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ToddAC #1689098 09/09/06 10:12 PM
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Do I win a prize or do I already have it... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/eek.gif" alt="" />

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Hi 2much,

Boy....I am not totally familiar with your situation...but you got one heck of a WS on your hands!

If it wasn't for your deal with Pio.....

...but then when I think of my WS....he was just as bad if not worse... when WS decided to move out.... I didn't hold him back.... I was totally taken aback by his 'cruelty'.... actually...I think I was in SHOCK!

....my signature line says it all.....went into PLAN B for my sanity!

....don't know how you do it, 2much!

....Please don't tolerate the abuse for toooo long...if you are in PLAN A....I think you are allowed to be honest about your hurt feelings....and tell your WS that you would prefer being treated with respect.... even if he doesn't!

....in my case, the insensitivity and selfishness of WS was really what set him apart from S.... and I was in shock because the 'change' seemed to be sooooo sudden..... learned what it meant to have the 'rug pulled from right under your feet'.....

Once WS moved out, it didn't take me long to decide to go to PLAN B.... WS was too much for me to take!

...I hope you stick to a timeline to put an end to being subjected to the 'abuse'....

Hi Todd...glad to hear you are 'surviving' last night's supper....

....Isn't a little too early to start thinking about Christmas songs?

...Any Bob Dylan fans out there?...Just saw a bio. on him.... I was pretty impressed with the man's achievements!

....Yes oh yes.... the answer is blowing somewhere in the wind!


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not a guy - a gal...


I didn't realize I was being judged for accuracy

lunamare #1689101 09/09/06 10:19 PM
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Hi Todd...glad to hear you are 'surviving' last night's supper....


Thank you. For a few hours today, I wondered if it was my last supper.

ToddAC #1689102 09/09/06 10:21 PM
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For a few hours today, I wondered if it was my last supper.


As if you would be that lucky!!!! I'm not holding back tonight so bring it on.

lunamare #1689103 09/09/06 10:24 PM
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...Any Bob Dylan fans out there?...Just saw a bio. on him.... I was pretty impressed with the man's achievements!

....Yes oh yes.... the answer is blowing somewhere in the wind!


I was a Dylan fan before being a Dylan fan was cool Then somewhere back there in the seventies or eighties, I went to one of his concerts. He was so stoned, he could not perform. I lost all respect for him. I have not bought an album since.

I still like some of his songs. My favorites are "Positively 4th Street" and "Like a Rolling Stone".

Since that time, I started following Jackson Browne and quickly realized that he is the most intelligent songwriter out there.

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Okey dokey, Todd.


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Luna,
Thanks for your support and empathy. If I didn't still have feelings and 3 kids I would have went directly to plan D. I have my deal with Pio till Oct, then I told H that if he passed up the deal to house sit for a year I would allow him to stay in the house even if we decided to D until Spring 07 due to multiple reasons. He told me tonight he is not doing the house sitting. In the past 2 weeks H has supposedly cut ties with OWs, given up his "out" of housesitting, spent more time with family. He says it is never enough for me...I think that if any of what he is saying is true then he is going through withdrawal and taking out all of his anger on me hoping that I push him back to the OWs or that I become the excuse for him to go running back...I refuse to do it. If he wants a batchelor lifestyle he can openly announce it and take credit and consequences for it...I refuse to be a part of it.

Are you divorced or still in plan B?

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Okey dokey, Todd.

I didn't mean to crush your Dylan balloon or anything.

Have you ever heard of Al Kooper?

An album entitled "Super Session"?

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I think that if any of what he is saying is true then he is going through withdrawal and taking out all of his anger on me hoping that I push him back to the OWs or that I become the excuse for him to go running back...I refuse to do it. If he wants a batchelor lifestyle he can openly announce it and take credit and consequences for it...I refuse to be a part of it.

Are you divorced or still in plan B?


I am in PLAN B....

I know what you mean... I also 'stuck it out'...because I also think my WS would have preferred that I 'kick him out'....so he could say, 'see...BS kicked me out!'.....

In my case....WS refused NC with OW....although he is chosing not to live with OW.....I think he wants a 'bachelor life'.....however, he isn't asking for a D...thinks 'moving out' is sufficient.... guess he expects me to the legwork for D.....since I don't want a D.....I will re-evaluate my position at a 2-yr mark......next summer....


