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Thanks everyone for your insight and concurrence with me on this issue. I really do appreciate your support in the knowledge that the behaviour exhibted by WS and OP is cold, callous,selfish and delusional. I read each of your posts and all of you had something valuable to say! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" />
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Want to read up on cheater antics, which includes making fun of cheater sites like TOW? ScarletA makes fun of TOW and sites like it (ie, support sites for cheaters). MB is not one of those included as strikes me that posters here, generally, except for the cheaters who double-dip in both places, respect and want to honor their marriage vows. Incidentally, if fairydust reads this, please email me. I saw something you wrote that I thought was a hoot!
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"Can you imagine Jeffrey Dahmer and John Wayne Gacy (if they were still living) forming the same type of forum so that they could compare notes????
Wow....really boggles the mind."
No, what really BOGGLES the MIND, is that you would somehow compare Serial Murderers, who commit lewd sex acts on children, then cannibalize them... to be in the same "league" with a single adult having a CONSENTUAL relationship with a married adult.
If you think those are simular moral crimes, committedandlovingit, then I think you should be.... COMMITTED that is. looney!
NO HUGS for YOU!, pffffffffft!, clarkie
(NOTE to Dac, This one sounds like a prime candidate for your looney bin)
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((CLARKIE)) THIS... (Man, Son, Father, xBH, OM & xOM ) ........has never failed to crack me up! What does this sig line say to you about you? Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> PS ... this is NOT a "dig" (I don't do that)... but is, in fact, an honest question .
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(((Pepperband)))! I always enjoy reading your posts & responses. I don't always agree, but I always know where your coming from, and that your words, and thoughts, are not closely "guarded", and come from the heart. There is a lot to be said for that.
(Man, Son, Father, xBH, OM & xOM ) was written to explain a little about who I am, who I have been, and as to where I am going? who knows. I don't know what it means to me. I'll think about it though, and if anything becomes obvious, Ill let ya know.
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Pepper's *new sig line* <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> "woman, daughter, sister, mother, friend, neighbor, nurse practitioner, pain specialist, gardener, patriot, wife, BS, former slut, cat-owner, tortoise-owner, rabbit-owner, former dog-owner, former-crow-owner, former PAA stewardess, former waitress, former dancer, former red-head, former virgin, former agnostic, former parade goddess, former 1962 VW Bug owner, former poker player, lousy cook, and maker of amazingly stinky farts ......" What do ya think Senor Clarkie? is this a "go" or a "no go"? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Ya know, I think I have to agree with Clarkie (as much as it galls me! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> ). There is no way you can compare infidelity to serial killers and pedophiles. That's a stretch. Clarkie: I see that PB is keeping you in line <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/wink.gif" /> . I'll leave you in her care!! LOL <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/shocked.gif" />
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Wait ! I decided this is better ... lapsed-agnostic ... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Pep <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
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For the love of God...
I in NO way said that they were like serial killers and pedophiles, no more than I said that MB was!! How can you read that into a mere statement? I simply imagined if that group (who had something in common with each other) were to get together.
Sheesh Clarkie....it must be due to a bit of angst...huh?
Why would you attack me on a personal level? It is really sad when a person cannot post a simple response here and not be totally flamed and now accused of insanity. All because of an opinion, no less. In a previous posts about "infidelity" I was flamed because I was not encouraging our local sheriff to haul them all off to jail. Now I am flamed because I used a DIFFERENT group of people in a statement. Is it due to the fact that YOU and your antics are less that honorable and moral . Which reminds me... Even if you offered up those hugs I would SO not be wanting them. Your signature line proves that you have been quite happy spreading them here and there with no selectivity.
I guess I need to remember to wear that little button badge on my lapel that assures people that I am "post worthy".
committed
P.S. After a little investigative work, it appears that clarkie might be the one with the problem. Not exactly welcome everywhere you go, are ya clarkie?
