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Sgt. P. beat me to it. Now you don't need to wonder, weaver.

Get to your lawyer first thing tomorrow.

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Oh weaver, I am so sorry. I was hoping that I was just being cynical. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

Your motives were honest and compassionate. Take heart in knowing that and owning it, and then take action--legal action.

I hope you're ok and am looking forward to hearing from you to know that you are ok.

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Weaver, you are a wonderful woman and have helped me so much. Thank you for that, You deserve only the very best.


A smooth sea never made a skilled mariner.
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Thank you so much everybody.

I read this thread and it fills the part of my soul that is broken.

He was not at the island, nor anywhere in town. We searched everywhere.

I drank straight Jack Daniels all night and went back over to the island this morning.

I talked to the people we bought the property from. They say they knew always that something wasn't right. They said he is a con artist, but everybody always wants to believe him because he is so likeable.

I talked to mutual friends, a couple who lives by me and they said they have always known he was a liar, but they always overlooked it, hoping somehow they were wrong.

I am going to allow myself this one more day of self-pity and then I am done. I will not be a victim. Never again.

My daughter will never see his face again, or see her mom cry or love somebody who only meant us pain. Five years of pain and doing things that I would never do. Namely going back to someone who betrayed both me and my DD and his ex-wife.

I will never, ever allow evil into my home again.

My DD's dad talked to me this morning and told me he watched his mother go through this for 10 years with a man just like Dan. He said that he remembers the lies, the broken promises even that the man told him through the time he was 8 until he was 18. He watched his mother slowly fall apart and turn her back on the whole world while she sat waiting at home for a liar and a cheat.

Dan does not care of what he has taken from me, or what he has stolen from my daughter - a healthy and whole mom.

I am going to sleep now because I have been drinking since last night but tomorrow I will never look behind me or towards him again.

I am sorry, I am just hurting more than I can stand right now. I just can't believe what has happened.

And I don't know why because I read it here everyday, but it never makes any sense. It just doesn't make any sense to me.

How people can hurt others so badly and still live with themselves. And still they laugh, and they live and they eat and they sleep. And life goes on for them. But the ones who never lied, or hurt another get to live with pain, maybe without trust for the rest of their lives. Their innocence has been brutely taken from them but they must find a way to go on and be happy again, and trust again and love again.

He can have the property, I am not going to drag this on anymore. I am not going to allow vengence into my heart.

I may feel differently when I am sober and call a lawyer, but for this day I am looking towards God for justice. Dan will not profit from my loss or my love, not forever. I know that he will slowly rot from the inside out, like all adulterers, liars and theives eventually do.

Goodnight all.

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My dear Weaver,

The pain that a WS puts a family through plus the baggage of former choices, hits home and often hits hard when the BS realizes how much they have been taken advantage of.

In reality, your pain is now and temporary. His is farther away and permanent. You can move forward and do better, he can't run away from himself.

Don't fret or worry for him. These are his choices, his consquences.

Please take care of yourself and your daughter. You have people willing to tell you the truth. This is valuable. It will hurt like medicine but w/b part of your healing.

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How people can hurt others so badly and still live with themselves. And still they laugh, and they live and they eat and they sleep. And life goes on for them. But the ones who never lied, or hurt another get to live with pain, maybe without trust for the rest of their lives. Their innocence has been brutely taken from them but they must find a way to go on and be happy again, and trust again and love again.


Well, you don't even have to be religious to understand "What goes around, comes around." I like the more Calvinistic: "God is not mocked." If you've seen this principle in action enough, you can trust to karma.

And your lawyer. Please get a lawyer. Don't go after vengeance -- just let the lawyer figure out what can be retrieved.

You will be sadder, and wiser. And if you really wish "never to let evil into your home again" you will NEED to be wiser. Naive fools can't do it.


"Virtue -- even attempted virtue -- brings light; indulgence brings fog." -- C.S. Lewis
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(((((weaver)))))))
You are on my mind, and I hope you feel better after some rest.


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Remember how offended he was when you, hoping to see that your DD's vacation wasn't spoiled, gave him a hard time about the "surgery"? 'Member?

Weaver, promise me...

You.
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Sleep now you rummy. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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Thanks for checking in weaver <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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No, this "man" will never darken my doorstep again. I can promise that.

I have switched to wine GC. I will be a non drinker by tomorrow. Rummy? too funny.

I did not sleep I have been on the phone all this time. I called our former mayor, a very smart lady and old family friend. She is the one, remember who made her recovering alcoholic husband sign a post-nup regarding his never drinking again or all would be lost.

She recommended who she says is a very bright female lawyer. The lady who sold us the property, called to recommend another good lawyer, and I have two more.

AM Martin & GC, I value both of your advice and you are right. "A naive fool cannot keep evil out" is right. I will not put my tail between my legs and pray that justice is served. I must fight back. I did no wrong. I infact was wronged and will take action.

He will at the very least have to think about this, if even through his wallet Pep.

He *ucked three wives before me and walked away scott free. Now is time that the buck stops.

IF a lawyer will take my case, I will sue him. I will spend money to stand up and say it is not okay to do what you have done.

His last three ex-wives and even his kids can't do it, so I will. His kids will see, through me that lying and cheating do not pay.

His kids, remember, did not tell me he was married even going on a vacation and not letting on that he was already marrie. His kids stand by him, regardless of what he does because he has taught them that he is the victim. His mom did not let on that he was married either. His mom BTW did tell me the truth that their was no surgery but then she must have realized her folly and quickly said, "I am sorry, you take care of yourself, goodbye" and hung up the phone with no further conversation with me.

