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I just finished reading a book a couple weeks ago called, "Leadership and Self Deception". It's a modern parable style story. There's a husband/wife illustration in the story that goes through how the husband set the wife up to be at fault; the wife was doing the same thing but the book didn't go into her side of the story very much.
I think you'll see the dynamic that you and your husband have going. I wouldn't recommend you have him read it; he already feels pressure from Steve that he's at fault and he's to blame (which he is - but that's not working to fix the core of the problem right now). But it will help you start to break your patterns of blaming him. It may be scary to take this step because if you let him off the hook and start owning how you set him up, then he gets to do the thing that requires you to sacrifice instead of him. Sacrifice is a destructive thing in your marriage. For either of you.
I realize that the travel thing is non-negotiable. With the exception of traveling to a manufacturing facility for training, I don't see why a car salesman ever has to leave home. EVER. He's not the one hired by the company to go out to auctions to find used cars. So he has no reason to travel. He's volunteering for extra duty because he has discovered that he has an emotional need to travel. It's the only way to explain how his taker took over and forced you to sacrifice your emotional need for him to NOT travel.
He can't speak to his desires because you are so very against it. He feels he can't be true to his aspirations because you've taken it off the table. He fears divorce because of children and love for you, but that love becomes less and less with each sacrifice he makes.
So while travel is non-negotiable for you, what is it for him? Do you love him enough to dare ask the question and be civil as you discuss the root causes of this betrayal?
A wise man speaking to a very large congregation about marriage said that we try to give others the benefit of a doubt, yet ascribe the worst of intentions to our spouse. "Assume the Good and Doubt the Bad".
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I think if you want to save your marriage, you should find a way to ascribe the best of intentions to your husband instead of the worst. Even if his behavior seems to have the worst of intentions toward you, it may be that his own emotional needs which you are not meeting, either by intention or ignorance - have gone unmet for so long that his taker is in full control.
If you want to recover your marriage, it's time you start looking at the withdrawals your own needs are making on him. Start from there and see what happens.
The tough thing right now is the lack of ability to POJA on this issue puts you at odds with each other's emotional needs. It requires one of you to sacrifice. Right now, your husband seems to be at an emotional extremity, so he forced the sacrifice you are asking him to make, back on you by taking the choice out of your hands.
Sacrifice puts your marriage at risk. Neither of you should sacrifice.
Cafe Plan B link
http://forum.marriagebuilders.com/ubbt/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=2182650&page=1 The ? that made recovery possible: "Which lovebuster do I do the most that hurts the worst"?
The statement that signaled my personal recovery and the turning point in our marriage recovery: "I don't need to be married that badly!"
If you're
interested in saving your relationship, you'll work on it when it's convenient. If you're
committed , you'll accept no excuses.
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DaisyTheCat2
03/01/11 04:08 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
03/01/11 04:31 PM
Re: Duped
Fireproof
03/01/11 10:39 PM
Re: Duped
Ariel
04/27/11 07:00 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
04/27/11 08:18 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/02/11 06:29 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
05/02/11 06:45 PM
Re: Duped
Penni4Thoughts
05/02/11 06:55 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/02/11 07:41 PM
Re: Duped
Penni4Thoughts
05/02/11 07:52 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/02/11 08:10 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
05/02/11 11:25 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/02/11 11:29 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
05/03/11 02:38 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/03/11 06:04 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
05/03/11 09:36 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
05/03/11 09:59 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/03/11 10:25 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
05/03/11 10:44 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 02:36 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/04/11 03:43 PM
Re: Duped
wannabophim
05/04/11 03:53 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/04/11 04:08 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:16 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/04/11 04:21 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:37 PM
Re: Duped
inrecoverynow
05/05/11 03:56 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/05/11 06:16 PM
Re: Duped
Retread
05/06/11 04:42 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 11:12 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 11:43 AM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 12:28 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 12:49 PM
Re: Duped
wannabophim
05/06/11 01:43 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 02:26 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 02:47 PM
Re: Duped
Prisca
05/06/11 02:46 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 02:51 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 03:48 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 05:27 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 05:36 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 05:51 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 05:53 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 06:02 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 06:23 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 06:37 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 05:51 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
05/06/11 08:16 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 08:36 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
05/06/11 08:56 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
05/06/11 02:31 PM
Re: Duped
inrecoverynow
05/06/11 02:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 03:02 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 03:14 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 03:17 PM
Re: Duped
Prisca
05/06/11 03:31 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/06/11 06:00 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 06:05 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/06/11 06:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 06:24 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 06:38 PM
Re: Duped
Viscountess
