</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Brit's Brat:
<strong>Hey Spaceguy on the Southside,

This sounds encouraging!! I think it was the new cologne!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Just go slow.... let her do the work here.

The Brat on the Northside
(who will someday post her story and seek input....)</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey, BB!
Definitely! It was the cologne!
And yes, you need to post your story... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

ya know supposedly there's cologne out that has pheromones in thats supposed to attract the opposite sex, anyone ever use this stuff??

<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I do worry about some of the friends you have here on this site. Does your wife know? Perhaps that is one reason she is so upset with you sometimes. You should be more careful. Didn't your mother ever warn you?

Don't worry too much about hurting our feelings, we kind of like you -

So, cold pizza again? No wonder you don't understand simple stuff like communicating in marriage. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">SS; You know, I worry about some of them too. But I figure as long as they're here, they'll stay out of trouble! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

And it's funny you say that about my W; she DID get upset with me about MB! When I asked her who she was emailing about "us", she screamed that she also had the right to talk to someone, after all, I spent hours chatting about "us" with all my friends on MB! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> LOL!!!

No, no cold pizza. Tonight was special: a warm, fresh Quizno's and Doritos! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> ya know supposedly there's cologne out that has pheromones in thats supposed to attract the opposite sex, anyone ever use this stuff??
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I read (I think here) that it won't work on a WS.

Here be the linky to one company... (www.love-scent.com)

ST

I just got off the phone with my W, she's actually called me 3 times today, to ask computer questions.

But now, she told me "I had planned for us to have a talk, but now I think we both need a few more days, to think about things, and not have this hanging over us, and we'll talk then, OK?"

Since I'm not supposed to know we were going to talk, I said; "We were set up to talk?"

And she said; "No, but I told Steve that we would talk, but I need a few days, he's been pushing me too hard, and I need a few days. Is that OK?"

And I said "Sure, just let me know when you'd like to do it. By the way we have an appointment with Steve on bla, bla bla."

I believe she had a conversation with our friend psychologist tonight, and maybe they decided that it was not the right time for this, who knows? I'm just speculating about that.

So...what now? Hang loose, wait and see whan/if she decides to have the "talk", in the meantime still in Semi-B, some contact...call with Steve on Monday...life goes on...rats!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Spacecase:
<strong>I just got off the phone with my W, she's actually called me 3 times today, to ask computer questions.!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I love this...I really do! She had to put forth the effort to contact you when in the past you were really available to solve all of her computer needs. Just a small dose of reality!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong>But now, she told me "I had planned for us to have a talk, but now I think we both need a few more days, to think about things, and not have this hanging over us, and we'll talk then, OK?"

Since I'm not supposed to know we were going to talk, I said; "We were set up to talk?"

And she said; "No, but I told Steve that we would talk, but I need a few days, he's been pushing me too hard, and I need a few days. Is that OK?"!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I love it when SH is the bad guy! Poor W...pushed too hard!! I hear that from H alot!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"><strong>And I said "Sure, just let me know when you'd like to do it. By the way we have an appointment with Steve on bla, bla bla."

I believe she had a conversation with our friend psychologist tonight, and maybe they decided that it was not the right time for this, who knows? I'm just speculating about that.!</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">So...what now? Hang loose, wait and see whan/if she decides to have the "talk", in the meantime still in Semi-B, some contact...call with Steve on Monday...life goes on...rats![/QB][/QUOTE]

Space you deserve the icon for "Joe Cool"...the guy with the dark glasses! CSue

Thanks CSue; you make it all sound like it's great, and I needed that. I'm actually pretty bummed. I hate this up and down thing, hate it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/mad.gif" />

I get ready to "go dark", then that's out cause now she's wanting to talk, OK so we prepare for THAT, and now, that's on hold...what's next!?!?!? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" />

Joe Cool? I don't think so! That's Pep! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> Ms. Cool! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

Geez! Do they ALL do this c--p?!

She just emails me and says "I'm sorry about all the tech support calls. I'm sorry, I don't want you to think that's all I call you for. But yesterday and today have been hard and you're the one who knows this stuff"

HELLO!!! Have you called me for anything else?! NO! So why not just leave it at that?! Just baiting me...she KNOWS that'll annoy me!

To avoid any potential nastiness, I just answered "No problem."

Space,
I think it's great that she called you 3 times today! My WS is doing the same thing. I do so want to have the big "relationship" talk with him, but I must be patient and wait on him.
Hopefully, I'm filling some of his love bank when he calls and stops by!
It sounds like your WW just can't quite let go of you! The plot thickens.
Wow, never a dull moment around here.
Take care. Enjoy the peace and quiet.
KK

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAM!! sorry had to break the silence

HELLO!!! Have you called me for anything else?! NO! So why not just leave it at that?! Just baiting me...she KNOWS that'll annoy me!

ya know, just when one starts reeling the other one, the stupid line breaks!!

