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#1442448 08/01/05 08:44 PM
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I guess I knocked her off the fence.

I tried to tell her what I needed - trust, honesty... she didn't want to go there. When I told her I could not live without those things; she said it was over.
My life is over.


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What happened? Did she leave?


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Yes.
She left.
She's a serial cheater. I should have done this six years ago.
I Love her. I miss her. I'm broken.
I really don't care about anything at this point.


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Cruz, I am sure sorry to hear it. Have you considered Plan B? It is my opinion that it is impossible to change a serial cheater. They can change if they choose to, but you can't change her.


"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena.." Theodore Roosevelt

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Oh so sorry. I hope you can find the grace and strength to realize you are strong enough to go on another hour.


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cruz, i am sorry for your pain. i will be praying for your family.

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Our seven year old little girl is at her grandpa's house right now.
I just got off the phone with my Mom. She didn't know anything about this until tonight.
My darling little baby girl is so fragile. She's seven. She Loves her Momma and Daddy so much.
It's happened.
What I dreaded more than anything has happened. I don't know what to do.
I've gotten what I deserved.


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why do you think you deserve this?? you don't

don't give up yet cruz, keep the faith. i think writing a plan b note might be a good idea, keeping in mind that it is a love letter, letting her know that you want this marriage to survive even now.

i can't imagine anyone having enough strenght to endure this but look at bob pure, he did it, you can too!!!

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I do deserve this. I cheated on my first wife with this woman. I destroyed an incredible family. I deserve everything I'm getting.
My xw's family still Loves me. I don't deserve that.
I don't deserve anything.


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Well, Cruz, I suppose it feels just as bad, however your marriage started.

Right now you are miserable, but it will get better.

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is it safe for me to say that reading this made me cry..?

I'm so very sorry to hear about the pain you're going through - its tragic the bond that we people share together; but together, we can endure. Don't give up hope - there is ALWAYS light on the end of the tunnel, believe me...I can speak from experience.


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Now in Plan B - headed for D.
Praying on God's guidance and support


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I had to jump out of "Lurk" status for you buddy! We are two peas in a pod and I was hoping to hear from you soon...

First and foremost, you HAVE to forgive yourself for what you did...YOU HAVE TO!!!

YOur life isn't over...you are now in for a ROUGH ride...no doubt, but you WILL come out the other side a better person...you already are!

Would you ever be a party to infidelity again? ****** NO!!!! YOu have grown!!! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

The constant @$$-beating you give yourself is NOT healthy! Please get some IC for this...life is hard enough without kicking your own @$$. I know...I am guilty of it too.

I started by apologizing to my XW and the XH of my STBXW...that's a good start.

Instead of "kicking my @$$", I tell myself, "My moral values are FIRMLY set" whenever the urge to clobber myself arises...negative thinking is a downward spiral...things will be tough enough with a divorce...please forgive yourself...

WRT your STBXW, when you look back at this time in a year, you will be glad you did it...trust me. I take it you have a DD with WW or is she an SD?

From what you have written, she has NEVER shown any ACTION toward reconciliation, has she? I got the SAME THING! A lot of words, but NO action...they are cake-eaters of the highest form.

The BEST answer at this point, IMO, is NO CONTACT! Get a lawyer and proceed with NC as much as humanly possible...every day I don't see STBXW is a good one.

WRT to D, you have to get it done soon...MOVE forward in your life..you WILL be better off once you are single.

Now is the time to further cultivae a relationship with your kids...they will appreciate it and it will keep your mind off your troubles...

My kids are too far away, so I have to content myself with watching the entire "Soprano's" series on DVD! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

My e-mail is in my sig line, so feel free o drop me a line ANYTIME!!!!

You are a GOOD person...don't forget it! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

YOur buddy,

Scott


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Plan B will not get the attention of such a cheater...

Being is the same boat, Having really worked at the M AND once it has been established that the serial cheater REALLY has NO desire to establish trust and honesty in the M...it is my opinion it is best to skip Plan B and go DIRECTLY to Plan D.

FWIW,

Scott


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Cruz,

Lords lady posted these very wise words over in the After Divorce forum...they really spoke to me.

Please read them and see what you think...

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I'm not a WS anymore. That person is long since gone. It's just taking me a while to stop turning and looking at that person.


Best wishes,

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Bump for Cruz...

Hang in there buddy...

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Cruz,

I just went back and read all your posts.

All I can say is that I am sorry.It is tragic,all the mistakes made,the life you left to have with this "soulmate" OW.Truly tragic.It's a case study in Adultery and the soulmate farce.

I do wish you well though.In time,you can get on with your life.However you choose to live it from now on.

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Thanks Scott.

You made me feel better. It's the first thing I've felt today... somebody I don't even know taking the time to encourage me. I'm struggling right now my friend, and I really do appreciate it.

While I've been numb today I HAVE been constructive: I had all the locks changed so she can't come in and wipe me out. I went and started a new individual checking account. I didn't take anything out of our joint account or savings - she's probably already cleaned those out anyway. I stashed $2K for just this reason.

I found a really good lawyer - who happens to be a female - with a reputation for getting custody for Fathers. I've got to protect my sweet little girl from this woman.

You're right Scott... I'm NOT a WS anymore. There is no way that I would ever do that to another human being again.

I'm in a lot of pain right now, but I'm going to get through this. I'm not interested in looking for somebody else in the next couple of years. I need to work on me, and put all my energy into my children. I hope that one day I'll be lucky enough to find some one I can trust to let into my life again.

Thanks my friend,

Cruz


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Cruz,

I have followed your story for a very long time, ever since I read one of the most compassionate and honest posts I have ever read on this board from you.

I am sorry to read of your current sitch, and of the incredible pain I know you are trying to cope with now.

Please know that there are many here who care about you, regardless of what you have done in the past. We are ALL imperfect and we all have done things in the past which have hurt others, but there comes a time when we need to forgive ourselves, or forever bring a self-fulfilling prophesy of "deserving" into our lives.

We manifest what ever we think we deserve.

You have paid for your sins Cruz, it is time to seek self-forgiveness and joy.

I am glad that you are at a place where this can come to fruition.

If your WW ever does change, then you and she are both worthy of a marriage sanctified and blessed by the Lord, our Father.

And if you choose not with her, than with someone else. Or alone if that is where happiness finds you.

Please know this.

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Thank you Weaver.

I am hurting so very badly right now, but there is also an underlying feeling of relief. This is the only way this nightmare can ever end.

I was so naive. I was lured away from the first love of my life by this woman. I'm to blame for letting it happen, but I didn't understand how evil people can be.

I didn't understand that not all people are honest and basically good.

To say wether sone one has been "punished" enough for their sins is really not for others to say. It's self evident in the actions of the offender. I am humbled by the depths of the damage I've done, and resolute in my determination to never do it again.

Again, my sincere thanks for your words of encouragement.

Cruz


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You have paid for your sins Cruz, it is time to seek self-forgiveness and joy.
Cruz, Weaver said it well..accept the forgiveness offered you and let yourself off the hook.


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