I will pray for you to do what God wants you to do, and pray for strength for your husband who is standing up for you, and your children.

Broke, I said that my Grandmother used to say that. I didn't say it was in the bible. On the other hand, maybe you should consider the thought behind that little expression. Okie dokie, I'm bowing out of this. Good luck. You're going to need it.

BB, with all due respect, I find it amazing that you are more offended by those names than by the behavior underlying them. People here are very offended by your W's behavior. What is truly offensive is acting in a whorish manner and then brazenly proclaiming it, not the accurate words that define it. Words do have meanings and we are under no obligation to white wash your W's immoral, putrid behavior even if you choose to do so. There is nothing sinful or "offensive" about calling a sin what it is: a sin.

What truly IS "ineffective" is allowing your W to spew all manner of sick rationalizations about her adultery without challenge. Perhaps this has something to do with the reason she feels so emboldened.

I am very sorry you find yourself in this position and we are here to help you. But please don't expect us to use nice words to describe remorseless putrid behavior. Political correctness has not infested this forum and it's doubtful it will start now.

BB,
I'm glad your still here. What you must had read today must have been extremely painfull.
It saddens me to say, that most of the replies to and from your WW were made by BS's (of which I am one also).
You must understand, that within each of us, there is still a lot of residual anger, bitterness, and resentment that lingers years after our betrayal from our WS.
If this were not true, I'm sure your WW would not have been stoned to an inch of her life in the public square today. Others on this forum, may well indeed stone me for even implying such a thing, but, I know in my heart what I witnessed today.

You are right to trust in God on this matter, as, He is probably the only one who is capable of melting the hardened heart of your WW. But it will only take a glance from Him to do so, and you should pray that He will.

When Christ said to the crowd, "let those among you who is without sin cast the first stone", everyone dropped their stone and walked away. Christ then looked down at the women and said "Women, where are your accusers?" She looked around and said " Lord, I see none." He answered " Then neither do I accuse you. Go and sin no more."

Hint, Hint, Hint!!!!!!!
Why doesn't everyone(and i love you all), drop their stone and begin to help BB and Magpie to recover and heal their broken marriage? Haven't we all been in a similar place when it was our turn in the desert?

JMVHO
All Blessings,
Jerry

Jerry, please understand that the response here today has nothing to do with the fact that some are BS'. It has to do with the fact that decent people become outraged at injustice.

What we saw here was a woman who boldly and proudly proclaimed her cruelty to her husband and her children - without remorse.

One does not have to have been a victim of adultery to become outraged at the injustice in cruel, hateful behavior. That is a critical element of decency that motivates all decent people. Decent people become outraged at injustice.

The alternative is moral neutrality, at the expense of decency.

p.s. your Bible story doesn't fit the situation, Jerry. She fully admits she has committed adultery so there is no need for accusers.

Exactly my point mel,
The same thing that every other WS did to their BS in the midst of their affair.
Do our responses to her sound anything at all like the Plan A that we propose to everyone else? I don't think so. I think, rather, it was a bashing, JUST BECAUSE WE COULD.
All Blessings,
Jerry

Every other WS doesn't come here and proudly wear their cruelty like a badge of honor. The ones that do, meet with the same treatment, and deservedly so. The crime here isn't the moral outrage, but the underlying remorseless adultery so let's try and keep this in perspective.

I prefer to focus my compassion where it sanely belongs: on her victims.


Of course not, we not married to her, so we are obviously not in Plan A with her.

You know, Mel, Shinethrough's got a point. No, WS's don't come here and proudly proclaim it but it is EXACTLY what WS's say to their BS's.

I'm afraid I'm finding it very hard, just like you are, to find sympathy for Magpie - it's pretty brazen and unpleasant - but, hey, I was there once. There's no denying it, although I look at this and think, SURELY NOT.

Jen

Jen, yes I know some do say things like to their BS'; it doesn't mean they come here and say it. Or that it's justified. And Jen, I don't remember you ever being this brazen and cruel. EVER. If you had, I am sure you would have met the same treatment.

Actually, I'll add a caveat. I was there once but never inflicted this sort of brazen cruelty on my family.

As I said before, I was trying to make amends BEFORE my H found out and I certainly wouldn't have inflicted further pain once I saw the pain and damage I'd caused to my H and children when they DID find out.

Jen

OK I Give,
If she called SH, what advise would he give her?
Would it sound anything at all as to what she got from this forun today?
I think you can answer that ? yourself.

All Blessings,
Jerry

Thats exactly how I remember it. You came here to try and repair the damage, not inflict more or gloat about your cruelty. I have never seen you act cruelly.

If she called SH she would likely be calling for HELP and he would help her. The same as we would if she came here for help. Just as we always help folks who are here wanting to salvage their marriages.

Again, exactly my point. This poor soul has not seen this yet. We can only pray that she does!!!!

All blessings,
Jerry

Why do you think she would even bother herself to post here if it were not for help?
Sometimes you have to read between the lines?
Jerry

I'll leave the reading between the lines to you, Jer. I prefer to read the lines.

OKIE DOKIE <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
All Blessings,
Jerry

ahh, Texas!

I love ya, Jer! I know your heart is in the right place. You are one of the good guys. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Nowadays,
I somewhat fell like Tinman?
Jer

With no heart?? You are all heart, Jerry! <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />