Welcome to the
Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum

This is a community where people come in search of marriage related support, answers, or encouragement. Also, information about the Marriage Builders principles can be found in the books available for sale in the Marriage Builders® Bookstore.
If you would like to join our guidance forum, please read the Announcement Forum for instructions, rules, & guidelines.
The members of this community are peers and not professionals. Professional coaching is available by clicking on the link titled Coaching Center at the top of this page.
We trust that you will find the Marriage Builders® Discussion Forum to be a helpful resource for you. We look forward to your participation.
Once you have reviewed all the FAQ, tech support and announcement information, if you still have problems that are not addressed, please e-mail the administrators at mbrestored@gmail.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 14 of 33 1 2 12 13 14 15 16 32 33
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
I feel so bummed right now. Why is it so difficult for me to make decisions?

If you notice - about half the threads on this site have this, or something similar written on them about half the time:
"Not sure what to do."

Oh, no, you are not the only one by a long ways.

It's funny, but I made the decision to stay, and I was depressed. Then I changed my mind - and now I'm happy. I'm a little scared, but happy.

Yes, I think this tells you what you wanted to know. Money can be a great help, but it just a help to us, it is not LIFE. One of my sons lived in Guatmalla for a couple of years. He lived with people that had dirt floors, and worked from sun up to sun down growing enough food to stay alive. He says they were very happy people.

I am glad your decision is made, and you can move foreward.

JLS -
I think perhaps your thread had a few surpprise turns in it. What are you thinking? Please don't be afraid to say what you really feel. One of the reasons I could help SVB1 is because she has always been honest. I believe you are to, but keep this in mind, becasue it is important. Part of this is that she didn't hold back things, she said what she was thinking.

Do you mind if I say a few things?
I think sometimes we ask questions on MB thinking there is an answer - but sometimes there are none. If you notice, SVB1 was not able to repair her marriage, but SHE got answers, and I believe she will be happier anyway - because of what she learned about herself.

Sometimes what we learn does save the marriage, sometimes not. I am among those that fear for you because this is your H's third time. To me it does not speak well for his life skills. If this is going to work, it will take all that you have - and it may take some that he DOES NOT have.

Anyway, your best chance will be when you are the most ready, and it looks like the consensus is that more preparation will serve you well.

Learning to live Dr Harleys rules. Protection, care, no LB's.

I have been here (on MB) three years. It has been a struggle for me to make the improvements even after I knew what I needed to do. I still have a ways to go, but things are much better at home.

We don't know what will happen in your case. We don't know if the marriage can, or will be saved. All you can do is be the best jls you can be, and hope that is enough.

SS


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
Hello jls,

I would be honored to come down and visit your 'ZOO'. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
It sounds like fun to me.

What have you been up to lately? How are you doing? I haven't seen you posting in a few days.

Hi SS,

I am glad that the decision is made and that I can move forward, too.

I told H on Friday night about my decision to take the job and move. I thought he would be more negative about it. I thought he would give me a hard time. This decision of mine is really forcing him to move out on his own, too. He won't stay in the same townhouse - he's going to get a smaller apartment instead. He didn't really react as I expected. He's just rolling with it.

I have been feeling pretty positive on most days. The focus on the future really helps. Today is not a very good day, though. I am having some doubts. All of the moves that I have done in my lifetime have been with my H. It's hard to believe that he is not a part of this. It makes me sad. Today I have been wondering if I had really stuck with plan B would everything have turned out differently? Or would the end result have been the same anyway? I know, deep down, the truth, but I can't help wondering about it sometimes.

Oh, and everyone seems sad to see me leave -- friends, coworkers, my BOSS....

everyone but my H! He expresses no feelings whatsoever.
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

svb1 #1186157 05/10/05 03:15 PM
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
Hi SVB1,
Oh shoot, Hi S.

I am glad that the decision is made and that I can move forward, too.

I think I would hate to have all the thoughts going round in my head that are going round in yours. I think It would make me dizzy. What did your mom say when you spoke to her on Sunday? She seems like a wise person, I would be interrested in hearing what she said.

I told H on Friday night about my decision to take the job and move. I thought he would be more negative about it. I thought he would give me a hard time. This decision of mine is really forcing him to move out on his own, too. He won't stay in the same townhouse - he's going to get a smaller apartment instead. He didn't really react as I expected. He's just rolling with it.

