okie/zip - who are YOU? I mean, why set up a brand new i.d. to slam somebody, when you could just be yourself and shoot straight with Caren?

Dishonesty comes in many forms, ya know?

DD10 called WH last night, she talked to him for about 15 minutes, I had told her that I needed to speak to him, but she's so used to me NOT talking to him, she hung up the phone, so I called back, and he answered. I said "I need you to meet me somewhere after you get off of work" He said "What? Why? What's going on?" I said "I just need you to meet me somewhere, we have some things to discuss" He said "What's wrong? Is it something else bad?" I said "I don't want to talk about it on the phone" He said "Well Why? I'm confused. I'm doing what you asked me to do (Meaning not contacting me)." I said "I know, it has nothing to do with that." He said "Well what is it then?" I said "It's just some financial stuff" He said "What's up?" I said "I really would rather talk to you tommorrow" He said "Well we'll still talk tommorrow but I want to know" I said "Well I got an eviction notice" He said "What? How?" I said "I paid 700 on my back rent but I still owe 50 dollars for January and all of February." He said "Oh..." I said "That's not all, I mean you know the phone was shut off today...and well, I'm just NOT making it" He said "Well where do you want to meet?" I guess I didn't hear what he said because I said "I don't know what the answer is....but you're my husband and we're you're family." He said "I know, I just wondered where you wanted to meet" I said "Oh, sorry, I don't know, I don't want to talk around the kids" He said "Well do you have group tommorrow?" I said "Yes, or I would have asked you to come over before work" He said "Okay, well I'll call you tommorrow afternoon" I said "Okay" and we hung up.

I prayed about it again, asked God what I was supposed to do, I have put my marriage into his hands, I prayed several times yesterday about what God wanted from me. I said "Is this what you want Lord? Am I supposed to talk to my husband about this?" Well I just began to feel *better* about talking to him about it, hopefully if it wasn't what he wanted me to do, I'd at least feel badly."

This morning shortly before it was time to wake up, I had a dream. I dreamt that WH asked me to pick him up at his work, when I got there he was coming out of the store and he said "She's mad, she said she knew about the phone calls on the cell phone, and she told me to come and get my car." Then she came out of her shop and I don't know where WH was, but she came up and started yelling at me.....and she had a knife, I was backing away from her, but she stabbed me in the side and I hit her and knocked her back into the window of her store, it broke and she fell through the window, then I collapsed. WTF was that?!?! I really hope that is just my subconscious being goofy, because nobody better be stabbing me.

-Caren

P.S.-I'm wondering if this isn't the excuse that he needs to do SOMETHING....maybe that's what God's plan is...I don't know.

Oakiedokie.....
Caren probably has cable hook up for her computer.....that doesn't go through the phone line. Trust me...I know...my phone has been shut off before also and I still have my internet!
Why on earth would you think that Caren would make stuff up to make her thread more interesting??? The poor girl is going through enough right now...no need to come on here and bad mouth her!

<small>[ February 22, 2005, 07:33 AM: Message edited by: TreeReich* ]</small>

Caren,

To see a window in your dream signifies bright hopes, vast possibilities, and insight.

To see shattered and broken windows denotes misery and disloyalty.

To dream you have been stabbed signifies your struggle with power. You may be experiencing feelings of inadequacy and defensiveness. Alternatively, you may be feeling betrayed.

I had a dream last night that Patriot paid all of your bills and I was mad at him. I'm sure he thought I was insane because this morning when I woke up he said, "I didn't pay all of CarenMC's bills". I guess I was talking in my sleep.

<small>[ February 22, 2005, 07:29 AM: Message edited by: frozen1229 ]</small>

Caren,
If I was wealthy I would send you a check!!!! Hang in there....things will get better.

caren..

my suggestion is contact your local Catholic Church or Diocese....

Catholic Charities a long established organization whose sole and soul <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/smile.gif" /> purpose is to help out....when needed....

they are well organized....and make it easy to access the supports that are out there....

it's confidential..AND it what they do..

seek guidance and shelter...
this too shall pass....

ARK

Thank you everyone!! I know you would send me a check if you were rich Tree...I'd send you one too hon...LOL!!!

Froz...LOL @ dreaming that!!! I can relate, I have dreams that seem so real that I wake up P.O.ed.

I've never tried to analyze anything I've dreamed...like you just did....the broken window thing. If I just saw a broken window in my dream maybe I'd buy that...but since I knocked her through the window and broke it, I dunno.

I will look into the Catholic Charities thing Ark. Thanks.