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didn't mean to crush your Dylan balloon or anything.

Have you ever heard of Al Kooper?

An album entitled "Super Session"?

It's OK, Todd, you have a right to your 'experience'...

....No...I haven't....are you recommending it?


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Wow, you really were offended.

I apologize. I really do like Dylan. He just upset me at that concert. I didn't have much money in those days and.... well you get the idea.

Al Kooper is a musical icon and probably the least known of his kind. He was originally a musican, quickly turned producer. If I remember correctly, he discovered The Zombies.

Anyway, he was the founding member of Blood Sweat and Tears long before David Clayton Thomas arrived on the scene. Anyway again, side A of Super Session is Kooper with Steven Stills and it is an acoustic rock sort of studio session. In fact, they do the Dylan song, "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It takes a Train to Cry". But the centerpiece of side A and of the entire album is their thirteen minute version of Donovan's "Season of the Witch".

Side B is with Mike Bloomfield, easily the best and least known electric blues guitar player. Great stuff. Anyway, I have recommended the album to many friends and they have offered their profuse thanks over the years.

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Wow, you really were offended.

I really wasn't, Todd.

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I apologize. I really do like Dylan. He just upset me at that concert. I didn't have much money in those days and.... well you get the idea.

...Yes....I do!

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Al Kooper is a musical icon and probably the least known of his kind. He was originally a musican, quickly turned producer. If I remember correctly, he discovered The Zombies.

Anyway, he was the founding member of Blood Sweat and Tears long before David Clayton Thomas arrived on the scene. Anyway again, side A of Super Session is Kooper with Steven Stills and it is an acoustic rock sort of studio session. In fact, they do the Dylan song, "It Takes a Lot to Laugh, It takes a Train to Cry". But the centerpiece of side A and of the entire album is their thirteen minute version of Donovan's "Season of the Witch".

Side B is with Mike Bloomfield, easily the best and least known electric blues guitar player. Great stuff. Anyway, I have recommended the album to many friends and they have offered their profuse thanks over the years.

....Todd??? I think your 'memory' is doing pretty good....


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lunamare #1689111 09/09/06 11:22 PM
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....Todd??? I think your 'memory' is
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doing pretty good....

Well, my longer term memory is good. And my fairly short term memory is okay. It's the midterm stuff which I cannot even define that has suffered.

You know, like who the heck is Pio?

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Todd... How is your DS3 doing?


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Well, DS3 is so much like me it is amazing. He and I do not know the meaning of "give up". He is relentless. I find myself trying to think of the right thing to say to him. Although I will give this M one last run, I am not optimistic. To be clear, I am abundantly pessimistic. WW has backpeddled on her affair. We're "just friends". It sickens me becaue I know OM is behind her latest claim. I overheard the conversation.

So, I tread that thin ground between trying to appear reasonable on the one hand and introducing my son to reality of our family unit because of his Mom's stupid decisions on the other. It is tough. He is not one to accept ambiguity.

My sons mean more to me than anything in the world. This infidleity stuff irks me.

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Blood Sweat and Tears and Donovan


Oh dear, Todd, I fear that you and Superman Rob could never be friends in real life. You just mentioned BS & T and Donovan in the same sentence as "good music" as though they could be possibly be good music.

Rob, who is the same age as you, is PASSIONATE about his music. John Mayall, Fleetwood Mac (before the girls), Little Feat (man, I love Little Feat too), Robert Johnson, the Stones, the Who, Spencer Davis, Gary Moore - shall I continue.

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My tastes are more eclectic and make Rob grind his teeth with embarrassment.

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Although I will give this M one last run, I am not optimistic. To be clear, I am abundantly pessimistic. WW has backpeddled on her affair. We're "just friends". It sickens me becaue I know OM is behind her latest claim. I overheard the conversation.


Todd...are you considering R without NC with OM? ...or are you planning to make it a pre-requisite?


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BTW, I have a similar Joe Cocker story to your Dylan story. He was so drunk he could barely stand up on stage.

When you pays your money you expect an act. It's so disappointing.

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