He got what he was going to do anyway. The only thing that is different is the time table. Really, you saved him some work, he may realize that now, and be happy about it.

I have been feeling pretty positive on most days. The focus on the future really helps. Today is not a very good day, though. I am having some doubts.

A good future is nice, but we live NOW. NOW is not fun for you. Those doubts are natural (meaning they allways happen), and when they are in our minds, they feel real. Your decisions came from thoughtful reflection, over time. Doubts come and go and don't stand up to logical thought. I am sorry neither JLS or I came to talk to you that bad day. I wish I had more time to post, and that I could be more regular to answer.

All of the moves that I have done in my lifetime have been with my H. It's hard to believe that he is not a part of this. It makes me sad.

It should make you sad. If it didn't, I wouldn't be able to help you. It means you care.

Today I have been wondering if I had really stuck with plan B would everything have turned out differently? Or would the end result have been the same anyway? I know, deep down, the truth, but I can't help wondering about it sometimes.

I can't see anything that you should have done differently this last year. Of course, I am not an expert ......but......
But, you gave your H many chances, and he continued to hide the truth. His reaction tells you how he feels. For him, it was already over. I think you know he was going to do this anyway.

Oh, and everyone seems sad to see me leave -- friends, coworkers, my BOSS....

Good grief, of course they are sad to see you leave. Remember, you HAVE value. You had it when young, you had it after you married, and you still have it. Don't you think they can see your value, and that they will miss it?

I wish you could see yourself as others see you. I think it would take your breath away.

everyone but my H! He expresses no feelings whatsoever.
<img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />


The one person you want most to miss you, and he shows no sign if it.

You value him, because.........well, because you value almost everyone. He does not value you, and I have no idea why. I would guess he does not value God much either. If you look at what he values, and what he does not - I think being away from him will be good for you.

I am sure by now you are feeling better. Don't be afraid to tell your mom how you are feeling, and what your fears are. She already knows, but she can help better if you talk to her about them yourself.

SS


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
jls,

Please let us know how you are doing.

SS


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
Hi svb and SS,

I don't want to threadjack so will post on my thread later tonite,hopefully.

svb,

OF COURSE you have doubts. Of course you would be bummed sometimes. What thread and who was it on here (MB) that said make sure you grieve and don't cover it all up. Yet you have been grieving for a long time, haven't you? It's like the death of a loved one, only of a M, longterm also. It takes a least a year or more to grieve properly for a loss, yet when you lose a loved one to a terminal illness instead of an accident or such, you have already begun to grieve from the time that they were diagnosed. You might hold some small hope, but grieving is still taking place. Let it finish, though, svb. You have been with H for a long time!

I think that making a decision was bound to help. I was afraid that you would go the other way. It seemed more practical(something that I am not always), but this way seemed beter emotionally. Nobody could choose for you and we could have all been wrong anyway. Only you really know you.

Thanks for asking about me, you guys. It makes me feel a little better.

Oh, svb, I will give you my email before you leave!! And then we can make a plan for your visit someday!

jls


~Life ain't always beautiful...but it's a beautiful ride~ -we choose our next world thru what we learn in this one.Learn nothing and the next world is the same as this one,all the same limitations and lead weights to overcome.-R. Bach
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
Well, I've officially filed for D, I can't remember if I mentioned that already. The paperwork has already come back with a case number. I think I just have to wait for a court date now.

My first day on my new job will be June 13. This Friday will be my last day at my current job. I've been packing and trying to get everything in order. I'll move during the week of June 5.

Everything seems to be rolling along. Most of the time I think I'm positive and optimistic about my future. Of course, I have my moments of doubt (as above!).

I think I would hate to have all the thoughts going round in my head that are going round in yours. I think It would make me dizzy.

You know, SS, my H is not helping with these thoughts! Last night, H wanted to go out to see a movie. We saw Monster-in-Law. (very funny). He held hands with me when we walked, just like we've always done. !!!??? On the way back he wanted to stop to buy ice cream. This all confuses me so much! Why does he do this?