I don't know, KK. According to Steve NO PLAN A during the pre-go-dark Plan B phase...so it's almost uncomfortable to run into her, or talk to her, I can't really be nice because that would involve a lot of darlin' and ILY's and sweetie, etc. and if I don't, then it's all business, which is probably an LB...I don't know!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> I'm just a guy, darnit' barely evolved from a caveman, and I'm supposed to know all this relationship/communications stuff! Gimme a break! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

The problem with enjoying the "peace and quiet", as you call it, is that I LIKE THIS!!! Catch all the ballgames, no fighting about having to change to Law & Order in the 9th inning, bases loaded, 2 outs and 2 strikes! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> I can leave my clothes lyin' around a bit....eat more Snickers than I should...THIS IS REALLY COOL!!! Next thing you know, 2L's coming in with a keg!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> we'll have the whole hotel hoppin'!!! Yeeeee-Haw, baby! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

SC:

"HELLO!!! Have you called me for anything else?! NO! So why not just leave it at that?! Just baiting me...she KNOWS that'll annoy me!
To avoid any potential nastiness, I just answered "No problem.""

This was EXACTLY the RIGHT RESPONSE! You couldn't have said it better if you hadn't replied at all!

Remember, she KNOWS what she needs to do for you to come home.

2L; You know? This is REALLY BAD TIME for you to be having all that work, conference in Phoenix, interview trip and vacation. It just ain't right!

Here I am, all alone in a hotel room, and you're off doing all this "stuff"...just ain't right, my friend! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

I AM kidding, although I do miss your posts and keeping the humor up all by m'self...its just a heavy burden to bear! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

Besides, you're missing some classics! There was one about this new NASA project to launch a fog-killer satellite called "the spacecase"...I mean, this is important stuff, man!

<small>[ August 14, 2002, 10:51 PM: Message edited by: Spacecase ]</small>

Woke up with this thought; I was supposed to have "gone dark" in Plan B by now, only I didn't because my W said to Steve that she was "going to talk to me" and Steve felt that she may have been ready for a major step.

So now she calls me and tells me she was going to talk to me, but she's not ready, and that Steve is pushing her too hard, that she needs a few more days.

So OK, I mean, no big deal. Wish she'd do it now, but a few more days? No problem.

But, she's also been coming at me with her computer problems, and she's got one that has been around for a while, but now it's gotten worse, and I suspect it'll take at least a day and 1/2 of work to fix.

Only, I don't really feel like doing it for her. After all, I left home to remove myself from the pain of her on-going A, but I also left to deprive her of those needs I'd been fulfilling, among them ALL the stuff I did for her.

So, while I wait for her "talk", and Steve's next session, and deciding if it's time to "go dark", should I do this for her or not? And if not, how do I tell her?

Would sending her something like this as a "heads-up" perhaps "incent" her to have that talk with me, or at least make her seriously think about it?
Would it somehow damage or affect the posture of a Plan B letter if that was sent a few days later? (If we decide that's the right thing to do). Could this maybe be the last bell before the Plan B letter and going dark?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> I think you should start thinking about finding other ways to take care of the things I have taken care of for you in the past. I am moving on with my life, to my new life. My old life and our marriage ended the day you decided to start your latest affair. It has been my hope and my wish that you would join me in creating a new life and a new marriage for us for nearly one year, 12 months. But sadly, you have chosen not to. If you should choose to do that now, there is still a chance that we may be able to do it together. At some point, that chance may not be there again. I am truly, truly sorry, I have given just about all I can give in terms of time and understanding, and it has been too painful for me. I have to move on, hopefully with you, or sadly without you, to my new life. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

<small>[ August 15, 2002, 04:16 AM: Message edited by: Spacecase ]</small>

Space,

IMHO:

I think I heard a fog horn. Bad signs space. SH is very convincing and I believe now that she might have been just telling SH what he wanted to here. Too much for her too fast. That is probably why she needed a break. Rome was not built in a day. I think your WW was in NO-SPACECASE-Shock, no more, no less. WW was telling you what you wanted to here too. She does not know what she wants now, and she is very confused. She does need this time to think and to feel what life is without spacecase. Do not fix her computer. Let her find someone else.

I have some recommendations:
1) Plan B letter today.
2) Take a day off from everything and do something you enjoy today. You need a break. I see through the post times that you live at this MB site. There is more to life then your WW and this site. Find it and repair yourself during this Plan B time. God knows I need to do the same.

Well, can you wait til Monday?

I think you could go either way here. If you feel you REALLY need to "go dark" now, I think it would be OK. If you're very near LB'ing, that's a sign. If you can control the LB'ing, and give her some time (til Monday and talk to Steve), 4 more days won't hurt.

THere's no turning back after PLan B, so you need to be sure. If you can relax a bit, bite your tongue, and wait til Monday, I think that's best.

But we'll support you if you can't wait.

I'd really hesitate to go to full Plan B before consulting w/Steve on Monday.

What if I send her and email, let her know I'll work on her pc, but that she should think about finding an alternate method, etc. The note I composed and posted...?

I could also just send that note and NOT work on her pc...?

Thoughts?

SC:

"There was one about this new NASA project to launch a fog-killer satellite called "the spacecase"...I mean, this is important stuff, man!"

Saw that one. Face it, SC, by the time you dealt with budget cuts and descope options, you'd be lucky if your spacecraft could MEASURE the optical opacity of the fog. It might be possible to "kill" the fog with the right kind of microwave radiation, but you'd sterilize the planet in the process. ...perhaps a small price to pay, though? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

SC,
I thought you'd get a kick out of that one!

What do you think? Send the note/don't?, fix her pc/don't?

SC, DL:

"Do not fix her computer. Let her find someone else."

Yeah. Like maybe ship it to FL for repairs. Maybe she could get a personalized license plate at the same time.