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You will want to ask her to be sure, and make sure she understands what to expect and how to handle it.
Gimble, I'm glad you brought this up. I do need to prepare my mom for what to expect and how to handle being my intermediary. I looked in SAA again last night and couldn't find anything about how to prepare an intermediary. My mom has volunteered for the job, but I don't want her to be at the receiving end of WH's anger and I don't want to add any undue stress to her life. What kinds of things should she be prepared for? And how should I tell her to handle them?

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If you don't have calller ID, get it. The kids can see who it is and answer the phone if they want to.
I will get caller ID. I will need to make sure that WH knows that the children will have the choice of answering the phone, I will not tell them whether they should or not.

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I think it is probably more work than scary. The scary part wears off pretty quickly, then it is a bit of work, and eventually, you really start to enjoy the peace of not directly having to deal with the bullstuff continuously generated by the illicit pair.
Ah, peace. Sounds good. The illicit pair can wallow in their own bullstuff and quit dumping it on me.

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Don't stay up all night worrying about it, you will do fine.
I'm another one, like you and Sleepless, who survives on very little sleep. I've never slept more than about 5-6 hours per night. I'm doing better at compartmentalizing. The worrying compartment has been shut down for now. WH is coming over Sunday, to work in the yard, he says, so maybe I'll worry then (but I won't show it!).

Gimble, and anyone else with Plan B advice, what else should I consider when planning Plan B? I want to be prepared. I know having no contact with WH is of paramount importance. Thank you!


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You will want to ask her to be sure, and make sure she understands what to expect and how to handle it.
Gimble, I'm glad you brought this up. I do need to prepare my mom for what to expect and how to handle being my intermediary. I looked in SAA again last night and couldn't find anything about how to prepare an intermediary. My mom has volunteered for the job, but I don't want her to be at the receiving end of WH's anger and I don't want to add any undue stress to her life. What kinds of things should she be prepared for? And how should I tell her to handle them?

Gimble, and anyone else with Plan B advice, what else should I consider when planning Plan B? I want to be prepared. Thank you!

See a link over in the "Other Web Sites" section of Marriage Builders for a link for intermediary services.

Your mom has a huge task ahead of her. Most mothers aren't up to it, because they take sides, and deliver non-stop lovebusters to manipulative recipients of Plan B. If your mom is totally on board with your desire to recover your marriage, then, excellent, bring it on. But if she's not, then you might as well use your attorney and save your mom the stress and heartache. It's not an easy task.

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KaylaAndy, thank you for your reply and the link.

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Your mom has a huge task ahead of her. Most mothers aren't up to it, because they take sides, and deliver non-stop lovebusters to manipulative recipients of Plan B.
That is what worries me. I know my mom would cheerfully walk through the firey depths of hell for me, but I don't want her to have to. If I asked her to be civil to WH, she would, but she is most definitely on my side. My mom, who I have never heard curse in my entire life, has a special name for WH now: 'son of a b*&%$ b&#$%#*.' Being my intermediary might be too stressful for her. Maybe if I prepare her properly so she knows what to expect?

I can't think of anyone else to ask to be an intermediary. The lawyer does seem like an obvious choice, especially for legal matters. I would think it would be expensive to use her services for minor child-related matters.

I can't think of any mutual friends I would feel comfortable asking to be the intermediary. I'll keep thinking.

WH just called to tell me he won't be able to come over and work in the yard tomorrow morning as we had planned, he might be able to make it late in the day. Not a big deal to me, since it was his idea to come over anyway and I hadn't told the kids he was coming over. We had a pleasant conversation about what it is like staying at his parents' house. He asked about the kids and I told him about their activities today. He didn't ask to speak to them and I didn't offer to get them. He was using his gentle, kind voice, not the cold, cruel WH voice.

He had told me, when he called me earlier in the week, that he had 'plans' today. When he called tonight, he told me about the weather at his parents' house today (it's by a lake nearby), as if he had been there most of the day. I wonder if he had MOW up for the day at his parents' house. Ick!!! If he did, I hope she enjoyed seeing all the pictures of our family all over the walls.


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Oh, I found out that if we refinance the mortgage loan, I could probably afford to buy out WH's half of the house with my share of the equity. Of course, he would have to agree to refinance.

So now I am even less impressed by his threat to make me sell the house.