Maybe we shouldn't have gone. I felt giddy like a school girl all night. I probably should have told him that it's not a good idea - we're getting a D.

The whole night I kept thinking how nice it would be if he could move with me back to Chicago. It would be as if we're starting out all over again. I have been wondering if he feels doubts sometimes, too. Maybe he's not really sure if he wants to D, either.

I don't know, but the more I think about it, it's probably just more to his advantage to be nice to me. Somehow, I think he wants to keep me as a friend, just in case. I'm sure he knows that I'll always help him with whatever in the future.

I think he's stressed out about $$$ already. He's stressed about how much it will cost him to be in an apartment on his own. He's worried about the car. He finally got his car back (after $8400 in repairs). The insurance company (of the girl that hit him) has only paid half of the damages so far. The rest is on his new credit card. He is being told that he has to pay our deductible. (which doesn't make sense to me) I think he's afraid that they won't pay the rest, or at least before his credit card bill is due.

So, yes, I am dizzy with all of these thoughts.

Does he have doubts, too, and is he now realizing what he is losing? or does he want me to be available in the future in case he needs to use me?

Maybe being ALONE is not looking so appealing to him afterall.

sooo confusing.

Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
Well, I've officially filed for D, I can't remember if I mentioned that already. The paperwork has already come back with a case number. I think I just have to wait for a court date now.

Did she say date?
Court????
Court who?
Is he cute?

Ok, calm down, I got it the first time. No, I can't remember you telling us that you had filed.

My first day on my new job will be June 13. This Friday will be my last day at my current job. I've been packing and trying to get everything in order. I'll move during the week of June 5.

Do you have any concerns about the move?


Everything seems to be rolling along. Most of the time I think I'm positive and optimistic about my future. Of course, I have my moments of doubt (as above!).

Yes, as above, and also as, in the quotes below.


You know, SS, my H is not helping with these thoughts! Last night, H wanted to go out to see a movie. We saw Monster-in-Law. (very funny). He held hands with me when we walked, just like we've always done. !!!??? On the way back he wanted to stop to buy ice cream. This all confuses me so much! Why does he do this?

Honestly, I don't know.
I can speculate though...............
Do you think he is just doing it because he is getting what he wanted? Wasn't, he was kind of distant when he thought HE was going to have to D you? Didn't he treat you badly BEFORE you made up your mind?

Maybe we shouldn't have gone. I felt giddy like a school girl all night. I probably should have told him that it's not a good idea - we're getting a D.

Do you understand why you DID go?
Your IC should be helping you with these kinds of things - you should have an answer for me.

The whole night I kept thinking how nice it would be if he could move with me back to Chicago. It would be as if we're starting out all over again. I have been wondering if he feels doubts sometimes, too. Maybe he's not really sure if he wants to D, either.

I can't look into his mind, but his actions for nearly the last 18 months did not show care and protection for you. That is a very long time with no change. There are other factors also, as you have discussed with IC.

I don't know, but the more I think about it, it's probably just more to his advantage to be nice to me. Somehow, I think he wants to keep me as a friend, just in case. I'm sure he knows that I'll always help him with whatever in the future.

This is consistant with his other actions. He has something to gain from being nice to you, so he is nice.

I am thought of as an optimist by my friends. Please forgive me for looking at the dark side, but I have not seen anything in what you relate to show he has CHANGED HIS HEART. As long as we have been hearing about him, it has always been "how can he make things go his way."

I believe people can change if THEY WANT TO. I don't see anything here that would point to his wanting to do things differenthy.

Have his driving patterns changed any? Or is it hard to tell?


So, yes, I am dizzy with all of these thoughts.

We continue to pray for you, for your success, for you to know the truth.

I would suppose he IS thinking about the results of his actions on his lifestyle. YOU made it possible for him to visit his family for a month. YOU have taken care of day to day things - always. Please let him learn his lessons, and don't take his education away from him. (by doing things for him still.)

Does he have doubts, too, and is he now realizing what he is losing? or does he want me to be available in the future in case he needs to use me?

Remember, sometimes we don't get the answers we want. I would like to see you concentrate on YOUR future, not on his thoughts.


sooo confusing.

There are many things that I do not understand about the world. I spend very little time trying to figure them out though, because I know I can't do anything about them, even if I could understand.