05/06/11 07:20 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 07:30 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 07:37 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 07:45 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 07:54 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/07/11 08:33 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/08/11 04:13 AM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/08/11 04:55 AM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/08/11 05:42 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
05/08/11 07:33 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/09/11 01:51 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/09/11 02:00 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
05/09/11 03:39 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/09/11 04:06 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
05/09/11 09:27 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/10/11 12:40 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/10/11 03:37 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/10/11 03:54 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
05/10/11 06:34 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/11/11 01:36 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/11/11 05:50 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/11/11 08:07 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/09/11 04:03 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
05/11/11 02:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/11/11 08:21 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/11/11 08:23 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/15/11 07:31 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/15/11 08:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/31/11 10:07 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 12:06 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 12:19 AM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 12:37 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 12:50 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 03:22 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/01/11 11:52 AM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/01/11 02:36 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 05:37 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 06:35 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 06:55 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 06:58 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:09 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 07:38 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:47 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 07:54 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:06 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/01/11 06:44 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/01/11 06:45 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:30 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:37 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 06:53 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 07:55 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/01/11 08:01 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 08:28 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 08:20 PM
Re: Duped
Prisca
06/01/11 08:27 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 09:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 09:59 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 10:00 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/01/11 10:37 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/01/11 08:50 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/01/11 09:03 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/01/11 10:55 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/02/11 12:07 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/02/11 04:45 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/02/11 06:40 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/02/11 07:33 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
06/02/11 08:50 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/02/11 09:37 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/03/11 04:33 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/03/11 04:42 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/03/11 05:16 PM
Re: Duped
NeverGuessed
06/03/11 10:45 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/11 02:02 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/04/11 02:16 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/11 02:45 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/04/11 04:32 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/11 05:09 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/15/11 06:07 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/16/11 02:58 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/16/11 04:00 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/16/11 11:17 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/16/11 02:30 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/16/11 02:50 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/16/11 03:33 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/16/11 04:04 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/17/11 03:26 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/17/11 10:52 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/17/11 03:49 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/18/11 06:57 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/18/11 03:48 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/19/11 11:25 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/19/11 04:16 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/19/11 11:54 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 12:26 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/20/11 02:10 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 12:51 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
06/04/11 05:07 PM
Re: Duped
wifetobe
05/06/11 07:24 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 07:34 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 07:39 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/06/11 07:44 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/06/11 08:13 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/06/11 02:49 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 02:53 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/06/11 03:36 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/06/11 06:10 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:11 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:06 PM
Re: Duped
Enlightened_Ex
05/04/11 04:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:51 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 04:38 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 04:59 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 05:17 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 05:32 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 05:38 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 06:16 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 05:19 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 05:27 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 05:36 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 06:04 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