Okay, I will try to sue. I will try to make a stand and say this is NOT OKAY, what you have done to all of us.

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Hi weaver,

I am glad you are going for the jugular.I wish that you never returned to that bum again but now I hope that this most recent event has solidified your feelings on the matter.

{{{weaver}}}

Got get 'em.

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Weaver, I'm so sorry you returned to this! {{{{{weaver}}}}}
On the positive side, at least you know what he is now -- a user and a liar. I'll never understand people like this either! I'll be thinking of you and I hope you nail his @ss to the wall.

I'm glad you enjoyed your vacation. I knew you would. Gatlinburg is where we ended up too. Dinners at the Texas Roadhouse did us in. I know we were served by a relative of Dolly Partin, looked and sounded just like her! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

{{{{Hugs again}}}}}

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Weaver,

There is, as you said before, a time to trust. Without trust, nothing real can be accomplished - in personal life, business life, government. Sometimes anyone can misjudge who to trust and when. There are some, like this snake, who are particularly adept at winning our trust when they don't deserve it.

But, there are others who refuse to put on the fakery, not even to win affection, and certainly not to win something as temporal as money.

Don't give up on finding the real deal.

I wish I was better able to express my thoughts.

You were willing to give him the difference between the value of the property and the price you paid - because you expected something from him. You made a bargain - an exchange - at least in your mind. You exchanged the excess value in the property for the hope of his future love. But that hope was a "pig in a poke". You opened the "poke" and found, nothing. So, you feel that you lost something, but really you didn't, because there was never anything there. The man is hollow - an empty soul - like an empty sack.

It is good that you didn't take possesion of that emptiness.

Now, girl, you've got to put away the drink. It's not going to do you any good.

(Yeah, I know, you know that already.)

I've always been a non-drinker - never drank in my life - but lately, every time I go to the grocery, I'm looking at the wine aisle. It would be nothing new - an old story oft told - "He never drank until his wife left him." But, it is a classic error for us to fall into that at a time like this. Alchohol is no escape. The only escape is through doing what we know is right. But to do that, we have to have hope. Nobody can live without hope. It is like air.

But you have a child. Now, there is the essence of hope.

And, for sure, fight the case!

Get a consultation with the lawyer ASAP - I mean Monday for sure. Some states have clauses where certain contracts can be vacated within a certain time frame. Probably it's already too long, so you'll have to fight it the hard way, but find out ASAP.

AAARGHHH!

I can't stand to see good people suffer.

I'm not prayin' much these days, but I'll pray for you.

-AD


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Oh, and I'm glad you're not in jail - or worse. It may be a good think that you didn't find him.


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I wish I was better able to express my thoughts.

You were willing to give him the difference between the value of the property and the price you paid - because you expected something from him. You made a bargain - an exchange - at least in your mind. You exchanged the excess value in the property for the hope of his future love. But that hope was a "pig in a poke". You opened the "poke" and found, nothing. So, you feel that you lost something, but really you didn't, because there was never anything there. The man is hollow - an empty soul - like an empty sack.

It is good that you didn't take possesion of that emptiness.

Now, girl, you've got to put away the drink. It's not going to do you any good.

(Yeah, I know, you know that already.)

I've always been a non-drinker - never drank in my life - but lately, every time I go to the grocery, I'm looking at the wine aisle. It would be nothing new - an old story oft told - "He never drank until his wife left him." But, it is a classic error for us to fall into that at a time like this. Alchohol is no escape. The only escape is through doing what we know is right. But to do that, we have to have hope. Nobody can live without hope. It is like air.


AD,

These thoughts which you have put into words perfectly are among the wisest I have ever read.

You have it on the head exactly, and eloquently.

No I won't be drinking anymore. And I know that this was the best thing that could have happened to me, as painful and cruel as it was.

My DD will be home from dad's in the morning, and I will be okay. Her dad told her last night that there was no surgery and that Dan is a liar, and that I was sad so we felt it best for her to stay at his house one more night. I don't know why he told her, but I know he believes in being honest with her. We talked about it, and I assured her that he would not hurt me or us again. That sometimes people do bad things to others, but it is not for her worry about.

Thanks AD, now you better climb into that hide-a-bed which is not hidden and get some sleep. LOL Tomorrow is a work day. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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Weaver, I was going to ask how DD is. So, how is she?

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Weaver,

I'm glad you're starting to get back in control now.

Yes, tomorow is a work day.

As my Dad used to say, "Tommorow is another day."

Just now I miss him. He's been gone since '91.


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Weaver, Glad you are intending to fight for your rights. He got that property from you by deception. Show your daughter what a strong woman you are You have so many people rooting for you here. I wish I was there cos I'd love to punch his frigging lights out (I'm sure they'd be a long line ahead of me though)!
Thinking of you Weaver - take care of yourself. TT

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{{{weaver}}}


AaaarAAAARRRGGGHH!!!

HE IS AN AHOLE!!! I am so mad! You were bamboozled and all because you are a good person! And he is a JERK.

So the "clean breakup" and "not being able to handle your AOs" was just an OUT for him, now that he has the property, I guess. Still trying to fool you with that message (I read the other thread 1st). AND I bet you were half-as$ed blaming yourself for a little bit. WHAT A CROCK.

What is sad is that he has probably rationalized this and will do it again. So YES, sue if you can, do something. But if it is TOO much of a pain and uses up too many of your resources (financial or otherwise), then MOve on as best as you can! JMnotsohumbleO

I AM SOOO SORRY weaver,
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