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That would certainly take care of the moving issue. I don't know why you would need to refinance with your husband's permission. As long as you split assets, the lawyer could certainly work that out. Refinancing right now should still be really competitive. My WW still wants the D. We have three houses, so to split the equity, she'll take out a big second on one of the houses, give it to me, and I'll refinance the home I'm in now.

She'll be really ticked next weekend though when she hears DS8 isn't going back to Europe. The lawyer says I'm in a pretty strong position to get custody. I'm essentially reversing the parenting plan, and she won't be able to come to the U.S. as much as I can go there for various reasons. I may be in Plan B soon. WW broke up with OM a week ago Monday. Serious depression. Maybe you already read <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

If/when your WH comes back, you might want him to hang out at a neutral site for a couple of weeks while his brain drugs wear off <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />.

I'm thinking about you Pebbles. Be safe.

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Hi, KaylaAndy.

Would you please provide that link in plain text, it didn't work for me.

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Hi, Pebbles.

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Gimble, I'm glad you brought this up. I do need to prepare my mom for what to expect and how to handle being my intermediary. I looked in SAA again last night and couldn't find anything about how to prepare an intermediary. My mom has volunteered for the job, but I don't want her to be at the receiving end of WH's anger and I don't want to add any undue stress to her life. What kinds of things should she be prepared for? And how should I tell her to handle them?
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Having a male to act as intermediary would be better, but sometimes you have to use what is available. How is your mom at being very straight and matter of fact? She would have to be capable of putting your wayward husband in his place if his anger leaks out toward her.

As to what she should be prepared for, that would have to be whatever she lets him do. Ideally, she simply passes messages of import, only after having been properly filtered.

"You need to pick the kids up at 8:00."

Things she should be able to filter, that never make it to your ears;

"Husband said you were low down and no good. He and other woman burned your plan B letter".

That should be filtered, unless it went something like this;

"Husband said you were low down and no good. He and other woman burned your plan B letter, and caught his apartment on fire."

While it might not help your peace, it would certainly make you feel better :-)

I am sure that others with good solid Plan B advice will filter in over the next couple of days. You may want to change the subject of your thread to something like "Getting ready for Plan B - need advice"

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Gimble, I've editted this to comply with TOS as posted by Tempest. See the "Other Web Sites" section.

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I may be in Plan B soon. WW broke up with OM a week ago Monday. Serious depression. Maybe you already read <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />
I have been following your thread. You sure have a lot going on! Poor WW, feeling depressed (insert sarcasm here). I guess losing one's boyfriend (emphasis on 'boy') <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> will do that, along with leaving one's family behind.

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If/when your WH comes back, you might want him to hang out at a neutral site for a couple of weeks while his brain drugs wear off
You know, my mind can't even think that far ahead right now. WH always sounds like he's happy to talk to me when he calls, but then he's so underhanded and weird with the legal stuff. Maybe there's an alien debriefing center somewhere.

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I'm thinking about you Pebbles. Be safe.
Thanks, Sleepless. I'm rooting for you, too.

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Now that's not nice, leaving a cliff-hanger like that. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> You've got to come back and finish your sentence.


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How is your mom at being very straight and matter of fact? She would have to be capable of putting your wayward husband in his place if his anger leaks out toward her.
My mom is very good at being straight and matter of fact. I just hope it's not too internally stressful for her. She has always been able to stand up for herself and not take any you-know-what.

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"Husband said you were low down and no good. He and other woman burned your plan B letter, and caught his apartment on fire."
Hee, hee, no, that message wouldn't need to be filtered.

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You may want to change the subject of your thread to something like "Getting ready for Plan B - need advice"
Thanks for the suggestion, Gimble. In fact, I shamelessly cut and pasted it as the subject of my thread.


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WH just called again, that's twice in two days. He asked to take the kids out to dinner Wed. night. I found out from my son, later, that WH wants to take the kids to get me a Mother's Day card 'or something.'

He didn't ask to speak to the kids. I asked him if he wanted to. He spoke to our son, but our daughter didn't want to talk to him.

Now that he's so angry with me about the legal issues, why is he calling more often - and being nice when he calls - and planning to help the kids get something for me for Mother's Day? I don't get it.

I'm starting my Plan B letter after the kids are asleep.