That was a hint. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

In a way, I didn't have to do this post, because I think you already know every thing I said. I just thought you wanted to hear it again, so here it is.

SS smiles -
I admit, I still worry sometimes.

God be with you.

SS

PS - JLS
I am still thinking about you. Wishing there were some way to SHOW you how the suggestions from Pep, Ark, and others would translate in to how you interact with your H. Wanted you to know people care.

All the best to you too.


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
svb,

Hey girl!! Filed, huh? That must have been hard.

I am gonna put S7 to bed and (hopefully) get up and come back to PC. Just wanted u to know that I have been thinking about you!!

jls


~Life ain't always beautiful...but it's a beautiful ride~ -we choose our next world thru what we learn in this one.Learn nothing and the next world is the same as this one,all the same limitations and lead weights to overcome.-R. Bach
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
ok, phew. forgot that I had BOTH white "blankies" in wash. Got thru that! Then added to MY thread, and now will bump u right over the top of me. No prob.

Anyway, been thinking svb. Filing must have been really tuff. This separation has been hard enuf, but I'm worried right now, 'cause I am now getting to used to it. H is calling ALOT and being very nice. That helps. The first week was bad, the 2nd week was harder, now I SEEM ok.

After reading your post, tho, I am not so sure. I keep telling myself that if things don't work out, I will be alright. But that D is for Dam^! Not trying to bring you down, just realizing what you must really be going through.

Really svb, you will be fine. I can't believe that your last day is going to be Fri. This Friday? Then you will be very busy and anticipating the move. How exciting. And I was thinking about the less income thing. You will be near family, you will not need a large place and you will not need to support H. Just food for you and Lenny.

SS is right, as usual. Alot of your questions might not ever be answered. There might not even BE answers! Still, you must ask them sometimes.

Yeah, I don't get the whole holding hands, date-like thing, either. Maybe he has a lot of questions also.

(Again, SS, right.) Maybe you did all the work for him again. He was too chicken to ask for a D, now you took care of that. And he still doesn't look like the "bad guy". Some people really worry about that. (My H never wants to take ANY blame. I get tired of the guilt thing tho. I'm ALWAYS the bad guy to him.)

svb, you did everything you could to save your M. Now you are saving YOU! I like the you that I have read so much about. Hope I can get to know you offline someday. (And that you're not a 6 ft bald biker wierdo in real life-the one that I warn my D14 about, that online stalker guy :^) )

I went back over some of your old threads today. I recalled reading the "late from the airport" before. And others. But I couldn't remember where u r now. On the left coast? Well, it's chilly here at nite still. But I am sure by the time u get to Chi-town it will be PLENTY HOT!!

Get to packing, girlie!

jls


~Life ain't always beautiful...but it's a beautiful ride~ -we choose our next world thru what we learn in this one.Learn nothing and the next world is the same as this one,all the same limitations and lead weights to overcome.-R. Bach
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
oh and thanks SS. Mulling everything over.. and over.

jls


~Life ain't always beautiful...but it's a beautiful ride~ -we choose our next world thru what we learn in this one.Learn nothing and the next world is the same as this one,all the same limitations and lead weights to overcome.-R. Bach
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
SS,

Did she say date?
Court????
Court who?
Is he cute?

You made me bust out laughing again. Did I ever tell you that you are a goofball? (But I mean that in the best possible way)

Do you have any concerns about the move?

Well, I wouldn't be ME if I weren't worried or stressed about some aspect of the move or anything else.

1. I was originally planning on moving in w/my mother until I found a place to buy of my own. However, she lives 60 miles from my new job. Besides this, although I know my mom loves me and cares about me, I'm a little concerned (ok a lot) about having someone ELSE besides my H controlling my life. I'm going to be honest - my mom is controlling. Let's see, how did my IC put it? It would be like moving from the frying pan into the fire back to the frying pan again if I move in w/ my mom. I think I know what I need to do, but somebody's going to have some hurt feelings. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />
If I'm sticking with the idea of doing what's emotionally the best for me, I need to be on my OWN. I'll just have to tell my mom that I've made a decision and be firm about it. She'll have to understand.

