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Hi, Gimble.

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Chances are, if they call, it will probably be afternoon tomorrow.
Nothing so far. It's about 3:15. Of course, they may not even call. They may not think they need to call, they may be too upset, or they may just think I'm crazy. I just hope one of the parents signed for the letter, not MOW. The USPS website said it had been signed for by "T 1." Anyone know what that means? I should get a copy of the actual signature by email in a couple days.

I am wondering...knowing their values and culture, and being parents of a daughter, how would they probably react after receiving the letter and information I sent? Assuming they actually see it, of course.

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You did good. I pray for a peaceful sleep for you tonight.
Thanks, Gimble. I did sleep pretty well, as well as possible with my daughter and her best friend having a sleepover in the living room. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I took them to that Build a Bear place earlier today. That's what my daughter said she wanted as her birthday party, the sleepover and Build a Bear. (Aside: Sleepless! That place is expensive!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />). They each got an animal and an outfit for it. My daughter wanted me to make the wish for the felt heart they put inside of the animal before they seal the stuffing in. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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It's 9:45 p.m. Still nothing. I wonder if MOW intercepted the letter. I wonder if anything happened at all.

Edited to add: Today makes a week since WH had spoken to or seen the kids. He probably won't speak to them before they are supposed to spend the night with him Wednesday. Before that, he didn't speak to or see them for two weeks.

As I mentioned before, WH did find time to take MOW to his father's birthday party. All the other grandchildren were there, and it was WH's night to have the kids. He cancelled having the kids overnight so he could take MOW to the party. I also found out he took MOW up to see his mom on Mother's Day. How nice. So, MOW skipped seeing her own son on Mother's Day so she could visit WH's mom.

I know, I know, he's being the typical WS and only thinking about himself. I could just slap him silly for ignoring our kids and choosing to spend time with MOW over them.

Our daughter's birthday is Wednesday. I wonder if he will remember.

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You said they are Japanese, correct? At first, I was thinking they were Chinese and whomever signed may have used characters. However, even in that case, I know nothing about how a Chinese person would "sign" his/her name.
Well, I am pretty helpful, aren't I <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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Thanks, Improving. You tried. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Actually, MOW's parents' last name begins with a "T." I don't know what the "1" has to do with anything. Maybe it's some kind of P.O. code? In a few days I will receive an email letting me know the full name of who signed - but I want to know now! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Patience...patience. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />


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Hi, Pebbles.

Oh, well, it is a lot more fun when an action to break up an affair has an immediate and devastating effect. Unfortunately, it doesn't happen all that often.

In any case, the virus has been injected. Give it time. If by wednesday, you haven't heard from John's wife's folks, give them a call simply to find out if they received the package and if they have any questions.

Other than that, let it ride.

I expect that the excrement will impact the rotational airfoil device in a relatively short period of time. Stand clear of the fallout.

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That's how I see it. If, as my MIL says, MOW's parents should judge WH "on his own merits," they should know all the facts he has kept from them - and the outright lies he has told them to their faces (one being he had been divorced for a year!).

If I were MOW's parents, I certainly would not want my daughter to be involved with someone who has done the things described in the letter I sent them.


That's how I see it. MOW parents should know the truth now, before they discover it later. No matter how old you are, your parents tend to maintain a little influence on you. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />


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I took them to that Build a Bear place earlier today. That's what my daughter said she wanted as her birthday party, the sleepover and Build a Bear. (Aside: Sleepless! That place is expensive!! ).


Ohhh yeah. I know. We built TWO!! WW got a horse with a sound box inside. DS8 recorded a horse sound and said "I love you mom". She was born the year of the Fire Horse in the Chinese Zodiac. That means something to all of our Asian friends reading. DS8 knew mom was sad, and wanted to make her one. I wonder if she sleeps with the Teddy Bear OM19 got her AND the horse from DS8. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" /> (Ooops. Now my skin is crawling...) THEN! DS8 wanted to make a GI Joe Bear with the camouflage outfit. He named it after one of the Marine Guards at the Embassy that used to watch him. The bear is Mike the Marine. Really nice young man (the Marine). So I dropped about what you did. Charge your husband! Considering the $10,000 in lawyer fees.... so far and the $6000 in Pschologist fees.... so far, I figured I didn't need to skimp on DS8, since WW kept his stuffed monkeys in Europe. I'm REALLY trying not to get soft on this stuff. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

She had you make the wish? That's really nice. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> DS8 spent a long time on the wish.... Hmmm.


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Build a Bear sure does add up quick! But they are cute and cuddly. Nothing wrong with cuddly.

You've been a busy, busy girl. Good for you. With all that has been discovered...do you still want WH? I sometimes wonder if I even want WH to return to H. It makes me sad. Being an alien is no excuse for not being human. I wonder what kind of man would do the hurtful things he has done and not feel any remorse.

(wow, sorry to be such a downer..just read my post) Check my thread for an up date. I am thinking of posting under another name as I think OW and/or WH lurks. Thats why I haven't been posting much I don't want to give her any info.


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I expect that the excrement will impact the rotational airfoil device in a relatively short period of time. Stand clear of the fallout.
Gimble, you have such a way with words. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

I will call John's wife's parents Wed. or Thurs., if I do not hear from them before that. If I get the signature confirmation by email stating one of the parents signed for the packet, should I still call them? I don't want to 'harrass' them.

I was just notified by email that this morning my FIL picked up and signed for the packet I sent the inlaws.

Still no backlash...yet.

I think I'll let any phone calls on the home phone go straight to the answering machine today (inlaws would call that number). I gave MOW's parents my cell number.


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Wow, Sleepless! You've really laid out some serious attorney fees! And I thought I had it bad...and I've "only" spent about a fifth of that, so far.

