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lunamare #1689138 09/10/06 09:18 AM
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Why would you think we don't understand? They are talking about getting out of prison.

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Why would you think we don't understand? They are talking about getting out of prison.


Todd....not sure what this applies to....please 'elaborate'

....and how are you this morning?


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lunamare #1689140 09/10/06 09:26 AM
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Hi Luna,

I'm okay. The pico de gallo had its way with me and moved on. I know that stuff is hot but Friday night it was ridiculously hot.

Yes, my reply was obscure, wasn't it?

It applies to this:

Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Ascoltami
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Ti prego
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Io ti giuro
Canto: Parole, parole, parole, parole parole soltanto parole, parole tra noi
Parlato: Ecco il mio destino, parlarti, parlarti come la prima volta
Canto: Che cosa sei, che cosa sei, che cosa sei,
Parlato: No, non dire nulla, c’è la notte che parla
Canto: Cosa sei
Parlato: La romantica notte
Canto: Non cambi mai, non cambi mai, non cambi mai
Parlato: Tu sei il mio sogno proibito
Canto: Proprio mai
Parlato: È vero, speranza
Canto: Nessuno più ti può fermare/ chiamami passione dai, hai visto mai
Parlato: Si spegne nei tuoi occhi la luna e si accendono i grilli
Canto: Caramelle non ne voglio più
Parlato: Se tu non ci fossi bisognerebbe inventarti
Canto: La luna ed i grilli/ normalmente mi tengono sveglia/
mentre io voglio dormire e sognare/ l’uomo che a volte c’è in te quando c’è/
che parla meno/ ma può piacere a me
Parlato: Una parola ancora
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Ascoltami
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Ti prego
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Io ti giuro
Canto: Parole, parole, parole, parole parole soltanto parole, parole tra noi
Parlato: Che cosa sei
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Che cosa sei
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Che cosa sei
Canto: Parole, parole, parole
Parlato: Che cosa sei
Canto: Parole, parole, parole, parole parole soltanto parole, parole tra noi


See all the paroles? They are obviously talking about getting out of jail early. Hmm... something I didn't consider before: I wonder if they are playing Monopoly?

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Well this is strange. I called WW at SIL's house via Skype and set DDs in front of the computer while I went to make them dinner. I could hear them talking and think they were talking to WW but after about a minute DD1 told me that mommy had told her to hang up the phone because she couldn't hear very well and to not call back. I didn't believe DD1 and started to dial again but she insisted that mommy had said not to call back. Weird. Anyway, they aren't upset in the least so we won't call back.

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Well this is strange.


Strange is the right word.

ToddAC #1689143 09/10/06 10:24 AM
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after about a minute DD1 told me that mommy had told her to hang up the phone because she couldn't hear very well and to not call back. I didn't believe DD1 and started to dial again but she insisted that mommy had said not to call back. Weird.


Yeap....weird!


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OK, here's my condensed story:

July '03 after 20 year marriage H says he wants to D.

Claims the ususal, not happy for years, cares for me not in love with me, says there is no one else. He's unwilling to go to counceling, won't consider reconciliation.

I find this site start plan A. Oct. '03 he decides to "give it a year, if he falls back in love with me he'll stay". I'm grateful for the chance.

He doesn't agree with much of MB, won't fill out EN, won't read the materials so I do what I can. We spend some time together but he still spends two nights a week out. One bowling, the other with a friend. I sometimes call to check but there's really no way to know for sure where he is as this friend is his childhood friend who will do anything for h. They bowled together too.

I'm in IC, have gone on AD & H agrees to counceling to "find out what went wrong". Councelor was a bad fit, H didn't participate in a meaningful way. Denies to councelor there is someone else. We see councelor for a few months with virtually no success. He refuses to seek another councelor.

I strongly suspect someone else. H's independent behavior, many phone calls with hang ups other stuff too. Still denies. I do some checking but get nothing solid. H was ex Special Forces knows how to hide his tracks lives by the credo once you deny something you continue to deny, deny, deny.

Almost one year to the day H says he's moving ahead with D.

I try to get phone records, try to get credit card records to prove affair. All done through attorney. He refusses to provide this & as a consequence ends up assuming lots of debt he claims was part mine. Two months after he moves out he buys a car from a co-worker. A couple of months after that he has introduced her to out boys as his gf. She tells the boys a story about their dad that happened years ago at work indicating they've known each other for a long time though he denied this too.

Two weeks after D is final he moves in with gf.

D was final Nov. '05, legal Jan. '06


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Pio, being the cynic I am do you think WW is strategizing with her sister or perhaps involved in another A? Her sister does not sound like a good person for WW to be around as she has an OM.


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Todd - I'm glad to hear you're feeling better. Two of my boys tend to do just what you did the other night, minus the beer. They love the taste of pico de gallo so they keep piling it on then the next day...well, you know that part.

Have you guys heard of Alejandro Sanz or Jarbe de Palo? Two of my favorites even if I don't know what they're saying.

Just as a reward for braking the lawn mower I've decided to take the boys out for lunch. It's a beautiful day & one of our favorite restaurants has seating on a deck which overlooks the Thames (not tems) River.

Now, to get their smelly bodies in the shower...never knew boys could smell quite so bad & still sit close to each other & not notice.

The lawnmower? Later...it's been discussed & is on the agenda. I need sustenance before the drama.