2. My H has offered to help me move back to Chicago (what a nice guy - I'm sure his family knows all about it) but ONLY if I move into an apartment. He says that my mom will take over my life if I move in with her (pot calling the kettle black). Also, I know he doesn't want to see her. I think it's best - trust me - they'll have words. My mom has already told me so if she sees him.

3. Otherwise, both my brother and my best friend have offered to fly out to help me load and drive back to Chicago. My mom has, too, but see #2 above - not a good idea.

Honestly, I don't know.
I can speculate though...............
Do you think he is just doing it because he is getting what he wanted? Wasn't, he was kind of distant when he thought HE was going to have to D you? Didn't he treat you badly BEFORE you made up your mind?

I think he's very relieved that he doesn't have to file for D. I've made everything SO easy for him. I've been dying to put my voice activated recorder to use again to hear what he's telling his family and friends, but I haven't. I don't think I will. What's the point now? It's over.

My IC says that he might be having some separation issues, too. Afterall, we have been together a long time. WHo knows.

Do you understand why you DID go?
Your IC should be helping you with these kinds of things - you should have an answer for me.

Well, I did want to see this movie. I guess I just want things to be as pleasant as possible before I leave.

I am thought of as an optimist by my friends. Please forgive me for looking at the dark side, but I have not seen anything in what you relate to show he has CHANGED HIS HEART. As long as we have been hearing about him, it has always been "how can he make things go his way."

I believe people can change if THEY WANT TO. I don't see anything here that would point to his wanting to do things differenthy.

No, you're absolutely right. He does not love me and he absolutely does not respect me. I still feel peace overall about this decision. It's just that I have moments of doubt on occasion, and that's when I usually post.

In a way, I didn't have to do this post, because I think you already know every thing I said. I just thought you wanted to hear it again, so here it is.

I do know it, but I need to hear it again and again and again. Thanks for saying it.

Have his driving patterns changed any? Or is it hard to tell?

I forgot to mention about the GPS device. Since H got his car back, I took it out and downloaded the info for the week before his accident. There was nothing interesting on it. I haven't put the GPS device back in yet.

I have checked his miles this week, though. No 48 mile round trips. Other than that, when he had his rental, I couldn't really tell. I couldn't use the GPS or check his miles. His other behaviors didn't indicate anything either.

I did notice on the computer history a couple days ago that he looked up driving directions to a residence address about 12 miles away. I was able to do a reverse look up on the address. I got a first initial and last name AND telephone number. Could this be a new friend or a new friend? But again, I figure, who cares anymore at this point? The habit is in me, though, to keep checking on him.

If I stay with him I will just go crazy with this kind of stuff.

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
Hi jls,

Anyway, been thinking svb. Filing must have been really tuff.

You know what was tough? The physical filing wasn't so bad. I'm a pretty organized person, and I found out what I had to do and did it. What was difficult was having to fill out some of it on a Saturday morning while my H was lying on the couch watching tv. Yet HE is the one that wants to be free and not be married. If I had a choice, he would want to work on the M and we would not be Ding. He wants none of that, though, so I have no choice. I got really upset that morning thinking of that. I cried and he saw me.

After reading your post, tho, I am not so sure. I keep telling myself that if things don't work out, I will be alright. But that D is for Dam^! Not trying to bring you down, just realizing what you must really be going through.

I know you will be ok if things don't work out. But don't give up yet. I have hope for you guys yet.

Really svb, you will be fine. I can't believe that your last day is going to be Fri. This Friday?

It was going to be this Friday. I extended to NEXT Friday. I figure that I have enough time to move still if I work one more week. Plus, an extra week of pay will help when I move.

And I was thinking about the less income thing. You will be near family, you will not need a large place and you will not need to support H. Just food for you and Lenny.

No, not just for me and Lenny! He's got two tank-mates now. I've got THREE little mouths to feed.

svb, you did everything you could to save your M. Now you are saving YOU! I like the you that I have read so much about. Hope I can get to know you offline someday. (And that you're not a 6 ft bald biker wierdo in real life-the one that I warn my D14 about, that online stalker guy :^) )

Thanks, jls, it'd be cool to meet you, too. Um.. I am 6 ft tall, though! Bald? Well, I do a good job of yanking out my hair with my anxiety and all (but not bald!) You don't have to worry about me, though, I couldn't hurt a fly. I don't even kill spiders in my house. I take a wad of paper, pick them up, and throw them outside. See, nothing to worry about.

