My sympathies to all the UK marriagebuilders, and to all the people of London. There is no excuse for the slaughter of civilians. Al Quaida is nothing but a band of slithering cowards who do not have the courage to fight anyone but innocent women & children.

Ugh...


...When was the last time a group of Christians strapped on bombs and blew up a bus full of people? Why is it that all of the extremists are coming out of Islam and not other religions? Only a question...not meant to offend; nor to accuse.

Its almost like they use their religion as a scapegoat so that they can walk away with this feeling that they aren't mindless killers.

Fox
Theres a long history of Christian atrocity agaist other faiths and even other SECTS of their own faith too. Don't get too totalitarian here....

Well, I know - I just meant lately is all. I'm not saying any religion isn't at fault; I'm well aware of that <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

I guess I'm just talking about actions this serious so often so recent...

I did word my first post wrong - not all of the extremists are coming out of Islam; they come from every religion; but I'm sure you know what i was intending to say.

further comment is pointless.... I am sickened by this...

The terrorists and those associated with them are babbling.....again.

We do know how to handle babblers, right? The sad part is these babbles are still running free creating more chaos. No matter what group they are associated with, as long as they babble and create chaos, they are more than a threat. They are bent on destruction and s/b stopped.

The debate will be how and by whom. The first step is to ID the real culprits and their cohorts. As anyone can see, these babblers are cowards, hiding behind many disguises and pray on the ignorance of innocent ones. Now that's a place to start. Making sure ignorance is reduced so they have less of a crowd to pull from.

JMHO,
L.

All my sympathies to the British citizens.

Let's see if I can say something useful.

How barbaric, to use the word "compassion" in a message that celebrates suffering.

Most of these perpetrators are youthful and ignorant. Their leaders are evangelists for a nihilistic variety of fascism that the world has seen before.

Get the followers to reject the leaders, and you've got something.

GC

Unfortunately, the list is very long.
IRA, CCC (Belgium), RAF, ETA.
Christians blowing up/killing Christians of a slightly different kind.
The civil war in Yugoslavia - Christians killing Christians.

And maybe not by bombs, the weapon of a coward, but killing defenceless persons just the same, for "religious reasons"...
- Germans killing German Jews/Homosexuals/gypsies (WW2)

or for economical/territorial reasons
- aboriginals
- native americans
- South American idians slaughtered by Spanish invaders
- inhabitants of the African continent (millions were killed in Congo to "improve" the rubber export to Belgium)
- the Hutu's and the Tutsi's

I'm probably forgetting a lot.

We need to move on as a whole, as one planet.
There is no other way.
Such terrorists are like serial killers with a fanatic/religious reason for their killing. They do not represent their country, their people, their religion.

My heart goes out to all those who have been hurt in this new disaster.

Bravo BH. great post

Just found out about the bombing. Had eye surgery, so unable to read or watch tv.

To all UK friends, my heart goes out to you. Not much I can say that hasn't already been said.

My thoughts are with you all.

My heart goes out to all the UK'ers. This is just sickening and that statement they put out!!! With words like peace and compassion and merciful and rejoice!! WTH!!Just disgusting. Makes me sad.

Tiggy

My heart and prayers are with our friends in the UK, as well as the rest of the world.

There is true evil in this world. As a Christian, I directly attribute this evil to the work of Satan, and Satan gets his rocks off by using religion to further his agenda.

I don't think we should blame these atrocities on the Muslim religion, the different denominations of Christianity, or any religion.

The blame for these atrocities should be laid at the feet of those evil men who USE religion and the ignorance of their followers to kill and maim others. It's not really about "faith", but about POWER. It doesn't matter whether they are Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, or Christian...whatever, the religion is just a TOOL for them.

It just happens to be that these evil men who use the Muslim religion got their foothold in Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, where Islam is the religion...and further their evil by brainwashing their youth from early ages to follow them blindly. These young people can recite the Koran by rote, but do they actually KNOW what it means? I don't think so. Their heads are so filled with the garbage that these evil-doers have pumped into them that they have probably lost whatever ability to think and reason they may have had.

It's not the religion itself that is to blame, IMHO, but the evil men who USE religion to further their own means.

My thought are with all of you as well. Hope everyone is ok.

That took a lot of nerve with a big huge helping of hypocrisy, eh, Bob? The pot calling the kettle black. Sheesh.

~ Snow

Well, I gotta hand it to the Brits. Saw them on TV tonight passing out tea in the streets. I certainly admire them.

Continued prayers for protection.

::::Bob, at least some of the people posting here are likely to be young and Muslim. You may not have such a supportive audience as you imagine. At least one Muslim poster has been driven off the board by the vehemence expressed towards Muslim 'attitudes'.

TA, Perhaps it was my H's OW? She is a Muslim. Actually my fear of invading Afghanistan and Iraq comes of my general fear of religious fanatics. One of the triggers of this whole mess occured in late 2002 when The Tabiban captured about 8 or 9 Christians who were preaching in Afghanistan, and there was talk of beheading them. (I thought the Christians were asking for trouble going there in the first place and had little sympathy for them... one was Australian)

Having been a 'christian' fundamentalist, I am aware how "doing God's will" can be sculptured into any thing you want it to be and I am now very afraid of the power that comes from this kind of delusion. I have hated fundamentalist religions since I wasted 10 yrs of my life in one and developed insight into how they operate. I don't care if they are Christian or Muslim. The Muslim extremists are particularly viscious, because they are more devout and single minded. The basic Muslim beliefs are as reasonable as the basic Christian beliefs - but both groups are capable of great evil. The Jehovah's Witnesses have allowed thousands of their members to die for want of a blood transfusion in the belief that it's God's Will.

I was against invading Afghanistan because of the fanatics that live in and support that country. I was even more against invading Iraq for the same reason. Maybe the bombings in London would have happened anyway but to me it's like poking a mad dog with a stick. We, the west have claimed the high moral ground in helping the ordinary Iraqi people but what about Zimbabwe, why aren't we knocking off Mugabe, as he's a madman too? Why Arab countries while we ignore other countries that have evil regimes? Is it that Zimbabwe and North Korea don't have oil, so helping their down trodden people doesn't have the impetus that oil rich countries have to be 'helped'.

Sorry to keep up the political commentary - but I started it and feel a need to explain my position, even though I feel like I'm walking a minefield to say what I feel.

AN

My prayers are with you guys in London....today's gruesome acts of terror brought home many sad memories of 9/11. It also is pretty surreal considering I was just in London and using the subway in April (my 1st trip to Europe).

Oh, guys. I'm so very sorry. I had no idea what was going on until I saw this Thread, and read up on CNN.

Continued prayers for your personal safety and for the protection of those you love.

slh

One of my very favorite songs. A desert island song. God bless The Kinks.

Dirty old river, must you keep rolling
Flowing into the night
People so busy, makes me feel dizzy
Taxi light shines so bright

But I don’t need no friends
As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset
I am in paradise

Every day I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunset’s fine

Terry meets Julie, Waterloo station
Every Friday night
But I am so lazy, don’t want to wander
I stay at home at night

But I don’t feel afraid
As long as I gaze on Waterloo sunset
I am in paradise

Every day I look at the world from my window
But chilly, chilly is the evening time
Waterloo sunset’s fine

Millions of people swarming like flies ’round
Waterloo underground
But Terry and Julie cross over the river
Where they feel safe and sound

And they don’t need no friends
As long as they gaze on Waterloo sunset
They are in paradise

Waterloo sunset’s fine

GC