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#1430087 07/18/05 12:12 PM
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My husband subscribes to Men's Health Magazine and I came across the attached article this weekend and I wanted to see what my fellow MB'ers think about. I'll tell you my opinion shortly...

http://www.menshealth.com/cda/article.do...000cee793cd____

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Hi, dusa90.

I like the idea of marriage contracts. It addresses a lot of issues right up front, insincerity being at the top of the list. Gold digging (male and female), and the withdrawal of unfairly applied judicial strength, being close runners up.

All the best,
Gimble


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-An infidel will remain unreachable so long as their sense of entitlement exceeds their ability to reason.
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What does he mean by getting women to sign on? This was a woman's idea first-feminists suggested it back in the 1970's.

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Good thing this guy doesnt get to make the rules.

In His arms.

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What does he mean by getting women to sign on? This was a woman's idea first-feminists suggested it back in the 1970's.
Which is another good reason not to listen to it. Pretty much anything made up by the radical feminists in the 70s should be ignored.

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Mortarman, this is TOTALLY off topic, but I am just goiing to take a "shot" here.

Let me guess a few things about you.

1. NRA
2. Republican die hard
3. Gun club member and/or advocate
4. Avid Clinton Hater (he is the devil reincarnated).

Honestly, am I right on, or am I in left field.

Sour....


Some people just don't get it, they don't get it that they don't get it.

I had the right to remain silent.......but I didn't have the ability.
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gee whiz. This is too easy.

So... from one f'ed up dude to another...

You are in left field. Obviously. Because your list is all right field.

thank you and goodnight....

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Okay, here's MY take on this article:

I think any woman/girl should not only walk, but RUN from this guy. He's 38 year's old, dating a 25 year old, "hangin'" with 20-year old's in his leisure time because all of his other friend's are now married with children and he thinks that their SO do not "allow" them to remain the the bar after midnight. C'mon!!! Has he ever thought that some men actually LIKE their families, wife and children???? That it can be fun to hang out with the kids???

He sounds like he has some serious stunted emotional growth issues.

This artice is a bunch of bullcr*p!

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Strange. He has the idea that if people are attracted to someone else, they will "hold off" till the contract expires. Give me a break! If people had that much impulsivity control, there wouldn't be a problem with marriage in the first place. We wouldn't be on this board.

He is talking about marriage as a commodity, arranged for his own sexual convenience -- and promoting self-interest in each partner as an answer to something. Self-interest is not the answer; love is. He's not talking about marriage as a commitment, as a building block of society. The reason it "hurts" when it ends is inherent in the trust you have given another person. When you have given yourself to someone intimately, sexually, emotionally ... it's not like a contract, and ending it causes grief. The potential acrimony is high because the stakes are high.

Marriage is about creating a new family from two existing families. Kids want to be around parents who care desperately for them. Not people who have signed contracts for their sexual convenience. But this is a side-issue for him, because he's into himself. Far from being a 19th century convention, this is a commitment that goes through all societies, throughout the world, and in all times. When we marry, we are joining with our ancestors and descendents, we are transcending time.

His trendy theory sounds so rational. But it sounds like he has the deal he wants already. Why should people fly from around the country bearing gifts for a 3-year contract? They don't do that to celebrate any other three-year contract. Why is what he does sexually so important that other people should honor it? Who cares who he is screwing for a few years...why bother introducing such a person to his family if the arrangement is a temporary sexual outlet?

What he wants is no-commitment living together, with the legitimacy and sacredness of marriage. It is the tribute vice gives to virtue. And the "vice" is not promiscuity, it's triviality.


"Virtue -- even attempted virtue -- brings light; indulgence brings fog." -- C.S. Lewis
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Mortarman, this is TOTALLY off topic, but I am just goiing to take a "shot" here.
Okie-dokie. I love being shot at! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Let me guess a few things about you.

1. NRA
Not active...but very much a 2nd Amendment guy!
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2. Republican die hard
Conservative. I have voted for some Democrats before. Very few, mind you. But I only vote for a true conservative. No matter what party they belong to.
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3. Gun club member and/or advocate
Advocate, yes. Gun club member...no. Used to be a part of a BIG gun club called the U.S. Army though. Does that count?
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4. Avid Clinton Hater (he is the devil reincarnated).
Hate? Too strong a word, especially for him. I more look at him as a buffoon. An embarassment. Especially for those of us that are or have been in the military. I really dont hate anyone (well except these damn terrorists...I hate them! Oh yeah, I used to hate the OM). Anyway, just glad the era is over and we can get back to the serious business of running a country.

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Honestly, am I right on, or am I in left field.
Dont know if you're "right" because I am not quite sure where you are headed with this.

And are you in left field? Dunno. Are you? <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Hey! That's me...less the Republican thing...Libertarian is the REAL way to go! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Please don't tell me the ACLU has you on their membership roles?!?!? Make any contributions to MoveOn.org?

I'll be SO disappointed!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> One of my MB heroes...a LIB!!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I don't hate our esteemed former President, he just reminds me one of STBXW's OW...the guy could sell snowmobiles in Florida..not that SHE didn't have a part int heir illicit activities! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

That "smoothness" is sickening...I am forever leery of guys like that.

WNB


43yr old FWH who has rediscovered morality Divorced: 03 February 2006 XW: My threads say it all "Well, I guess if a person never quit when the going got tough, they wouldn't have anything to regret for the rest of their life..."
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Honestly, I see some good and bad from this article.

Save any personal attacks on his choice of company and reasons for it, I would agree to one thing that can be taken from this.

The idea of some form of contract prior to marriage. Not that you renew... I believe in the foundations of marriage being God.

BUT, marriage today has more than the God component. It has the legal component. This component is not of God, but if you are going to get legally married(along with the God part) then you should protect yourself legally. I believe these days it is called a prenuptial(sp?) agreement.

Funny how that is such a bad word... prenup. People see it as not believing in the marriage to begin with. A black mark to start. Or, greed driven.(I don't want to share my money with you... and so on)

Did you know that you can use the prenup to set a lot of really rare thought of things to rest? Think of the schiavo story. With a prenup, they could have covered in a legal document her wishes with respect to HER about what HE could and could not do. Or even her wishes at all.

Maybe if people thought more about the consequences of something, then maybe they would be more able to accept the outcome.

I, for one, am learning every single day what it is to not think something through. I am no pro. But at least I have seen a hand grenade go off like a nuke... only to learn later(or open my eyes to the fact that) it had been a freaking nuke all along.


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