L,

Are you saying that G had the affair because P did not let her in on the financial decision making? And also because of the age difference?

Larousse, I don't know if it's a language problem but, boy, have you got THAT wrong.

I'm 52 years old, I'm still extremely proud of my body and I could show young girls how to do things they don't even know exist.

I'm was trying to point out that there are other factors involved in G's indefinition.

L, I also think Pio has faced every factor there is.

There never has been and never will be any justification for an affair.

Sure. I wish you had talked to my WW so that you could give me insight. Too late for this marriage but the knowledge could be helpful next time, if I ever trust another woman.

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Sorry, L, the language is a bit of a barrier.

I don't know if it's because I work and I work with a lot of young people but I'm always treated as a younger person. I still take stairs two at a time, I wave my arms around a lot, I smile and laugh a lot and I don't dress like an "old" person. I don't dress like a young person either but I've never noticed that I'm "ignored" by men of any age.

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L, as you know, I'm the one that had the A. To keep things like that means a great deal. It is a huge thing to keep things like that.

Luckily, I never had a thing to keep. I had a beer mat from a restaurant we had lunch in and I ripped that up and threw it away as soon as the A ended. I had photos of the OM and I from when we were teenagers and my H and I burnt them one night in a ritual burning. That was about 3 years ago now and was soon after D-day.

Todd,

I understand completely about a man let on his own.

I woman too sometimes but different.

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I think Pio needs to get away from G right now.

I think that is the only thing that will work.

I think gemela needs to see what she will be losing, and she will be losing a very good man.

I understand what you're saying Larousse.

Anyway, it's Monday tomorrow here and even though it's still quite early I think I'll go to bed.

sure Kiwi, thanks for your comments.

Sorry, lost the conection to internet for some minutes

I retrieved my mouse.

People next door really got upset about me reaching under their bed to fetch the mouse.

They could never understand how it got there. So, I explained about particle physics and paired electrons and quarks.

They were not amused.

La version corta y directa.

Estás en un lapso de explosión del dolor y lo estás tratando de hacer desaparecer.

Te duele el brazo y lo quieres cortar como sea.

El brazo no es G y el cortar no es que ella se vaya a Mx.

El brazo es tu dolor interno, profundo, completamente entendible y justificado.

El dolor causado por G no lo va a hacer desaparecer ella.

El dolor del affair no se repara tan sólo con la devoción y el amor del infiel.

Ella no es el problema en este momento, creeme. El problema es que no has podido asimilar y trajar con tú dolor. Lo has estado guardando.

El episodio que estás viviendo y que sea ha venido forjando desde que te enteraste del affair lo estás trabajando de manera pasiva-agresiva.

No te estoy diciendo que seas una personalidad pasivo-agresiva, solo estoy diciendo que estás lidiando con el dolor de manera pasivo-agresiva.

No conozco a tu hermana pero leí sus mails y están llenos de prejuicios y de falta de compasión. Tu hermana, podría estar inflamando la forma en que estás lidiando con el dolor.

Pio, en este momento el menor de tus problemas es G.

Voy en etapas para no perder el post por si se va la luz. Está lloviendo.




Hola Pio,

Disculpa las prisas de ayer y por el confuso inglés. A veces trato de escribir ideas más complejas de lo que soy capaz de articular en inglés.

Tenía varios posts pre-escritos para ir poniendo en la página y al final confundí todo.

Finalmente fue mejor no poner lo que tenía escrito porque, además de ser confuso en inglés, ea demasiado elaborado y subjetivo.

Voy a darte la versión corta, jeje jé y basada sólo en lo que entiendo de MB y lo poco que sé de su situación.

Perdona si suena muy directo, es solo mi interpretación.

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Para mí hay un antes y un después de un post de CCV...
Con CCV llegas a darte cuenta que una parte de la insatisacción que sientes se debe a que das mucho, tiempo, dinero, consideraciones cuando no recibes el trato que esperas (y creo que mereces) te sientes desilusionado y enfadado.

Hasta ese momento, estabas trabajando muy bien en tu Plan A. Cuando CCV insiste en que trabajes en ti, te bloqueaste.

En un último post de esa época, CCV te dice: Pio no puedes seguir sin un Plan, cuál es tu plan. Y tu dices, aparentemente irritado, -Entonces no tengo plan y no tengo razón de estar aquí.

Y te vas, dejas de escribir en el foro, levantas una pelea con los de idiotvile.

Después de días vas regresando pero ya no quieres hablar de ti, de tu día a día y de como estás aplicando las estrategias de MB.

A partir de entonces solo escribes de las cosas que hace G, y de tu insatisfacción, pero ya no estás abierto a sugerencias no a analizar las situaciones diarias,como un ejemplo para tener nuevas dinamica en la relación.

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Para entonces ya habías hecho un trabajo excelente en exponer el affair, confrontar y mandar al maestro a su casa.

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Maybe I should not sleep. Larousse erases too fast. ToddAC - send me the highlights by email.

Okay I have read the last one. I did give up on MB for a span but remember that some posters advised that I needed to. I had gotten to a point of confusion because there were some posters giving my diametrically opposed advice. I think I even remember two women almost getting into a cat fight over an issue and I was no longer even posting. There was another poster who, by her method, seemed to insist on pointing out that there was nothing good about me.

Yes I am disappointed that I believe I have done everything to change myself from the issues that gemela had to make her affair a justifiable cause, done everything I could to give her time and make her have a safe place to be and yet she still hangs onto the affair. I would rather she just get on a plane and go shag pool boy for a year and see if she can make a go of it. The conclusion I have come to is that it is not me - and certainly not me any more. The problem is within gemela and no amount of Plan A can fix it. That frustrates me too but I accept it. Gemela just needs to get off her butt and decide what she wants. At this point I am much happier without her than with her. At this point I have no desire to remain married to her. I don't say anything about that because I am hoping that time apart will make things better. It might also result in divorce. Even that would be better than what I am living now.

I really think gemela needs to try out her affair with the pool boy to eliminate this romantic idea she has. Unfortunately that would definitely be the end of our marriage because I would NEVER EVER take her back if she did. Who knows what new diseases he has acquired.

Thought I would learn a thing or two....about painting...

so watched bios in the following order: Freida Khalo, Diego Rivera, Pollack and Dali.....

....I would NOT recommend you watching ANYONE of them.....particularly Todd....who is already depressed!

I'm still here and will keep writing, I have a personal reason to be awake.

I'm a little bit slow between my fingers and the conection.


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Necesito que me ayudes.

Necesito que dejes de repetir las mismas frases que has estado usando como -Que G se vaya con el pool boy-

Además de las cartas y las fotos hay algo nuevo?

Reconozco y siento y te entiendo, pero para trabajar en esto hay que despojarse de la retorica y las frases hechas.

Eres un ingeniero, vamos a trabajar con hechos, no con frases. Ayudame.

Dame informacion de hechos recientes, hay o no hay?

Son los mismos que ya sabemos?

De lo que me digas dependerá la respuesta que te dé.

Please