I am so happy that junior members are crawling out of the woodwork to doubt me....SWEET! WTF is that about? How many times have I posted?? Like a thousand...I am a fantastic story teller if I've made all that crapola up. Not to mention...IF I were making it up....WHY...WHY would I choose to say my WH only makes 7.00 an hour??? Wouldn't it be a more **interesting** story if he made tons of money and just wouldn't give me any of it?!?! I am aware of the cost of a cable modem versus a land line.....but the difference is...MY DD19 had the damn thing installed...AND there is like a 100 dollar installation fee on a dial up modem installation...therefore I couldn't afford to do that. As I stated earlier...it will more than likely be shut off, and then I guess I'll be using my phone line to connect, because I'l have no other choice.

I'm not trying to act like I'm not living beyond my means...hello, how could I not be given what I make...and yes, it's all beginning to crumble...I'm painfully aware. I can see a few places where I could have done things differently, but for the most part I don't spend anything except on food/bills. My husband and I were BARELY making it together, I have NO CLUE how he's making it on what he makes (I know I can't)....maybe he's girlfriend is kicking some in, who knows.....All that I KNOW is it makes me feel like someone kicked me in the stomach to think about it, and it's actually a pretty low blow to come on here and pick my life apart and say that it doesn't sound true.....I don't care how TRUE it sounds, it is true, I'm not exaggerating, and I frankly don't have the time or energy to keep explaining myself.

-Caren

P.S.-Why doesn't EVERYONE pick an exotic scene like OHIO to live in???

<small>[ February 22, 2005, 08:08 AM: Message edited by: CarenMc ]</small>

Okay, I just thought of one other thing...then gotta get in the shower and go to group.

I'm not even *INVENTIVE* enough to MAKE UP a name...I used my real name and the first 2 letters of my real damn last name. Yeah, but I'm fabricating my story...alrighty then.

-Caren

Caren, don't let hecklers who can't use their "real" mb name to question you get to you.

Just think, you could have FAA's problem - where REAL people in her life pretend to be her friends there, then read here, and report any dirt they can find to her WH.

Yeah - vermin crawling everywhere. Don't let their antics get under your skin.

Here's what I've had to do with a heckler in my life. He's my team leader at work. Comes to me trying to "help" me by telling me how bad I suck at my job.

Lou Tice wrote a book called Smart Talk that, thankfully, came to my mind after my sales plummetted after Z's first try at "coaching" me on how to do my job. I looked at who has a credible voice to me and realized I have given "Z" too much credibility - I believed him. So now I'm working to give that credibility to someone who wants me to succeed so that MY OWN PAYCHECK is bigger, instead of just thinking about his own...

So if okie wants to come forth and confess under their real identity here - and zippity can do the same... both of those "well-meaning" souls can then clean up their own stuff and that's all fine and good. But in the mean time, you just work on you; and be careful who you believe - even those who are supportive and encouraging you. Because like the OW in your dream, some do-gooders would just as soon stab you in the back as help you.

editted to add:
What is your empowerment checklist today:
1. Check with local women's services for help with utilities, rent, etc. They will also tell you what they can probably get your husband to step up to the plate and cover.
2. Then have the conversation with your husband: this is me, moving on with my life because I will not allow marital resources to go to courting OW, when my husband's daughter is going without adequate shelter, food, etc.

This will be seen as pressure, but if you have already talked with the agencies that help women who are in your predicament, you will be able to say, I'm not willing to live with you underemployed so that you can work next door to the sl*t.

See where it goes from there.

<small>[ February 22, 2005, 08:22 AM: Message edited by: KaylaAndy ]</small>

{{{Caren}}},

Ignore the hit and run posters.They usually have nothing of value to say and only want to fan the flames.You know who your MB friends are,we know the score and can spot trollers and other's a mile away.Don't waste time worrying about that.

Keep your focus.

O

Thank You. Okay, I'm off to group....catch you guys this afternoon.

-Caren

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by okiedokie:
<strong> doesn't anyone else wonder how carenmc was posting when her phone was supposedly shut off? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Well, I haven't read the other two pages after this post...but unless you live in outer space...did you know OKIEDOKIE that most people have DSL now for their internet connection! I certaintly dont need a PHONE for mine!

some people <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

My first post was to Caren and this, my second post is also on her thread. I've been lurking and learning here for over 2 years and when I saw that Caren was in Ohio, like me, I posted some advice, which was ignored and wasn't even acknowledged.
I have had experience with the legal syatem in our state regarding legal aid and child support when my husband cheated and walked out on me and my kids. I told her it doesn't take 8 months to get support. It took me less than 10 days and it would work the same for her or anyone.
Some people don't want advice that's real they want to hear what they want to hear. It puts me in mind of my 14 year old daughter. If I tel her she can go to the movies if she cleans her room she says she doesn't have time to clean her room cause she has to get ready to go to the movies. It's talking in circles and it gets you no where.
You can't say I'm going to Plan B but I can't cause it's too hard cause in one day I had my cell shut off my phone shut off and got an eviction notice.
I believe Caren I just think she thrives on drama cause after all, who could "LMAO" while their life and their kids are falling apart?
Ohio is reasonably a cheap place to live. My rent for a 3 bedroom apartment is $350.00 a month. It's in a nice neighborhood with good people and good schools. It's all in the choices you make.