05/09/11 01:01 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
05/04/11 05:34 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 06:19 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/04/11 07:12 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 07:36 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 07:44 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 08:22 PM
Re: Duped
markos
05/04/11 08:44 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/04/11 09:50 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
05/04/11 11:55 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/05/11 12:38 AM
Re: Duped
Prisca
05/03/11 09:51 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
05/03/11 09:52 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
05/02/11 07:13 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
01/14/11 03:42 AM
Re: Duped
writer1
01/03/11 08:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
01/03/11 08:53 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
01/03/11 08:59 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
01/03/11 09:10 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
01/03/11 09:22 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
01/03/11 09:35 PM
Re: Duped
Deacon_Blues
01/04/11 12:25 AM
Re: Duped
Tawandabelle
01/04/11 01:06 AM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
01/04/11 03:51 PM
Re: Duped
markos
01/03/11 10:11 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
01/03/11 07:03 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
01/03/11 07:11 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
01/03/11 07:15 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
01/03/11 08:01 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
01/03/11 07:15 PM
Re: Duped
ManResa
12/31/10 11:19 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
12/31/10 12:37 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
12/17/10 08:21 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
12/17/10 07:48 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
12/17/10 08:02 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
12/17/10 06:05 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
12/17/10 06:05 PM
Re: Duped
Gdar
12/15/10 05:01 PM
Re: Duped
Gdar
12/14/10 07:50 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
12/08/10 10:22 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
12/08/10 10:26 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
12/09/10 12:57 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
12/09/10 01:20 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/11/10 08:39 PM
Re: Duped
markos
11/11/10 08:51 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/11/10 08:54 PM
Re: Duped
lousygolfer
11/11/10 02:56 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/11/10 03:23 PM
Re: Duped
LostandLooking
06/20/11 06:51 PM
Re: Duped
LostandLooking
06/20/11 06:55 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 06:59 PM
Re: Duped
LostandLooking
06/20/11 08:27 PM
Re: Duped
LostandLooking
06/20/11 08:32 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 09:29 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 10:46 PM
Re: Duped
Penni4Thoughts
06/20/11 10:50 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/23/11 09:59 PM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
06/24/11 01:01 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/25/11 10:38 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/28/11 12:58 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/28/11 03:03 AM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
06/29/11 11:05 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/30/11 03:06 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/30/11 06:22 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/30/11 09:20 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/30/11 09:40 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/30/11 09:44 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/30/11 10:17 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/30/11 10:55 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
07/01/11 05:05 AM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
07/05/11 07:14 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
07/12/11 01:19 AM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
07/12/11 02:26 AM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
07/12/11 06:04 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
07/15/11 03:29 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/08/11 08:00 PM
Re: Duped
markos
08/08/11 08:16 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
08/08/11 08:18 PM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
08/09/11 09:27 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
08/09/11 11:58 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/26/11 09:40 PM
Re: Duped
kerala
08/26/11 10:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/27/11 02:50 PM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
08/28/11 12:23 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/28/11 01:08 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
08/28/11 03:47 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/30/11 01:41 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
08/31/11 01:03 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
09/06/11 07:45 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
09/06/11 10:05 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
09/06/11 10:06 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
09/07/11 06:24 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
09/07/11 07:04 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/11/11 08:56 PM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
10/11/11 11:08 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/12/11 02:43 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/12 08:32 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
06/04/12 09:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/12 10:45 PM
Re: Duped
optimism
06/04/12 11:05 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/12 11:13 PM
Re: Duped
SmilingWoman
06/04/12 11:12 PM
Re: Duped
SugarCane
06/04/12 11:19 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/04/12 11:58 PM
Re: Duped
BrainHurts
06/05/12 12:34 AM
Re: Duped
kerala
06/05/12 01:06 AM
Re: Duped
SugarCane
06/05/12 01:07 AM
Re: Duped
MelodyLane
06/05/12 01:14 AM
Re: Duped
markos
06/05/12 02:28 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/05/12 05:29 PM
Re: Duped
tismeagain
06/05/12 10:58 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/19/12 08:11 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
06/21/12 12:14 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
08/27/12 01:09 AM
Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/13/12 06:36 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
markos
10/13/12 09:40 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Surfer88
10/13/12 10:40 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Surfer88
10/13/12 10:44 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/13/12 11:20 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Surfer88
10/14/12 12:09 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/14/12 12:30 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Surfer88
10/14/12 12:37 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Surfer88
