, she's gotten mostly folks who can't understand how she's done it and who mostly worry about her.

Hey, I'm not asking you to change your message anyway....I think it's very valid...all I was commenting on is the harsh wording you use sometimes. So be true...be honest...be authentic...but you can do all that without using words simply for shock value, or "spawning" complaints...hehhehehehe. Besides, "if all you have is a hammer...everything looks like a nail."

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**Makes mental note** (watch words that can add shock value <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> )

Reply taken into consideration.

Carpe Diem <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

Yah I thought spawn was a an interesting word to choose to use in the context you were using it w/ ('in the closet thing') but hey, I'm one of the NOT so sensitive ones.

There's a BIG difference between NOT sugar coating things & using TACT! It would behoove you (xax)to learn it, it has helped my communication skills tremendously when I realized the value of tact. I applaud being honest & straightforward but.....some people ARE sensitive, even if we may not be..we need to recognize THIER sensitivities.
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I am happy for you that you have learned, @ such a rather young age, the importance of relational health, so that in the future if there ever is to be a Mr. XaX, you will have chosen much wiser! Many women (of any age) never learn & keep repeating the same mistakes over & over & over again. It's so sad.
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Hey, I just call the ktbunch what they are: "Freak of my womb" <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> is one of my favorite sayings in our home! LOL We even put a sticker on the back of our car that says Homeschool Freaks! Figured we better claim the title before someone uses it against us! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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(thick-skinned daughter of a HYPER-sensitive mother!)