I went back over some of your old threads today. I recalled reading the "late from the airport" before. And others. But I couldn't remember where u r now. On the left coast? Well, it's chilly here at nite still. But I am sure by the time u get to Chi-town it will be PLENTY HOT!!

UGghh, the "late from the airport" episode. I still have that parking receipt. What a liar. I never showed it to him, though. Or the empty condom wrappers that I found in his garbage can, for that matter. I wonder if I should throw them out now. I went back and read my original thread on the 'just found out' board. I was a basketcase back then. He seems so much more horrible to me now when I go back and read it all. It's so easy to forget some of these things that he's done. I thought about the time that he went to buy a bike and didn't want me to go with him. And then saying, "you don't need a bike, you'll never use it." He could have said, "oh, yeah, let's both get bikes and we can go to such and such park and go bike riding!"

Oh well.

Thanks for checking in on me, jls.

I'm on the east coast, BTW.

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
I'm on a roll now.

I was thinking of something else regarding the whole bike thing.

About two years ago, maybe three, my H bought a very expensive bike. Back then, on a lot of his days off, he would take his bike, throw it in the back of his SUV and go to the state park to ride it. He was NEVER interested in me going with him. The thought crossed my mind (way back then) that he might have been meeting a friend there. I don't know.

Well, one day, he came home from the park and he was FURIOUS. Someone had smashed the back window of his SUV and stole his bike. This happened at the park. Where was he when the bike was stolen? He told me that he was in the bathroom. How long was he in the bathroom? Aren't guys in and out of bathrooms quickly? Do people smash windows and steal bikes that quickly? He didn't even see or hear anything.

He didn't even call the police from the park. He doesn't have a cell phone and said he couldn't find a pay phone. He drove home and told ME to call 911 for him while he covered the back window. He wanted the cops to come to our place. I told him that it doesn't work like that. Well, he yelled and I called and I felt like an idiot for doing so. They were asking me questions and I had NO IDEA since I wasn't there. They also told me that he would have to call from the park. I went outside to tell him and THEN he believed me, but he was still furious.

To this day, I've always wondered what happened at the park. He was so evasive about it. He wouldn't answer ANY of my questions for more details. He acted very defensively and ANGRY.

Does any of that sound fishy to you guys? Or is it just me.

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 774
oops, was facing the wrong way when I talked to you!

I just don't get it, svb. WHY do people act that way? Do they not get what M is about??? Maybe it's me. I am beginning to reconcile with the idea that I AM crazy. Hmm, tired anyway, and maybe not thinking right alot.

You are not 6ft tall?! I am 5'2. But TUFF, most of the time anyhow. Maybe I have a little bit of the "napoleon syndrome", and that is why I like "bossing" those big horses around.

My animals are so therapuetic for me. Hope you are not too busy taking care of all those fish? LOL. Weren't the new 2 picking on Lenny for awhile? Darn fish, soo much trouble.

It will probably be good for you to work an extra week. I believe that you have to allow yourself time to grieve and all. But nothing like idle thoughts, either. Stay busy and it does seem like you are ok. Hopefully you are and I'm glad if you are. OK is really good enuf right now. Ecstaticly happy will come later, just wait!

jls


~Life ain't always beautiful...but it's a beautiful ride~ -we choose our next world thru what we learn in this one.Learn nothing and the next world is the same as this one,all the same limitations and lead weights to overcome.-R. Bach
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
S
Member
Offline
Member
S
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 6,473
Good for you two !!

I wish I could keep up.

S,
You can probably throw the evidence out now.

It sounds like he may not even have been at the park when the bike theft happened. You probably won't ever know.

If you made a list of all these things when the thoughts come to you, it would go pages long. Then you could look at it whenever you wondered.

I am glad you are working another week. I can see you are flexible, that you can think on your feet, and that you can change your mind when you see a better idea come along. All of this speaks well for you.

I hope the move goes well. I think you are wise to not live with Mom - the distance alone would keep me from doing it. I have no idea where the new work place will be - if it's not a high priced real estate location, you may get along just fine on the lower pay. The rent or purchase price in most places around C should be less than where you are now.