10/14/12 12:35 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
BrainHurts
10/14/12 12:38 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/14/12 03:26 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/14/12 03:23 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/14/12 04:17 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/14/12 04:42 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/14/12 05:20 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/14/12 06:06 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/14/12 06:44 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
HoldHerHand
10/15/12 12:16 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
BrainHurts
10/15/12 02:01 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
pokerface
10/15/12 02:12 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/15/12 02:30 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 03:00 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 10:00 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
HeartsSong
10/15/12 10:19 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 10:36 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 11:11 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 11:41 AM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 12:11 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 12:33 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 01:16 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/15/12 02:24 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:34 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:42 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
pokerface
10/15/12 02:42 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:44 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:49 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:52 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
Viscountess
10/15/12 03:10 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 03:22 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/15/12 03:25 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 03:29 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/15/12 03:31 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/15/12 05:16 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/17/12 03:25 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
markos
10/17/12 04:15 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 03:00 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
pokerface
10/15/12 01:20 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:16 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/15/12 02:32 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/14/12 07:49 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
MelodyLane
10/14/12 07:53 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
CWMI
10/14/12 09:02 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
lookin4thehandle
10/14/12 11:32 PM
Re: Boundary issue, weird situation, want advice
pokerface
10/15/12 12:02 AM
Re: Duped
BrainHurts
06/05/12 01:43 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/05/12 02:44 AM
Re: Duped
HoldHerHand
06/05/12 07:14 AM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
07/01/11 01:54 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
07/01/11 01:52 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
07/01/11 02:17 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
06/20/11 06:55 PM
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ivy45
10/01/10 10:09 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/01/10 11:17 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/01/10 11:21 PM
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kilted_thrower
10/01/10 11:23 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/02/10 12:04 AM
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wannatry
10/02/10 12:24 AM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/02/10 08:15 AM
Re: Duped
lostlovinfeeling
10/02/10 11:50 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/02/10 01:58 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/02/10 02:21 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/02/10 04:46 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/02/10 05:13 PM
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CWMI
10/02/10 06:16 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/02/10 07:02 PM
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CWMI
10/02/10 07:42 PM
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NewEveryDay
10/02/10 08:29 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/02/10 09:07 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/02/10 10:04 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/03/10 01:37 AM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/03/10 01:44 AM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/03/10 04:36 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/03/10 06:35 PM
Re: Duped
HerPapaBear
10/03/10 08:29 PM
Re: Duped
Telly
10/03/10 09:57 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/03/10 10:47 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 01:15 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/04/10 12:47 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/04/10 06:40 PM
Re: Duped
sunnydaze53
10/04/10 06:46 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/04/10 07:08 PM
Re: Duped
kerala
10/04/10 08:38 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 09:12 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 08:59 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/04/10 09:34 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 10:19 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 10:33 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/04/10 11:06 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 11:51 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/05/10 02:33 AM
Re: Duped
kerala
10/05/10 02:36 AM
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RareMamaJewel
10/05/10 02:39 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/05/10 02:44 AM
Re: Duped
kerala
10/05/10 02:57 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/05/10 03:12 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/05/10 03:16 AM
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markos
10/05/10 11:44 AM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/05/10 01:19 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/05/10 01:25 PM
Re: Duped
inrecoverynow
10/05/10 02:37 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/05/10 05:14 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/05/10 09:21 PM
Re: Duped
markos
10/06/10 05:45 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 06:10 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/06/10 06:37 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 07:07 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/06/10 07:11 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 07:16 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 07:18 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/06/10 07:19 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 07:32 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/06/10 08:10 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 08:23 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/06/10 09:56 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/06/10 11:35 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/06/10 11:49 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/07/10 12:16 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 12:56 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
