I'm just glad I didn't get "full bodied".

You're wrong pio, in that case anyone here that had used more than one member id can have multiple personalities? ..
Its sad that even I can share here my deeply secrets, its not safe, because some people doesnt respect your desire about leave or not some information that I had wrote.
For me was a release to show hole truth here, even jokes and judjments that some people wrote... I learned that even all Im a value person (sometimes I forgot this) and I need to take those opinions just as that as opinion of a person who doesnt know me and doesnt know hole case...(Im not writing this because of you pio, or TodAc)

It was amazing how a post that reveals intimace details can shake several people..
I know there are too much persons that had felt or even living similar encounters by internet but for they all those encounters was just,, for funn, and the are not upset because of this. For impact of this, the society plays an important rule...
Im going to try to find the safe way for sharing with all of you my thoughts and my story, hole story, I need to be prepare for bad comments I guess and be stronger that now, to support it..


Once I read in a post "nadie conoce mejor el fondo de la olla que la cuchara"

Sorry pio for use your post to write this...

I promise to change it when you read it...

Thanks for be so kind...

Some people do use more than one ID although I don't think they keep it a secret. I don't know if you and curly17 are the same person or not. I don't really know that much about curly17 because I never followed those threads and whatever the big scandal was got deleted.

Anyway, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. You are welcome to post here on this thread if that helps you maintain some anonymity. Just pleased on't ask me how gemela and I are doing. It is not a good time for that. We are packing all our bags now. I need to put gemela and I on the back burner for the next few days. I am a very sentimental person and if I stop to think about all this, I might not do so well.

So stick around and post here to the extent you feel comfortable with. If you can find a better way to share your story, let us know. Please post here in English. Your English is very good and ToddAC's Spanish is very bad.

I don't know many Mexican jokes (aside from the World Cup soccer team - ducking ducking). Sorry. I do remember one about a man and his girlfriend Ramona Cabrera.

tear,

All that this community expects from any member is complete honesty. We all put in a lot of time reading and posting and if you are dishonest, people get upset for wasting their time.

If you are honest, you will see that people will reach out and help you.

I agree with you Tod AC..
Im going to write my own post... just for not use piojitos post.

2much, I'm sparkling wine of course. All bubbles and no substance.

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Perfect, I believe the bubbles but not the substance part!

I have to say this is me:
MICHAEL MARTELLA WINE. Grapes from the Fiddletown viticultural region in Amador County have delivered in Martella's [90] 2004 Oleta Vineyard ($26) a rich, flavorful entry that extends right on through the center into a fairly long finish. Youthfully rough on the palate, this is a fairly hearty wine that will hold its own quite well...now I have to find it and try it...I usually stick to dry white oaky buttery rich wines or light dry white...occassionaly I'll live on the edge with a red but it can't be too dry or have too much of a bite...I do like a peppery undertone though!

Where are ToddAC, Believer and BK in all of this???

I've been playing inside a microwave.

If I was/were wine, I would be Shafer Cabernet Sauvignon Hillside Select.

And, I'd rather be a hammer than a nail.

I mean, duh!

Did you remove all metal objects before entering?

All this winopomorphism. I dunno. I think maybe you should all go drink some rather than pretend you were some. Oh, and I will drink some vicarously, of course.

Who is "regreted"? Is that the poster whose identity was in question? Whose name I won't mention so it can't be searched?

BTW, I feel like a nail. I don't like it either.

Yes, regreted is who you think it is.

It's Friday here, nearly Friday afternoon.

Do you know how GOOD that is?

I'm going to pretend I'm sparkling wine until someone gives me a good reason not to.

Maybe you should thank God for it. I hear some people do.

This is my last weekend day (Friday is the weekend). with gemela in Saudi. We had a very interesting talk yesterday. I told her that my biggest problem right now is not the A but that she has never been remorseful for the A. That makes her somebody I don't recognize and not someone I want to be with.

She told me she was sad about going and sad she is not coming back with us. I told her that neither one of us is really enjoying this. Something has to change. I have had a really bad year. She told me she does wonder if she can ever make me happy again. I told her that was not her job. She cannot make me happy - only I can do that. The reason I am not happy with her is that she doesn't love me and I know I can do better than that. I feel like she is cheating me out of happiness making me live with a woman who doesn't love me. I also told her my mistake all these years was trying to make her happy. Nobody can make another person happy. I understand that now. All I can do is try to be the best person and best husband I can be and if that is something she wants - great. If not, we go our separate ways. She is the only one who can make herself happy.

This was not an argument BTW. It is the most open and honest talk we have had in quite some time. I told her that since she is about to go off to Mexico, I wanted to make sure that she had no misunderstandings about our situation. I reminded her that I love her to my soul and that I do hope she finds the happiness she needs somehow.

