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I'm just curious, does anyone know how often an EA is really a PA, but the WS just did not want to tell the truth?

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I don't think we have statistics about that ... just hunches.

My response is:

frequently... if there exists the opportunity of private time together.

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susieq- Iknow in my WW's case, it started as EA, then progressed to PA, starting with hugs, then kisses etc...As pepperband says if they have private time, even if it's meeting along the roadside, which WS always seem to manage, usually turns into PA.

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If your asking how often when somebody confesses an EA is it actually a PA, I would say depends on the length of the EA, but frequently.

If your asking how often does an EA turn into a PA, I would say given enough time, almost always.

I deal with fraud a lot. There are only to things needed for someone to commit fraud. 1) Opportunity 2) is the ability to rationalize the action. We never try to stop 2, because, in time, people will always develop the ability to rationalize the action. To prevent fraud, we eliminate the opportunity. Fraud is not the same thing as an A, but an EA is the biggest opportunity to have a PA.

Just my 2 cents.


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Sometimes it's a foggy definition of "physical" a WS uses to claim only EA or only "just friends".


"Never forget that your pain means nothing to a WS." ~Mulan

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Given sufficient opportunity, it's almost a garauntee that an EA WILL blossom into a PA if left unchecked.

Even long-distance ones such as in my case will eventually find a way. My wife had been planning on having OM (whom both of us knew and friends with from online gaming) meet us at campsite where we were planning on staying while visiting an event we'd wanted to attend. Of course I had thought initially that this was just a chance to meet a mutual friend...but as I became more suspicious, I realized that it was their chance to 'meet and see if what they felt was like that in person too'.

Now...the affair ended before they EVER got to meet in person...so in our case it never got the chance to go to PA...but I know it would have if we had gone to that event.


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