BTW, my Dad was born in C, in 1929.

I know it's hard, but I recommend you put all the thoughts of the past where they belong - in the past. Concentrate on NOW, and the future. Stay away from H, the emotions don't help you any. Talk to jls more, she sounds like a good friend.

It sounds like your best friend is still from your past - HS? or college? I also keep in contact with friends from HS, and sometimes go on trips with them. It is a good thing, one of the few things we will take with us when we leave this life. If she doesn't know all the history, give her the condensed version so she will know more about the road you have traveled. I think she will be a big help.

You know her best, think on it first. Maybe she already knows.

Jls, you sound pretty good, all things considered. What do you think?

Happy trails.

SS


I think sometimes about all the pain in the world. I hope we can ease that here, even if only a little bit.
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
Well, everything is still moving along.

I've reserved a truck for my move on Monday, June 6. I'm still packing little by little.

I've secured an apartment about 6 -7 miles from work. After talking to my brother and my mother this past weekend, my mom is now open to the idea of me living on my own close to work.

H will be helping me move. We will load the truck and drive out together. On one hand, I am a little relieved that I will have his help. H's friend will help us in Chicago, too. (The one that now lives in FL) At the same time, though, I am thinking that he will se my new apartment and he will TAINT it. I will have memories of him BEING there. It kind of goes against my idea of moving on and starting fresh. Oh well. When I buy my townhouse, eventually, it will be all MINE.

H is all gung ho about helping me. He is acting like Mr. Wonderful. It still all baffles me. Is it guilt on his part, or does he think that I can't handle it on my own? More than anything I still think that it's because he can report back to his family about everything that he's done to help me. They'll all think that he's so wonderful.

Another thing that baffles me is that he asked me last night if there's a store of his nearby my new apt. Why would he care???? - unless he is considering moving out there eventually. I doubt it, though. I asked him if he wanted to visit it while he was out there. He said no.

Oh well, no use stressing over it.

I am getting pretty excited about the move and my new life.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,912
_
Member
Offline
Member
_
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,912
SVB1,

Thanks for the update. I was wondering how you were doing the move.

Nobody can figure out a WS. Look at it this way. It only takes him a couple of days - and costs him not much - and he gets to look like a good(ish) guy.

I helped my w move out the first time we were separated - and it was her who wanted it, certainly not me.

Keep us posted, ok?

-AD


A guy, 50. Divorced in 2005.
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
JLS,

You are not 6ft tall?! I am 5'2. But TUFF, most of the time anyhow. Maybe I have a little bit of the "napoleon syndrome", and that is why I like "bossing" those big horses around.

I am TOO 6 ft tall. Looks are deceiving, though, because, unlike you, I am not TUFF.

My animals are so therapuetic for me. Hope you are not too busy taking care of all those fish? LOL. Weren't the new 2 picking on Lenny for awhile? Darn fish, soo much trouble.

My fish -- the new 2 were picking on Lenny and then stopped until YESTERDAY. They're at it again. I'm starting to wonder if Lenny is not Lenny, but Lenietta. (If there's such a name!) Actually, I've been doing some checking on the internet and I'm pretty positive that Lenny IS female. I could have baby fishies in the near future. Oh my!

Ecstaticly happy will come later, just wait!

Boy, won't THAT be nice!

Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
S
svb1 Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
S
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 468
Hi AD

Thanks for checking in.

I will definitely keep everyone posted on the move. I, just like YOU, can't stay away from this place!

But you have to keep us posted on YOUR move, too.

Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,912
_
Member
Offline
Member
_
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,912
Quote
But you have to keep us posted on YOUR move, too.

Will do!


A guy, 50. Divorced in 2005.
Page 14 of 33 1 2 12 13 14 15 16 32 33

Moderated by  Fordude 

Link Copied to Clipboard
Forum Search
Who's Online Now
0 members (), 822 guests, and 71 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Bibbyryan860, Ian T, SadNewYorker, Jay Handlooms, GrenHeil
71,838 Registered Users
Building Marriages That Last A Lifetime
Copyright © 1995-2019, Marriage Builders®. All Rights Reserved.
Site Navigation
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5