I checked my records and found that 8/8/05 was my Dday.

And if I were wine, I would be Ripple. Cheap, no redeeming attributes and your last resort. I leave a nasty hangover and a really bad taste in your mouth and you always tell God you wish you had never met me and swear to avoid me forever.

No you wouldn't, be Ripple that is. Not that I know what Ripple is but it doesn't sound very appetising.

Pio, you never tell us what gemela's responses to you are. Does she take it in? Does she respond? I always responded during these "talks" mostly with tears and "no, no I don't want this."

This is not exactly fair. We finished playing golf and it is approximately an 9.37 minute ride in the golf cart to the house because it is downhill (it takes more or less 11.62 mnutes going to the course). When the left the parking lot, I told her I had something I wanted to tell her but did not want her to answer. That is when I told her that I FEEL she has shown no remorse and that really bother me. She has siad she committed an error but that is just a strange word to me. People are human and do make MISTAKES but they are sorry for them. If you are not sorry, it means you don't really think it is a mistake. I FEEL like she blames me for the affair instead of accepting the responsibility that she is the only one who made the decision to do it - and she did it so easily apparently. I said it may or may not be the truth but it is how I feel. She did not talk the entire time.

We got to the house and were sitting in the garage. She told me she still had feelings for me. I told her I still loved her with all my heart. We went inside. All day long she was working on her suitcase. (It takes her a week to pack and then she still forgets stuff - the "chings" on the way to the airport I have posted about before - I fully expect to get at least three "chings" this trip).

Her mood was pretty good all day but she was a little sad. We didn't talk a lot about the separation. She said she hoped that this would help us and that she could resolve things in her mind. I did tell her that this is not a separation so she can go have a fling with OM to see how it goes. If she even makes one phone call to OM, we are done forever. She may be able to hide it for a while but sooner or later I will find out. She said she has no intention of living on her own. She is going to live with SIL and MIL. I said whatever she does is her business and that I hope she can finally decide what it is she wants.

At the moment, I think maybe she is just afraid of change. This is a big step. I told her that I would miss her very much. She said I wouldn't. I told her that she has been my life for nine years. I will miss her each and every day. I love her. What I will not miss is the pain of the last year. Sometimes I think things are getting better and then we will have a lasagna incident or a doctor visit and I see that she has no thought for my feelings and I realize that I cannot trust her and she is not interested in developing that trust.

I think we both accept the reality of the separation and we both need it. I don't know why she needs it. It doesn't matter because there is nothing I can do about it. We are getting along very well. No fighting or arguing. We both want to get to Disneyworld - mainly because DDs are driving us both crazy with their anticipation. I weighed her suitcase yesterday and she is at 24.7 Kg so she is good to go.

On my IE home page, msn.com, there is a photograph with the headline "killer claims 48 other murders". The picture looks amazingly like the picture of 2long on the MB photo thread. Coincidence?

Pio, I made you cry once, now you've made me cry.

Coincidence, I don't think so. I'm sure 2long is a killer who would claim 48 other murders. Probably singing old song lyrics and saying "why can't we all just get ALONG." while he murders them.

My first reaction to 2longs picture was "all right! I bet this guy rides a Harley". But then I looked at his picture for a few seconds and I decided that he can't ride a Harley - I don't think he has the stomach for it.

And TGIF

He drives an old 60s VW van. What else would he drive.

And he DOES MARS.

Speaking of 2long and his impending future, I would like to know about terms for jail in other parts of the US and the world. I have:

prison
jail
the slammer
hoosgow
the pokey
the cooler

any others?

I also found this

Pio,

Learn from my mistakes. Never ever tell your kids that you are going to WDW until you are on the way to the airport. Trust me on this, we learned the hard way. I have had to patch a lot of sheetrock where they took turns bouncing off the walls for three weeks.

When they are older, they will invite their friends to join them in going to WDW or the beach or the wherever. All the details will be worked out with the kids and their friend's parents. Everyone but you. Don't do it. Put this time behind you; you didn't know. But learn from your mistakes.


A MISTAKE is when you buy 2% milk when you meant to buy skim milk. Or you put on a blue and a black sock. Or you pump diesel fuel instead of gasoline into your car(yes, WW did this and I forgave her).

An affair is hardly a mistake.


It turns out that your WW is a triplet, not a twin. I am married to the lost triplet. Yes, it is my fault that she had the affair. She has repeated that many times. Of course, now she is in the mode of claiming she never had an affair.


Pio, how exactly did she say this? If she said it in Spanich, kindly provide the English translation, you know for our friends in this thread who may not speak Spanish.