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Okay, here is a rough draft of my Plan B letter. I borrowed heavily from the format of starz's Plan B letter, which she said in her thread was basic MB with a few personal items added. Of course, I changed the personal items to fit my circumstances.

My Dear Bam-Bam,

I have loved you since the first moment I met you 23 years ago. I still love you now, and will probably always love you. It is so ingrained in me, I doubt that I could quit loving you if I tried. But I cannot live this way any longer.

I apologize to you for my part in creating an environment that helped make your affair with ..... possible. I know I put emphasis on the wrong things. I focused too much on the children, my job, and my own interests. I neglected to take care of you and appreciate you in the way you deserve, and for this I am truly sorry. I am willing to avoid the mistakes I have made in the past and create a new life for both of us that will meet your needs. I have already shown a willingness to change. But I cannot do anything more until you end your relationship with ......

Until then, I will avoid seeing you or talking to you. If you wish to communicate with me about any legal matters, you can call my lawyer. If you need to communicate with me regarding our children, please contact my mother. If there are things you need from the house or garage, please contact my mother to arrange a time to pick them up.

I ask you to respect my decision to separate from you this way. You must know about the suffering I have endured because of your relationship with ......, and I simply cannot be in contact with you any longer knowing that you are still in contact with her. I still love you and I have no desire to hurt you, but I cannot see you under these conditions. As soon as you are willing to permanently separate from ..... and are willing to protect our relationship from her and all other women, I will be willing to discuss our future together.

I want us to be able to rebuild our marriage some day. I want us to be able to meet each other’s needs and to avoid doing anything to hurt each other. We need to build a new lifestyle in which everything we do makes us both happy. Then there will never again be a reason for us to separate. I want to be your best friend, someone who is always there for you when you need me. And I want you as my best friend. Forever.

I loved you when I first met you, I loved you when we were married and when our children were born. I loved you through our sadness and our joys, and I continue to love you right up to this day. I just cannot see you or talk to you as long as you are communicating with or seeing ....


With my love,
Pebbles

Please let me know what I should add, change, or delete to make my Plan B letter more effective. When it receives final approval, I plan to hand write it on nice stationery and hand deliver it.

Thank you!

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Hi, Pebbles.

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WH just called again, that's twice in two days. He asked to take the kids out to dinner Wed. night. I found out from my son, later, that WH wants to take the kids to get me a Mother's Day card 'or something.'
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Interesting. You weren't invited?

Is it paranoia, or does the setup sound suspicious to you too?

The mixed signals regarding the legal and his being a dad, and still being your husband, even if he thinks he doesn't want to be, is pretty normal. The fun part for you, is trying to figure out what part is mixed up, or coached, or bad choices. If you can't figure it out, assume all three :-)

My guess would be that he wants to help the kids honor you as their mother due to his guilt, and because he is probably feeling cheesy about getting other woman a present for mothers day.

I like your Plan B letter, but wait and get others comments. Definitely don't deliver it to him until the legal issues are handled.

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Interesting. You weren't invited?

Is it paranoia, or does the setup sound suspicious to you too?
No, I wasn't invited. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> He seemed surprised that I agreed to let the kids go with him. Maybe it's paranoia on my part, too, but the setup does sound suspicious to me. What do you think he may have in mind? I don't really think he would take the children and not return them to me, but I must admit that the possibility is something I fear.

Edited to add: I don't want to overreact. He is probably just acting out of guilt or trying to be nice.

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The mixed signals regarding the legal and his being a dad, and still being your husband, even if he thinks he doesn't want to be, is pretty normal. The fun part for you, is trying to figure out what part is mixed up, or coached, or bad choices. If you can't figure it out, assume all three :-)
So, this is what normal feels like?! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Good to know, at least.

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Ick. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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I like your Plan B letter, but wait and get others comments. Definitely don't deliver it to him until the legal issues are handled.
Thank you. I should know if he signs the custody/visitation agreement in a few days (when his 10-day limit ends). If he doesn't sign, then we'll have to go to court. If he doesn't sign, should I go ahead and Plan B now - or wait until we go to court?

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Hi, Pebbles.

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I think it would be a good idea to wait until time is up to make that decision.

Situations tend to change rapidly at this stage of 'the game'.

I didn't mean to scare you with the paranoia. I am just wondering if other woman will be in close proximity while he is shopping and dining. He may need a gentle reminder that the other woman in proximity to your children is unacceptable.

