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I guess it's final, eh AD?

Don't know what to say, so I'll just say "hi".

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Well, weaves, I guess it is. I won't know until I get something in the mail, but from what I understand the judge should have signed it Monday.

Right now, I'm going to unload my van (load from the other house) and go to choir practice. I haven't been to church in a couple of months - but we have a new music minister and I figure the best way to jump back in is with both feet.

I used to be in the choir, but quit after we married, because W was lonely and jealous when I was there.

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I always loved singing in the choir, but I didn't have the voice for it. Boy my little brother did though, my mom and dad too.

I love the choir at church.

Good for you!

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Hi Pep.

Hi weaver. I don't have much of a voice anymore myself, but it doesn't matter about the voice, and probably your voice is fine anyway. When you put them together, a bunch of old croakers croaking together can sound pretty good!

Choir practice was wonderful!

Wow I miss that - quit the choir not long after we married. Several people greeted me like it was just last week (except for the surprised look on their faces - and the extra grey and extra pounds all around).

The lady playing the piano for rehearsal played for our wedding. She's got 4 kids and it looks like she's starting to show a bit of wear, LOL. I'd bet they're great kids, though. The choir room was almost completely full. The new choir director (and his wife), I went to church with in high school. They didn't remember me, but know my brother very well - and wanted to get together with him. I'll try to invite both him and them when he's back in town (gotta get the house a bit straighter by then, tho).

In short, it was a fine evening.

I called XW this afternoon and told her I wanted Thursdays to be my overnight with DD until the end of the year. It was supposed to be Wednesday, but she kept begging. She agreed. I had decided that I wanted to rejoin the choir, and this way, I'll have DD all to myself with no scheduled activity (unless I schedule it).

Well, now I'm going to open Neak's book and see what it's all about.

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Hello MB'ers.

Well, I've had my week's vacation - and tomorrow I've got to go to work. Unfortunately, I've "fallen ill". I'm going to bed in a few minutes - hoping to get 8+ hours of sleep - maybe 10!

All in all, it was a good week. When I return to health, I plan to continue on the new track - just getting things done that need to be done - and making or remaking connections - and moving forward.

W (XW) was here for a couple of hours this afternoon - shared some grilled burgers. My aim right now, is to do what is comfortable - not always a good strategy, but for now, it is mine.

This was not supposed to be "my weekend" (meaning my visitation with our daughter), but W - sensing it has been a long time since I had one (we switched the 2nd and 3rd weekends), suggested I take this one and we worked a kind of split deal which I think will work for me.

DD was with me Friday night and yesterday, and XW came and got her - to take her to church this morning. We've agreed that DD should go to one church rather than going back and forth to two. There are enough splits in her life right now without that.

I had intended to go sing in the choir this morning and suggested that XW take DD to church (at what we'll call "DD's church"). I didn't feel well enough to go, but after church they came back here and I grilled some burgers - and after W hung around a bit, I agreed that since I'm sick, DD should go home with her Mom - so they went back to W's apt.

Next weekend is my family reunion, and I will have DD on Sunday all day for that. As she left, XW suggested I get DD next Saturday night, so we can leave early in the morning for the reunion (about 2.5 hours drive each way). That was nice of her - and, since I gave up the overnight tonight, it evens it out so that I don't lose any overnights with DD - but split them between two weekends.

I know that was confusing. Short version, we're getting along more smoothly with the visitation times.

DD will be with me for 3 hours while XW is in class tomorrow evening - and Thursday, I will get her at 2 in the afternoon until 8am Friday morning, them back to me Saturday evening, and back to her Mom Sunday evening after we return from the reunion. Clear? And why should it matter, LOL.

The two important points in this
1) With these midweek visits plus the extra time while XW is in class, I see DD almost every day - at least every other day. This demonstrates the correctness of my choice to accept the standard visitation; which I got without a fight - thus sparing us an expensive and painful struggle that might have ended with the same result - only taking a year more to get there.
2) On the other hand, in seeing DD so frequently, I also see and communicate with my XW - which may be bad or good depending on your point of view, but is hardly what one expects when contemplating the idea of "divorce".

For T&L and Neak : I finished "Malchus" this evening. It was a good read and recomendable. I'm not much of a book reviewer, so I'll spare the detailed analysis. I liked it - hope I can get the next one when it's available. I did find it for sale on an Adventist Book source online - so the next one, I'll buy, but thank you very much for sending it to me.

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She's lost, T&L, stumbling in the dark. That's not the same as just plain bad. -AD

I never meant to imply that she was "just plain bad." But accidental lost and on purpose lost are each one every bit as confused as the other, and the fact that she (we can all hope with you) will someday be able to think more clearly, and function more calmly, doesn't make her any less topsy-turvy right now. My belief that anybody can change is one of the major lessons of the Saga, but until then...