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I'm REALLY trying not to get soft on this stuff.
Everyone needs something soft and cuddly now and then. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Although, the thought of your WW sleeping clutching the OM's teddy bear along with your son's horse is a bit nauseating. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

I sleep with a weiner dog, myself. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


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With all that has been discovered...do you still want WH? I sometimes wonder if I even want WH to return to H.
Confused, I would only want WH back as H, because I do remember how good our life together was, for a long time. He would absolutely have to agree to MB principles and counseling, and he would have to be sincere in wanting to recommit to our marriage and family - which I don't see happening any time soon, if ever. It would take a miracle at this point, I think.

I did read your update. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Like you said, being an alien is no excuse for not being human. They could try to maintain a little shred of decency and dignity, if only for show.

I have wondered if my WH or MOW lurk here, too. Scary thought.


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Our home phone has been ringing a lot this evening. I told the kids to let the answering machine pick up the calls. Our caller ID is not working (long story), so I don't know who the calls are from. None of the callers have left a message. Could be telemarketers, could be inlaws, could be just about anybody.

WH did call this evening. He first called the home phone (told son he tried a few times, no message), then tried my cell (I saw it was him and didn't answer, he didn't leave a voicemail), then son's cell phone. WH asked son where we had been and why we didn't answer the phone. He spoke to son for a few seconds, then spoke to daughter for a few seconds. She said he asked her what she would like for her birthday and what she would like for dinner Wednesday night. At least he remembered her birthday. WH did not ask to speak to me.

Still no calls about the letters to MOW's parents or the inlaws.

Edited to add: Today is the 6-month anniversay of D-day and the day WH left. Whoopee!

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Pebbles -- same here. After MIL's chest-beating dramatic rant, it's been peace and silence here. It's a respite I need, but I can't help wondering what else is happening too. LOL! Guess that's human nature.

But you know, being Asians, perhaps your MOW's parents would deal with it more privately and wld not keep u updated on what they said/ did in their home or with MOW.

WH's bday is this Fri.. I don't know if I shld even wish him at all. Shld I just bypass it as another day?? smirk Any opinions?

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Hi, Ashley.

Well, in a way there has been silence, but the phone has been ringing off and on all evening. When the answering machine picks up, the caller hangs up. I wish my caller ID was working; it should be up and running tomorrow. There was a call at 8:45 and again at 9:00. Telemarketers usually don't call that late, and my family would know to call on my cell if I didn't answer the phone (or they'd leave a message).

Thank you for the cultural perspective on why MOW's parents might not call me. It makes sense that if they are ashamed, they would want to keep the matter in the family. I would just like to know that they actually saw the letter/information. The copy of the actual signature from USPS by email will let me know, if it would just get here.

I posted something about your WH's birthday on your thread. But, of course, take my advice with a large grain of salt. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


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Edited to add: Today is the 6-month anniversay of D-day and the day WH left. Whoopee!


I'm so dense. Is that a paper anniversary? Like a rolled up paper to smack WS on the nose with?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Bad WS! Bad! Bad! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />


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Weird... caller hanging up? Sure sounds something's fishy's going on. I don't think your IL's wld call and then hang up wld they?

Thx for posting in my thread BTW.

So anniv is this Fri too huh?? R you going to plan for something really fun?? Wld help keep yr mind off things!

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Actually, Ashley, I wouldn't be surprised if my MIL called and hung up without leaving a message. She has done it before, then sounded hurt when she got ahold of me/us later, "I tried to call you!"

WH doesn't like to leave messages, either, but just since he left. I wonder why? Maybe it has something to do with conflict avoidance for WH?

I am still working on plans for the 16th anniversary Friday. I have to do something!! Three friends I've called will be out of town on vacations. My mom and dad have offered to keep the kids overnight that night. I told them I am going to do something!


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I'm so dense. Is that a paper anniversary? Like a rolled up paper to smack WS on the nose with?? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Bad WS! Bad! Bad! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/pfft.gif" alt="" />
You're so funny, Sleepless. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Thanks. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />


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Hi, Pebbles.

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I will call John's wife's parents Wed. or Thurs., if I do not hear from them before that. If I get the signature confirmation by email stating one of the parents signed for the packet, should I still call them? I don't want to 'harrass' them.
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If they don't call you, I think you should call them for your sake. That's not harassment. If they ask you not to call again, you apologize and hang up. Keep it basic and simple.

What you have done with this exposure is remove another layer of the deception. All affairs are built on deception. Remove enough layers and there is nothing left.

You are doing well, Pebbles.

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Hi, Gimble.

Still nothing.

Our power was out for a while today (our phones won't work without power)and I didn't hook up our new caller ID phone/answering machine until late this evening (had to replace the dead one). In other words, if anyone called I wouldn't know.

I also didn't realize I left my cell phone off all day (duh!). There were no missed calls from inlaws, WH, or MOW's parents (Aside: Surviving, just now got your message! Will call back Wed. Sorry!)

Should I be surprised that no one has called about the letters/information? Do they not care or just think I'm crazy? Maybe the exposure was just too late to do any good?

WH is scheduled to pick up the kids at 6 p.m. tomorrow. It's my baby's 10th birthday. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Bam Bam has missed out on half a year of our kids' lives. Now he is like an uncle they occasionally visit who gives them presents. It seems like he just doesn't notice or care what he's missing - or maybe he likes it that way. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Another lovely benefit of the affair. I have to pay 25% more for my health insurance than first quoted because my doctor (who I visited once back in Feb. right after WH left) gave me a diagnosis of "adjustment disorder with depressed mood." He diagnosed me, but wouldn't prescribe ADs unless the problem persisted for several months. I lost my health insurance a few weeks after that and haven't been back.
Stupid affair, stupid anniversary, stupid health insurance. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Rant over, for now. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />


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