"Hubby, I hope that you will honor my stipulation that the children are not to be around John's wife."

Time for me to sleep now :-)

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"Hubby, I hope that you will honor my stipulation that the children are not to be around John's wife."
Oh! Yes, I will gently remind him. No need to chance the children running into the mother replacement while shopping for Mother's Day. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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Time for me to sleep now
Good night, Gimble, or is it good morning? Thanks again.


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Pebs - I'll reply again later after reviewing your letter, but I wanted to float these thoughts to you in the meantime.

Plan B with kids is dern difficult. Been there done that.

Plan B is also easily ridiculed and misunderstood by anyone not familiar with the disease of infidelity or MB principles. Very easily ridiculed and misunderstood. There's been more than a few Plan B'ers reporting how their WS's attorneys have twisted and rebutted the Plan B letter into accusations of childish "silent treatment" to the detriment of "smooth family functioning" <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> and have threatened legal action if the BS doesn't improve their communications. It's harmful to the children. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

I mention this not to dampen your plans for Plan B, but to support my recommendation that you have your attorney buy-in to the Plan B approach. Loan him/her your copy of SAA. Discuss potential reactions of your husband. Just plan ahead.

I do not think having your Mom as intermediary is a smart idea for the reasons already mentioned - she'll have understandable difficulty staying away from the LBs, etc., and your H will likely not be inclined to view her as objective or be cooperative.

Further, In my view, the intermediary scheme is the weakest piece of the entire MB approach. What sane person - other than a Mom or a die hard MBer - would agree to such a role?

These thoughts motivated me to not have an intermediary for my Plan B. Instead, I stipulated in my letter that communication needed to be limited to that needed for our son and that was to be accomplished via e-mail or other written forms. This worked in my sitch. It also affords the BS more control over communications. An intermediary, despite good intentions, can deliver a lot of unintended messages in both directions.

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I'll throw another opinion in here...

I would NOT allow a visit with WH...alone...until the papers are signed. Where is the incentive for him to sign them? Also, what recourse do you have if she "shows up" (which is very likely).

You can offer to go, but keep your distance, or for them not to go at all...or for the paper work to get back to you, and hten they can go...if they want to...DD may choose not to, and I wouldn't force her, there will be plenty of time later.

WH wants to normalize his A as soon as possible, by including the kids into his fantasy.

What will likely happen is OW will not leave her H, and WH and Pebs will be D. After the fallout WH will look back onto the mess that is his life and want to get back to the happy family with you. Will you have enough love left? How will you protect that love?


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A few suggestions on your letter -

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I have loved you since the first moment I met you 23 years ago. I still love you now, and will probably always love you. It is so ingrained in me, I doubt that I could quit loving you if I tried. But I cannot live this way any longer.

You will not probably "always" love him, so please consider not saying this. Further, you did not love him from the first moment you met him, right? So don't say that, either.

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I apologize to you for my part in creating an environment that helped make your affair with ..... possible. I know I put emphasis on the wrong things. I focused too much on the children, my job, and my own interests. I neglected to take care of you and appreciate you in the way you deserve, and for this I am truly sorry. I am willing to avoid the mistakes I have made in the past and create a new life for both of us that will meet your needs. I have already shown a willingness to change. But I cannot do anything more until you end your relationship with ......

Please consider working into this passage the pain you're enduring and the threat the continued affair has upon your love for him.

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Until then, I will avoid seeing you or talking to you. If you wish to communicate with me about any legal matters, you can call my lawyer. If you need to communicate with me regarding our children, please contact my mother. If there are things you need from the house or garage, please contact my mother to arrange a time to pick them up.


Please consider working into this paragraph that the reason you need to minimize contact with him is to minimize your pain and to preserve what remaining love you have. If you don't say this, it appears you're limiting contact as some sort of punishment to him.

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As soon as you are willing to permanently separate from ..... and are willing to protect our relationship from her and all other women, I will be willing to discuss our future together.

I suggest you change this to something like, "As soon as you are willing to commit to our marriage and family, I will be willing to discuss our future together." Reason: don't focus on OW or other women. Solely leaving OW isn't enough - it's merely the start.

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We need to build a new lifestyle in which everything we do makes us both happy.

Change "We need...." to "We can..." or "We have the opportunity...." Saying "We need...." is controlling.

