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Hi all: I'm 2long's bigsis, and once in awhile I check in here to see how he's doing (Ok 2long?). It's a bigsis thing.
I can't comment a lot because I'm not married and what the he!! would I know?
I love the support you give each other. I see that it helps and I see you all making progress and thinking.
Spacecase, Pepperband, you are 2cool.
Oh! And Pepperband, not nutz, but you read just like you should--interacting with text! Sorry, had to get that in--that's what I try to get my students to do.
I'm so old I'm still WEARING the shoes that are older than you guys.

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Wow...I didn't even know they HAD shoes back then.

ROTFLMAO!!

Hey, I remember those keycard computers. My dad was in college then and I would tag along with. He used to take them home and we used them as bookmarks. Pretty crazy....

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Yeah, I would have to say things are going okay. I'd like them to be a lot BETTER than OK, though! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> At least Rat Meat sent his reconstructed report to the office a couple of days ago, and the overall report will need to be completed in the next couple of weeks. I am having to make sure I don't get my hopes up that my W will offer NC soon, because so far she hasn't said anything about it (but she HAS remarked at how much calmer I've been the past few weeks). I did notice I was feeling down the other night, and realized that was why, so I'm being careful not to expect too much. Wish something would happen before that inteview on the 28th, because I know now that I'm on a 4-person short list for 3 jobs, so odds are pretty high they'll offer me a job. At least I'll have a few months to reply.

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Doncha just love Prozac!

Personal question ... has it affected your libido ... either increased or decreased?

I started *vitimin P* a few months ago (post 9/11 blues and insomnia and other symptoms related to menopause).

I found an increased libido as an unexpected side effect!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Maybe that's simply because I am sleeping so much better.

Just asking ... feel free to ignore this rude question! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

Pep <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />

P.S. Bigsis .... did you torture 2Long when you were growing up? I used to torture my baby bro by pulling his ears .... bro loves me big time... and his ears look better after all that pulling!

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Hi 2long: Keep doing what you're doing. I can see it's making a difference in how you feel about things. It's going to pay off, I know it, and things will be more than OK because you will be.
Again, you all are terrific! and my bro is as loveable as he seems in print. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
Just wanted to say howdy back and try using those graemlins! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Pepperband:
<strong>Passionate Marriage is NOT an easy book to read. I've read it more than twice ... but less than three times <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ... and it penetrates my conscious mind in a different way each time. I am a "high-lighter" reader underlining passages... no one could borrow my books because I write notes all over the inside and make comments and ask MYSELF questions ... I am certifiably nutz.

What are your recreational reading preferences Space? Give me an idea of the type of reading you enjoy.

Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Too funny! I do almost exactly the same thing to books! Hilight, Notes, check-marks! Drives my W nuts! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> (I often buy her another copy if I'd like her to read it...it'll cause me no end of grief not to! LOL!!!)

Recreational reading...well, I haven't been doing much of that lately, although I did get that I-Ching book...my preference is History, in particular central asia and india (of late), WWII POW and spy stories, and spy/action novels; Clancy, Alistair Maclean, Len Deighton...big, big fascination with spies, cold-war, intrigue, and also financial/business novels.

That was probably MUCH more than you wanted to know, huh? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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Hey BigSis!!! Love to have you back! 2L's been behavin'... kinda'! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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Pep:
Me, torture?? Of course not! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> ...though 2long may have a different story. His is probably exaggerated, of course.
(He ate mud when he was little--always interested in the scientific method. I have pictures.)
Once 2long introduced me and another sis to science friends. He said, "Here are 2 of my 4 sisters."
I had to correct him, "No, 2long, you have 3 sisters."
"No," he pointed out, "YOU have 3 sisters, I have 4."
Laughs on me! 'Course, that just shows I always thought he was one of us.
Gotta go. Take care, you all. bigsis

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Pepster:

"Doncha just love Prozac!
Personal question ... has it affected your libido ... either increased or decreased?"

Hm... I don't think I've noticed a difference.

"I started *vitimin P* a few months ago (post 9/11 blues and insomnia and other symptoms related to menopause)."

I'm worried a little about mentalpause myself. When it happens, though, I expect I'll stop and think about it some...

9/11 was a shocker. After 10/19, when our house burned, I forgot about 9/11. On D-day, I forgot about 10/19. So now, when my W says she's stressed out over the house, I find myself not able to understand what the Big Deal is.