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((Committed)) I'll give ya a hug! How about a support group for auto-mechanics who cheat their customers? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> Your point was ... (as I understood it) ... that a support group that encourages immoral and/or cheating behavior (no matter what the behavior) ... is irrational because it does not elevate the human condition (as might a support group for the betterment of marriages, or the betterment of children, or the betterment of clean water ) If we apply support groups to endeavors that improve the human condition ... we would be a mighty people. A support group for TOW to assist breaking away from an immoral situation might be a start. I know what you mean ... or, at least I hope I do. Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" /> <small>[ September 07, 2002, 05:41 PM: Message edited by: Pepperband ]</small>
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PS ... Clarkie, Why DID you attack her (Committed) on a personal level? She did not attack YOU personally. Seems a bit strange. Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
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(((((Pepper))))
Can I get a witness???????
You were right on target....
~whew~
I am SO relieved!
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AMEN! clarkie, I understand why you jumped to the defensive, based on your sig line. Perhaps your past or present immoral activities don't rank up there with serial killers...at least I hope not. That wasn't the point committed was making. The point is that creating a support site for ANY type of immoral behavior is ludicrous. Unfortunately, there are many such sites all over the web. I'm sure your point of view is very interesting and possibly even helpful to many posters here. Please feel free to share your opinion, but please...lighten up on the attacks. Yikes! tagging off <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <small>[ September 07, 2002, 08:16 PM: Message edited by: ba109 ]</small>
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sigh....... don't ya hate it when people don't "get" analogies? committedandlovingit never equated adultery to murder. The connecting parallel, that constitutes the analogy, was the celebration of immorality - and she used murder as the common denominator instead of adultery to emphasize her point. And she was right on in her point.
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are there a lot of people from that website that lurk over here? I wonder why they are so interested.....
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Seems to me that Clarkie is the moderator, or something like that of the TOW board. That could have something to do with his below the belt post, don't you think? As I recall he shows up here on and off when TOW gets mentioned. One of the sports on the TOW board is MB bashing. So they come here to get material. We entertain them. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
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Well ... this old Pepper-bird feels compassion for Clarkie .... He seems sorta lost. Clarkie, you're in my prayers kiddo. Pepper <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/cool.gif" />
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Committedandlovingit: I apologize to you for jumping to the wrong conclusion about your analogy...I guess it helps to read thoroughly <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> . It's hard to always know where someone is coming from when communication is in text form. You have my humblest apologies.
Now for my other comment! It doesn't matter to me if member from TOW come here looking for fuel to justify their behaviour...'fill yer boots', I say. I sincerely hope that no one here would let that stop them from posting at MB and getting the advice/help they want.
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Z... clarkie is no longer moderator there, but still a VERY protective member.
The problem w/ posts like this is that it causes flames and board 'wars.' Lurker from TOW sees this posts and starts a post on MB. Now posters from both sites are lurking back and forth and posting their OPINIONS of the posters and the forums.
We are who we are. They are who they are. Not all MBrs are the SAME. Not all TOW are the same. Generalizations only serve to further divide and promote misunderstandings.
MY opinion is that opinion about TOW is better left unposted. Don't make ourselves targets. Our best 'revenge' is to BE THE BEST we can be and to LIVE THE BEST we can... don't 'call' them out...
again, just my opinion.
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committedandlovingit, I do owe you an apology. I "heard" about this thread, and zipped through it. An analogy does not a comparision make, and even if that was your intention, I DO get it. My role as a BH was SSSOOOO long ago, D-day was post seperation, so I didn't go through much of what the normal BS goes through. Yet I do remember the pain and feelings of betrayal...but even then, they were for/directed towards my wife, not the OM. I understand why some of you find it unbelieveable a site like TOW exists, all I can say is I am glad it does. Same with this site and many others. Anyway, I'm sorry I insulted you. It was uncalled for... Zorweb, FYI, I no longer moderate on TOW. Pepper, Sometimes I'm lost, sometimes I'm found, sometimes I'm somewhere inbetween. hugs all around, c <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/blush.gif" />
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