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I loved you when I first met you, I loved you when we were married and when our children were born. I loved you through our sadness and our joys, and I continue to love you right up to this day. I just cannot see you or talk to you as long as you are communicating with or seeing ....


Again, you didn't love him when you first met.

You cannot see him or talk to him because of the pain it causes you and to preserve your remaining love.

Hope this helps.

For another example, here is a letter I helped a former poster prepare. Not necessarily perfect, just another example:
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Dear Husband,

My thoughts I’ve recently expressed to you to convey my love for you and my hope for our family were genuine. Much has happened recently, but even today I still love you and want a chance to repair our relationship and provide a healthy home for our baby. I have grown tremendously from these experiences and I ask you to look back over this period and see the changes for yourself. No, I’m not perfect, but I believe I have made significant improvements. [Briefly state the most important thing you’ve changed to correct his complaints] Whatever happens to us, these changes are permanent in me and I am a better person because of them and our baby will benefit from them because I will be a better Mother. I feel much better about myself as a person. I am excited about my future as a Mother. I wish for you to be together with us and to be able to see the baby and I together each day.

I know I have other improvements to make - and you can help me. In short, I can and will avoid the mistakes I’ve made in the past. We have an opportunity to create a new life for the three of us that will meet all of our needs. We owe it to ourselves and to our baby to try hard. Choosing not to try may seem to be the easy way out, but it leaves the same problems unsolved and creates more difficult ones.

You may not know what I have endured because of your decision to separate and because of your relationship with [OW]. I fully realize that these things were just symptoms of pre-existing problems. But all of these problems are fixable. I have worked hard by myself on this. I still love you, but now I find that it is just too painful for me to continue by myself. Seeing and talking to you is just a constant reminder of the pain that I feel. It is not healthy for either me or the baby. I just cannot see or talk to you and try to be your friend under these conditions any longer - until you are ready to put this behind us permanently and are willing to try to rebuild our family. Simply put, I am now separating from you in order to protect myself from the stresses and from further pain and to protect my love for you until you are ready to commit to rebuilding our family. I understand that you may have your own pain and that I may be the source of your pain, but these things are fixable if we are willing to try.

In short, please decide on continuing your relationship with OW or having a family with me and the baby. You can’t have both.

Until you decide, please only initiate communication with me that is absolutely necessary and then only via e-mail or voice mail. Do not call me to see how I’m doing or to inquire about the baby. In case of an emergency, contact [provide contact name]. I realize contact to resolve financial issues may be unavoidable from time to time, but I will minimize this and I ask you to do the same.

I ask you to respect my decision to separate from you in this way, but I’d much rather rebuild our relationship. The baby and I are the two people who together can help you become happy for the rest of your life. We are a permanent reality, here for the long haul, and we have a lot of good memories for the foundation of a family. Similarly, you can make the two of us very, very happy. I will support any need you have in a non-judgmental way when or if you decide to recommit to our marriage. You can come to me in safety, knowing I will embrace you. Even if you’re not sure, I will understand and provide empathy.

As soon as you are willing to commit to working to save our marriage, I will be willing to talk about our future, and the future of our family. We can build a new lifestyle in which everything we do makes us both happy. Then, there will never be a need for us to separate again. I have communicated with many other couples who have achieved this and ended up with better relationships than before. I want to be your best friend, someone who is always there for you when you need me. And I want you as my best friend.

I love you,


WAT

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WAT, thank you so much for your input and advice on my Plan B letter and Plan B in general.

I am thinking about using contact through e-mail, about the children only. That would spare my mother the stress of being the intermediary, and avoid the delivery of unintended messages. Plus, WH might be hesitant to contact my mother, knowing she is upset (to say the least) with him right now. I suppose if WH tried to insert other topics in his e-mails, I could reply only to child-related questions/comments. Also, it might not be considered the "silent treatment" by WH's lawyer, since contact about the children is allowed. I would still okay this with my lawyer. Would I need to include something in my Plan B letter about e-mail contact about the children only, no other topics?

I saw another Plan B letter draft here on the board (edited: the letter was not so you neak's - my brain cells are fading) that has parts that look like they would work very well in my circumstances. Maybe I could cut and paste parts of it instead of/in addition to what I have. I am afraid to branch out too much on my own. And I used to enjoy creative writing so much. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

P.S. I also liked the letter you included in your post. I could use some ideas from it as well.

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