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Little Feat for Todd:

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Oh Atlanta

Got a Place Down Kentucky
Right Down Near Ohio
Where You Can Watch Them Planes At Night
People Line Up Just to Watch Them Fly
I Said Watchin Them Planes
I Wish I Was On One
I'm Sittin' Here Thinkin' 'bout a Brown Haired Girl
If I Could Only Get Her Tonight

Oh Atlanta, Oh Atlanta!
I Said Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Atlanta, Got to Get Back to You

You Can Drop Me Off On Peachtree
I Got to Feel That Georgia Sun
The Women There in Atlanta
They Make Us Both Feel Glad You Come
I Said Watchin' Them Planes
I Wish I Was On One
I'm Sittin' Here Thinking 'bout a Crazy Girl
If I Could Only Get Her Tonight

Oh Atlanta, Oh Atlanta!
I Said Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Atlanta, Got to Get Back to You

You Take a Day O' Nights It's Just You and Me
Where the Diesel Plays All Night
You Got the Boogie Man Goin' 'round For ******
And When They Get to Movin' They Never Stop
You Just Keep On Playin' That Down Home Beat
You Just Keep On Layin' Down High

I Wish I Was On One
Sittin' Here Thinkin' Crazy Scene
If I Could Only, Oh If I Could...

Oh Atlanta, Oh Atlanta!
I Said Yeah! Yeah! Yeah! Atlanta, Got to Get Back to You

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Little Feat for Todd:


Thanks but actually my feat are big. Have trouble finding shoes to fit. 15 in American sizes; don't know how they translates to the rest of the world.

Anyway, great song, obviously. Lowell George and LF spent many of their formative days in Atlanta. As I am sure you know, Lowell George died at an early age I guess about 15 years ago. He and Jackson Browne were best friends. Jackson wrote and recorded a song entitled "Of Missing Persons" as a tribute to Lowell. The song was actually written to Lowell's young daughter (I believe an infant at the time of his death). Lyrics follow.

Your father was a rounder
He played that rock and roll
A leaper and a bounder
Down to his gypsy soul
The music was his angel
And sorrow was his star
And those of us who follow
Might hope to reach as far

They’re walking slow in houston
Speechless in D.C.
There’s no way I could tell you
What he meant to me

Your mother’s a survivor
She’ll do what must be done
Her children will revive her
And help her see the sun
She almost knew that unison
But the singing stopped too soon
Now she shares the silence
With a man up in the moon

To speak of missing persons
Tonight there’s only one
And we all carry with us what the man’s begun

And you can sing this song
On july the fourth
In the sunny south and the frozen north
It’s a day of loss, it’s your day of birth
Does it take a death to learn what a life is worth?

Your brothers are all older
And they’ll take it in their stride
The world’s a little colder
But manhood’s on their side
Now you’re the little girl-child
And you look so much like him
And he’s right there inside you
Each time you want to sing

Sing of missing persons
Tonight there’s only one
But he’s where you can find him when it’s said and done

And we will sing this song
On july the fourth
From the sunny south and the frozen north
This will always be your day of birth
May you always see what your life is worth

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Thanks, Nams, for the condensed story.

How old are the boys?


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ToddAC #1689150 09/10/06 03:32 PM
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Wow, that's really moving. I remember when Lowell George died.

To lighten things up, I've given myself an earworm with Oh Atlanta. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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If anyone is interested in seeing pics of my sons, below is a link to Photobucket.

http://s53.photobucket.com/albums/g42/ToddAC/

Clicking the image enlarges it.

The first pic on the left is DS3 and his new bride, married last month. Next pic are all three sons in the order, left to right, DS3, DS2 and DS1. If you blend DS2 and DS3 together, you get me. Add a few years of seasoning obviously, lol.

WW has been airbrushed out.

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Todd, what amazingly fine and good looking young men. You must be SO proud of them.

Did you mean your house pictures to be attached as well.

BTW when can I move in??????????

When you say airbrushed you actually mean scribbled over with whiteout. LOL

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Thanks Jen. Yes I am extremely proud of them. They have grown into confident young men and while they share many common attributes, they are also individuals. The youngest is a finanical advisor, middle is a scientist (and the smartest in the family) and oldest is a commercial photographer.

I forgot that the house pictures were there.

I used "air brush" as a kinder and gentler term

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The art work over the fireplace is GORGEOUS.

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WHat fine boys Todd - you must be very proud


Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW)
D-Day August 2005
Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23
Empty Nesters.
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Great looking boys Todd! If you're a blend of the two olsest I'm sure you're a hotti! A lovely house too.

Little Feat was always one of my favorites & I have a couple of their songs on my MP3. IMO they just don't have it without LG.

Luna - my boys are 15, 12 & 11. Angels all...when they're sleeping.

OS is working on lawnmower & has had only one hissy fit so far. There are sure to be more.

Lunch was good, the boys are good company for lunch despite some elbows on the table & YS getting fettucine alfrado on his face, his clothes & in his hair. His brothers mentioned his eating habits.


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The art work over the fireplace is GORGEOUS.

Thanks Jen. German born artist, now living in Laguna Beach, California. Manfred Kuhnert is known for his bold colors and aggressive brush strokes. I am happy to report that his oils have increased 450% since we bought that one. BTW, if we do D, I get that painting. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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