"P.S. Bigsis .... did you torture 2Long when you were growing up?"

He!! yeah, she tortued me!! So did my other three sisters!!! (I don't have any brothers, but my sisters do).

"I used to torture my baby bro by pulling his ears .... bro loves me big time... and his ears look better after all that pulling!""

I used to hit my sisters with my toy guns, which at the time were made out of metal. So my folks stopped buying them for me. Then, I broke the door to my bedroom by slamming it too hard, so my dad took it off and I lived without a door (changed behind my dresser) until we moved. THEN he replaced the door!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

<small>[ August 16, 2002, 03:49 PM: Message edited by: 2long ]</small>

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> Pepper:
P.S. Bigsis .... did you torture 2Long when you were growing up? I used to torture my baby bro by pulling his ears .... bro loves me big time... and his ears look better after all that pulling!
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Most definitely! Even if she won't admit it! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> You don't get to be THAT weird just naturally, y'know? Colored shoes, warped sense of humor...BigSis was probably worse that you, Pep!!! 2L will probably need years of IC AFTER he gets over this hump!!! LOL!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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2L; 4 sisters!!! No Brothers!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> no wonder you're a mess!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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See? That's what I've been telling people ALL MY LIFE! NOTHING is my fault! (unless it's a good thing, then I will cheerfully accept accolades).

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<img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> MUD-EATER <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" />

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Oh, my! I just realized something! I am one of 3 brothers (no sisters) and the middle one at that! PLUS, I'm one of 15 cousins, only 2 of which are female...you think maybe that's why I don't have a clue how to communicate with my W?
No, can't be! I was very successful with the chicks when I was young...'course I wasn't married to any of them...oh, heck, I don't know! It was just a thought! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />

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Pepper:

See? Even then, I was focusing in on sedimentary geology. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" />

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"Oh, my! I just realized something! I am one of 3 brothers (no sisters) and the middle one at that!"

I'm in the middle of them 4 sisters! I've suffered FAR more than you (and I'm a lot older than you, too!)

"you think maybe that's why I don't have a clue how to communicate with my W?"

Yes, SC, I do. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

"No, can't be! I was very successful with the chicks when I was young...'course I wasn't married to any of them...oh, heck, I don't know! It was just a thought!"

just remember to keep those thoughts to yourself!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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Space,

I am happy to see that this is such a jovial group of people today!!

I have 2 sisters and have long thought that the reason I had trouble communicating with men was because I had no brothers. Just my dad who would never talk about "unpleasantries" which was just about anything meaningful. Anything more serious than the latest weather pattern made him very uncomfortable. He's a great dad but just don't plan to talk with him about "feelings". He'll show you how he feels!!

So I decided the solution to this was to choose a male counselor to see if he could give me insight on why I have trouble communicating with men. That didn't seem to work because I had no trouble communicating with him because I wasn't in a relationship with him!

So what happened? I have 2 boys ages 8 & 9! NOW I am starting to figure out why men are they way they are!! It's all becoming perfectly clear; and actually seeing how they develop...I wonder how and why they become civilized. Just this week we had trama in the classroom when my 9 year old refused to pick a seat on the first day of school. It was becoming very uncomfortable as the teacher was shooting H & I dagger looks as son's agony went on...... Finally he chose a seat. After school I asked him..WHat was the problem?

Problem was 2 of the 3 seats available were NEXT TO GIRLS! The last seat was next to a boy he knew but just on the OTHER side of the classroom from his best friend. He would have had to sit next to a girl eeeewwwww...in order to be near his best friend; and he just couldn't pay that price.

I am the only girl they will have anything to do with. I appear to be exempt! This is where my "boy" education stops! Which leaves me with a whole lot more to learn obviously! CSue

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CSue:

"and actually seeing how they develop...I wonder how and why they become civilized."

Um... ...we don't! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" />

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> CSue:
I am the only girl they will have anything to do with. I appear to be exempt! This is where my "boy" education stops! Which leaves me with a whole lot more to learn obviously! CSue
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">CSue, you have NOTHING to worry about! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> By the time they are 13-14-15, and the hormones take over their brains (they do that, y'know <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" /> ) they will acquire their girl-relationship-management skills...

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CSue sighs....rolls eyes and says "no wonder!"

BTW the word was trauma...sheesh!!! And I knew that!

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