Glad you liked the book. Hope you're feeling better soon.

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2) On the other hand, in seeing DD so frequently, I also see and communicate with my XW - which may be bad or good depending on your point of view, but is hardly what one expects when contemplating the idea of "divorce".

Just my $.02 worth here, so you don't have to open a new bank account just to "save" it, but I think it's an excellent idea, as long as you can emotionally handle it yourself. If for no other reason than for your DD's sake, it's good to keep as deeply-involved in their lives as possible, since every kid needs at least one grownup paying attention to what's going on, and it doesn't necessarily sound like your XW is able to be that person on a consistent basis. There are advantages to XW, too, but we've sort of talked about them already, and at this point it might be easier for you to just tell yourself you're doing this for DD than for some other however-noble aim.

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Hi T&L,

Thanks for the comments.

To be honest, I'm not doing it for DD, but for me! If I had wanted to do something sacrificial for DD, I would have stayed married to her mom.

I'm awake <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> because I could not sleep. Dang cold. I drove to walgreens at 2am to buy that liquid lighttime cold medicine - you know the one. Nasty green stuff. Now, I'm waiting for it to start working.

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I called XW this evening - to make arrangments for visitation schedule. She was just walking in the door - had the mail in her hand. She got the notice with the Judge's signature. She asked "how did we get here?"

After she put DD to bed, she called back, talked for over an hour - mostly about schools for DD - but other things as well. She said she wanted to make me some chicken soup yesterday (I've been sick), but didn't know if it was appropriate. She makes the best chicken soup in the world, actually. I guess the thought counts, but she didn't make the soup. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I didn't get my notice yet.

I'm trying to put together a little trip to go out and see SS next month. I hope that works out.

Choir practice was OK, but I was pretty shot from being sick for the last few days.

Speaking of which, I should be in bed now.

G'night.

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I'm trying to put together a little trip to go out and see SS next month. I hope that works out.
Kewl! Hope you are feeling better, AD.


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I'm trying to put together a little trip to go out and see SS next month. I hope that works out.

In what general area is that, if it's permissible to ask? It sounded like he lived outside the continental US, and Neaksis commented on it at the time. Trips are nice. Solo trips are WAY nice, as far as I'm concerned. I hope to have another before I die. You have fun, now!

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The latitude is 37.104N. The longitude is -113.583W.

That may be closer than you wanted, but it is accurate. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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She got the notice with the Judge's signature. She asked "how did we get here?"


The short answer: Adultery.


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The latitude is 37.104N. The longitude is -113.583W.

That may be closer than you wanted, but it is accurate. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

SS

Isn't that somewhere in China?

"two wrongs don't make a right, but three lefts do"

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Isn't that somewhere in China?

The Chinese Premier would like it to be.

Not yet though, not yet.

Nice to hear from you 2long. Been out of earth's orbit yet this month?

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Nope, still on Mars!

...you see, you used a double negative - a minus west is an east! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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The latitude is 37.104N. The longitude is -113.583W.

That may be closer than you wanted, but it is accurate. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

SS

Great! Now all I have to do is get my physicist son to translate for me, and I'll know exactly what you're talking about! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

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2long,
I just copied it from the info site I stole it from.
You are way ahead of me.

Though, I put it in an astronomy program once and it took it correctly and found the right chart for my night sky.

Some of us (you) understand, and some of us (me) just look it up.

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Wanna hear something cool?

Planetary scientists (geologist, at least, geophysicists don't really count) measure longitude of planets as increasing in the direction that the planet rotates "under you". So, Mars longitude is measured increasing west from 0-360 degrees. No need for "east" and "west" longitude. Venus rotates retrograde (it's day is longer than it's year), so longitude is measured increasing east from 0-360.

The same should be true for Earth, but people have gotten set in their ways. Like when I was in undergrad school, we had quadrant Bruntons, and strike and dip of layered rocks would be stated like N45E, dipping 45° SE. But you could also say that S45W, dipping 45° SE, and still be correct. Along came computers and computer programs, and so new conventions were invented to make input to computer programs a lot easier. And if you decide, say, to always list the strike as a simple azimuth from 0-360 and stipulate that the dip is always down and to the right from that azimuth, then all you have to type into a computer program is two numbers separated by a comma. In that case, the N45E strike, 45° SE dip can be stated simply 45,45, and everybody knows what that means! (but 225,45 would NOT be saying the same thing).

It's important! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

-Qfwfq

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