Caren, people used to say that I would make up things too, cuz my "story" is so far fetched...Dont pay any attention to those people...I mean they had to re-register to make a comment to you! hang tuff...

MT3B

Caren,

Type "Ohio Child Support Guidelines" in your search engine and you can pull up a worksheet to plug in your WH's income and your income and calculate what he SHOULD be paying you for child support. You should do the same for DD13's father to see if you should be getting more than $130 per month for her. You can print these worksheets and a copy of the statute to show both of these men to prove to them that they should be paying more.

Also, if you go to AFDC or whatever it is called in Ohio, you don't have to have your WH's SSN. Just tell them his name and where he works and they will take it from there. I'm not just some lurker throwing out useless advice, I'm a lawyer. You can get the ball rolling. You don't need any documentation. Go to the welfare office and they'll get the ball rolling and yes, they will start paying you assistance and no, it won't take 8 months.


P.S. Your WH should sell that stupid "hotrod" and give you the money so you can get on your feet. He is totally selfish and self-absorbed.

-SNS

<small>[ February 22, 2005, 01:43 PM: Message edited by: Still-n-Shock ]</small>

I have a saying, Never trust someone who doesn't trust me. So Jake/Larry/Okie/Zip whatever your name is, and whoever you are working for, not trustin Caren smacks a bit of not being a trustworthy person yourself...

Caren, you have created a chaotic situation here, and I would suspect you have lived in chaos nearly all your life...Why? And do you WANT to change that? Really think about that. There are reasons people create chaos in their lives...the adrenalin rush, masks the thoughts they have running through their mind, etc. What is up? Don't want to spread it here, you can email if you like stillheremakingit@yahoo.com.

Hey, uuuHHMMM, (clearing my throat) you guys,

Junior member? Yeah, that's me - I know lurking doesn't count.

Hit and Run? More like pressed-for-time, bad typist, and computer/web page messes up often.

Excuses? Yeah, got lots of them, see above.

Mean? No, at least I don't think so, but maybe I would at least feel visible or less like a non-entity if I said something derogatory. And then got a response or acknowledgement.

Really not trying to Threadjack (Watch out, I got a computer and I'm not afraid to use it), but please don't put down us JM's (juniors) or discourage us from posting. Except for that okiedokie thang, what was that? Actually, the same thought ran thru my mind, but I do know about DSL, and besides, the thought wasn't prudent to the thread.

Of course, neither should these thoughts be. But, really- Hellloooo, I am a person too!! HeeHee. I think....

And also, would like to say maybe Caren likes drama, OR maybe that's just her style of typing/communicating. And "LMAO" Having a sense of humor, ESPECIALLY when down, is a GOOD thing.
That's one reason I read her threads.

Sorry, I'll go away now.
JLS

Hey, uuuHHMMM, (clearing my throat) you guys,

Junior member? Yeah, that's me - I know lurking doesn't count.

Hit and Run? More like pressed-for-time, bad typist, and computer/web page messes up often.

Excuses? Yeah, got lots of them, see above.

Mean? No, at least I don't think so, but maybe I would at least feel visible or less like a non-entity if I said something derogatory. And then got a response or acknowledgement.

Really not trying to Threadjack (Watch out, I got a computer and I'm not afraid to use it), but please don't put down us JM's (juniors) or discourage us from posting. Except for that okiedokie thang, what was that? Actually, the same thought ran thru my mind, but I do know about DSL, and besides, the thought wasn't prudent to the thread.

Of course, neither should these thoughts be. But, really- Hellloooo, I am a person too!! HeeHee. I think....

And also, would like to say maybe Caren likes drama, OR maybe that's just her style of typing/communicating. And "LMAO" Having a sense of humor, ESPECIALLY when down, is a GOOD thing.
That's one reason I read her threads.

Sorry, I'll go away now.
JLS

Not to put down JM's but there has been a problem with this, and I think the poster was using this as code for "you may have just started posting and have a vested interest in starting trouble on C's thread or others", meaning a person who has gotten on for the express reason of getting us off the supporting track. Not all JM's do this, not nearly all, but if there are one of these, they will start a new membership, get on and attack, then get off to watch the action...