I don't know what she'll think, but I sent her my B letter again...

I JUST HAD TO SAY AMEN TO THIS!!!

That's basically what she is wanting....

A response to my response:
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I’ve read it, don’t need to do it again, the truth still remains, you are setting a poor example for our daughter and she deserves better. Punish me in a different way if you need to, not her.

Okay Gramn. No response needed to this one, except you could send "Hah, hah, hah, hah, hah, hah!" On second thought, dont send that! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Poor example for your daughter? You know the Federal government should outlaw the use of Fog like it does crack, heroin and meth. That fog stuff is mind blowing!!

You know what you would like to say to her. "You are the one setting the bad example. No one is punishing you or our daughter. She is being punished by your immoral behavior and bad choices."

I know you want to say it, Gramn. I feel it with you. And you would be right in saying it. But as STeve Harley said once to me..."Do you want to be right, or do you want to be married?"

So, stay dark. Send PBLs periodically in response to her drivel. Vent here all you want!!!

You're fine. As we have been telling you, your situation has so far gone exactly by the book!

In His arms.

Gramm no response is the best policy.

I can't help but comment about the poor example comment from your wife

The audacity of her to say that to you, and I wonder what kind of role model she thinks she is being when she has blatantly entered into an extramarital affair, lacks integrity, has respect for no one (including daughter) How is any of this a good example for your daughter.

You can hold your head up high Gramm

GOOD JOB!!

Can I ask why you have to see each other every morning at day care?

I think I resent that. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

And to think, I was called a 'girlyman' on another thread this morning; and now I'm coldblooded.

Just having fun.

Gramn, I'm confused as to why you both have to be at the daycare together. When my W drops off the kids and she wants me to pick them up, she leaves one of the car seats (we only have one extra) at the day care so it's no big deal.

I never see my wife until she gets home from her activity, and in your case it would be never.

What's the deal?

Melody & Hardhead:
We've gotten in the habit for whoever did not spend the night with DD to show up at the Daycare in the morning to say hello to her. Now with Plan B, I have been trying to arrive when WW won't be there, or at least make our car seat exchanges as short as possible. (I might have a friend's car seat available too) I can't stop her from showing up, but I can not be there myself or make my coming and going as short as possible.
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Here is WW's SECOND response email. (All I've sent her is my B letter)
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Ok, you need to stop this. I can’t imagine us as parents not talking, and DD going through this is not healthy for her. I need you to stop thinking only of yourself and the anger you are feeling and put her above all else. She worries me, [DD's TEACHER] said it was beginning to show, that she was having trouble following directions and listening. I am not saying you need to talk to me about anything but the regular day to day stuff, but you do need to at least put on a façade for her.

I saw [Psychologist] on Tuesday and he was right. I told him you made me feel like I had taken everything important from you, and you’re wrong. I took one thing, our marriage, I decided we are not going to be married anymore. But there is no reason why the rest of your life can’t be better and move forward. You are young, attractive, and frankly, have every possibility of rebuilding a life for yourself. Why on earth would you want to make me believe that I have that kind of influence on you?

I am not saying I won’t respect your space, I am just saying that in front of our daughter, you need to be a more civilized human being because right now you’re not. You have no right to show her that it’s ok to hate me which is how you’re acting. We are trying to raise a polite, well behaved, happy little girl but what we are showing her is the exact opposite.

She notices when you don’t say hi to me, she notices when you leave without saying goodbye, she notices when you don’t even ask how I am. I can’t have her around that. God only knows what you tell her about me and what kind of pressure she is being put under by your family, but stop it, she is innocent in all of this and doesn’t deserve to be the victim.

Al I want is for you to agree to be a decent person to me while you are in front of her. Answer the phone like a decent person, be civilized to me when you see me and she is with us.

I don’t think it’s much when you consider it’s for her.

Oh good grief! She wants a polite, happy little girl so she decides to divorce the sweet little things dad and bring slimeball into the picture. Gramn, do not buy into this shyte. Man, you know who she sounds like in her rantings? My H's OW!! Talk about entitlement and denial. Ugh...do not bite, do not bite, do not bite.

If I may ask, why did you get into this habit? Do you think this is helpful for your daughter?

What your WW is saying is bizarre...

She is trying to project her own wrongdoing onto you...

She is the one that is hurting your daughter..She is the one that has chosen this...

She is trying to MAKE RIGHT WHAT IS DEFINITELY WRONG....

It might be best to block her E-Mails..

The E-Mails are allowing continued contact with you..

Do you have an intermediary?

Gramm

Your WW responses make me laugh and shack my head at the same time, definitely fog talk. It's alright for WW to treat you with no respect, and now she thinks she is in a position to ask you to treat her with respect because somehow she thinks she is on some moral high ground - really!

Respect is not the issue for her - it is control and plan B has taken that away from WW and she doesn't like it so WW is turning it around and putting it back on you Gramm because it couldn't possibly be WW doing could it!

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I need you to stop thinking only of yourself

I can't believe this statement - what has WW been doing for a very long time!

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All I want is for you to agree to be a decent person to me

You are a decent person Gramm, she just can't see this at the moment.

You know what I noticed from that Gramm? She mentioned that she wanted you to talk to her. It appears that she is used to having her emotional need of conversation met by you and the om. It appears that she is pissed off that you won't meet her emotional need of conversation.

Sure she is. She says this is all about DD, but it's really not. Through all of this I have been trying to talk to and support her. Well, not now...

Sounds like the WW is doing what they all do when they control of the BS, going quite crazy! And of course, she portrays it as all bad for DD,hehee Gramm, we told you this would happen. I just don't understand why in the world you are continuing to meet her at DD daycare in the morning when you are in Plan B. That should have been the first thing to go.

p.s. meeting your WW at the day care every day is nothing more than a ruse designed to make the WW feel less guilty for breaking up her family. She is demanding that you compensate for her destructive choices and make her feel better. The reality is that when parents are divorced, they don't both see their child every day.She wants to use your DD as an excuse to protect her from that reality.

She needs to see what it will be like when you are DIVORCED, that is the goal of Plan B.

This is what I was saying...

I totally agree with MEL on this....

Seems like you guys are trying to create a fantasy that you are not separated...

WSes continue to try to create a FANTASY WORLD..this should not be enabled....

You don't understand... I was bringing DD to Daycare. I had to go. WW just showed up...

ok, and what about the days that SHE has her?