10/07/10 01:03 PM
Re: Duped
HerPapaBear
10/07/10 01:54 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/07/10 01:33 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 02:31 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/07/10 02:35 PM
Re: Duped
inrecoverynow
10/07/10 04:12 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/07/10 01:44 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/07/10 01:50 PM
Re: Duped
Gerberdaisies
10/07/10 05:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 07:22 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/07/10 07:31 PM
Re: Duped
wannabophim
10/07/10 08:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 09:36 PM
Re: Duped
bitbucket
10/08/10 12:30 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/08/10 06:03 PM
Re: Duped
Telly
10/11/10 07:07 PM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
10/11/10 11:52 PM
Re: Duped
lousygolfer
10/12/10 01:34 AM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/12/10 02:39 AM
Re: Duped
markos
10/12/10 04:30 AM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/12/10 03:22 PM
Re: Duped
bitbucket
10/12/10 03:41 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/12/10 04:10 PM
Re: Duped
markos
10/12/10 04:49 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/12/10 04:55 PM
Re: Duped
markos
10/12/10 08:14 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
10/21/10 08:24 PM
Re: Duped
Gdar
10/21/10 09:13 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/22/10 04:02 PM
Re: Duped
DaisyTheCat2
10/22/10 04:22 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/22/10 05:22 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/22/10 07:34 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/22/10 07:50 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/22/10 11:26 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/22/10 08:12 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/22/10 08:48 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/22/10 11:31 PM
Re: Duped
lousygolfer
10/23/10 02:53 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/23/10 05:26 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/23/10 06:57 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/23/10 07:51 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/23/10 09:31 PM
Re: Duped
lousygolfer
10/25/10 12:54 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/25/10 03:00 PM
Re: Duped
sunnydaze53
10/25/10 03:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 06:46 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/25/10 07:39 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 08:33 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
10/25/10 09:06 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 09:56 PM
Re: Duped
bitbucket
10/25/10 10:09 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 10:19 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/25/10 09:17 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 09:53 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
10/25/10 11:00 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
10/25/10 11:23 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/07/10 07:43 PM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
11/07/10 09:46 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
11/08/10 12:40 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/08/10 09:51 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
11/08/10 10:00 PM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
11/08/10 11:44 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 02:13 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 02:16 AM
Re: Duped
Happy2CU
11/09/10 08:33 AM
Re: Duped
Jackblack
11/09/10 10:33 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 12:16 PM
Re: Duped
NewEveryDay
11/09/10 12:29 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 12:47 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
11/09/10 02:58 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 05:05 PM
Re: Duped
kilted_thrower
11/09/10 05:27 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 05:48 PM
Re: Duped
Telly
11/09/10 09:01 PM
Re: Duped
kerala
11/09/10 09:17 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 09:34 PM
Re: Duped
Jackblack
11/09/10 09:59 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 10:56 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
11/09/10 11:08 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 11:15 PM
Re: Duped
kerala
11/09/10 11:20 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 11:33 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
11/09/10 11:21 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 01:19 AM
Re: Duped
Telly
11/10/10 02:41 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 03:18 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 03:32 AM
Re: Duped
writer1
11/10/10 03:40 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 04:04 AM
Re: Duped
writer1
11/10/10 04:09 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 04:27 AM
Re: Duped
Bubbles4U
11/10/10 08:31 AM
Re: Duped
barbiecat
11/10/10 03:44 PM
Re: Duped
markos
11/10/10 05:45 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/10/10 11:04 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
11/10/10 11:29 PM
Re: Duped
barbiecat
11/11/10 04:21 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/11/10 04:23 PM
Re: Duped
barbiecat
11/11/10 04:25 PM
Re: Duped
barbiecat
11/11/10 05:43 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/11/10 06:13 PM
Re: Duped
kerala
11/09/10 10:20 PM
Re: Duped
holdingontoit
11/09/10 10:42 PM
Re: Duped
inrecoverynow
11/09/10 03:15 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
11/09/10 05:22 PM
Re: Duped
Telly
11/09/10 04:57 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 06:43 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/25/10 10:27 PM
Re: Duped
writer1
10/25/10 10:39 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 09:19 PM
Re: Duped
markos
10/07/10 09:32 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/07/10 09:50 PM
Re: Duped
Vibrissa
10/07/10 09:56 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/05/10 02:56 AM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/05/10 02:06 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/05/10 02:27 AM
Re: Duped
MelodyLane
10/04/10 11:29 PM
Re: Duped
MelodyLane
10/04/10 11:33 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/04/10 06:45 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/02/10 12:19 AM
Re: Duped
Tawandabelle
10/02/10 12:25 AM
Re: Duped
wannatry
10/02/10 12:26 AM
Re: Duped
HerPapaBear
10/02/10 02:21 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/02/10 02:30 PM
Re: Duped
upandrunning
10/02/10 04:30 AM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/02/10 02:35 PM
Re: Duped
wannatry
10/02/10 02:46 PM
Re: Duped
CWMI
10/02/10 02:57 PM
Re: Duped
wannatry
10/02/10 03:05 PM
Re: Duped
RareMamaJewel
10/02/10 02:56 PM
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