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piojitos #1690118 09/22/06 10:10 PM
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speak with her on her level


You may like to rephrase this or, perhaps, explain it.

Don't worry about offending Todd, I've already done it for you.

Nothing gay about this boy BTW.

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Reminds me of the Newly Wed game where they refer to all the SF as whoopee!

yep, dating myself


[color:"purple"] TMI !!!!!!!! [/color]

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You may like to rephrase this or, perhaps, explain it.


What I mean is speak in Spanish because English is not that easy for her. I don't mean talk down to her. I just mean speaking in a language where we have understanding.

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Don't worry about offending Todd, I've already done it for you.


I see now I was making it too complicated. Gudanya!

piojitos #1690122 09/23/06 12:24 AM
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I don't mean talk down to her


Good, thank you for clearing that up.

And this is my FINAL word on woo woo spray. You didn't need your nose anywhere near it (now that conjures up a picture and a half), you just sprayed the stuff and the whole HOUSE could smell it.

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Well I did say I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. Never having used the spray myself, I have a limited frame of reference. OTOH, maybe after my papsmear that 2much recommended, I'll feel the need.

You really must have upset ToddAC.

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One of gemela's comments is that she and OM could talk about anything. In that same comment, she said they could barely understand anything the other said so they constantly had to repeat everything. Gemela can function in English but she understands Spanish. I also admit that there are things I do not know how to explain in Spanish.

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Does anybody know if Rinderella and Cinderella are the same person? It looks suspicious to me.

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You really must have upset ToddAC.


I really hope I haven't. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Isn't this the night he goes out for Mexican food? I hope that's where he is.

Talk about anything?? With that poor excuse for a person. Yes, I'm sure. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif" alt="" />

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I just got off a very very long phone conversation with WW. Or should I say lecture, on her part? She was drunk. When she is drunk there is no reasoning with her so I decided to let her say whatever she wanted to say. She wanted to talk about my exposing her affair. She cannot believe I did it. I asked her which was worse: her affair or my exposing her affair? She said exposure. Did I mention she was drunk?

She said that by exposing her affair, I brought other parties into our marriage which should be between just the two of us. I asked her if she felt so strongly about keeping a marriage between the two of us why did she bring OM into our marriage. She said that was different, that they didn't have an affair, that they were just friends. I told her that there is a book entitled "Not Just Friends". She reminded me that all analysts are crazy and all they want is your money. One thing I learned a long time ago is that you cannot argue with a fool or a drunk.

The conversation went nowhere. She said that I hurt OMXW. That I hurt the kids. That I hurt her Dad and friends. I asked her if she felt like she had any part of it and she said no. She said that I should have known there were marital problems and tended to them. I asked her if she thought that maybe, just maybe, my brain tumor had something to do with me shutting down. She said no, that I don't have a brain tumor and that she had no choice but to respond to OM's advances.

I finally shut down. She wanted to lecture like her Dad and I let her for a few more minutes then told her bye and hung up the phone. She called back and I did not answer. She is a cheater, an alcoholic and a lair.

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They most definitely are not. Unfortunately, Rinderella's name always reminds me of Scooby Doo.

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she had no choice but to respond to OM's advances.


Don't! Stop! Don't! Stop!....Don't stop! Don't stop!

Next time hang up the phone. It is hard enough to reason with a sober WW. I am glad you brought up that she was the first to bring others into your marriage. You were spot on. No matter what has happened or what will happen, WW owns this. She cheated. The rest is just consequential damage.

How did you hurt OMXW? I think OM did that one.

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Rinderella's name always reminds me of Scooby Doo


LMAO

KiwiJ #1690131 09/23/06 01:04 AM
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Todd, that sucks.

So, the verdict is you're not going to try to reconcile?

I certainly hope that's the verdict.

This seems to be a very Hispanic thing. That exposure and shame are worse than the actual A.

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Hola a todas/os <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Time of some Mexican Spanish infiltration. Don't worry, it won't hurt.

What's up? ¿Qué onda?

Pio I think you are too fixated on these pink short, envy perhaps?

Kiwi, that Dan, er... is he single? OMG !

Todd, sorry about that WW's lecture. What's her explanation of the doctor's opinions and exams and treatment you have had?

Nam, BF and I met online, in a thematic site, shortstories. He's 51, divorced 5 years, 2 children. Me single, 39, no children.

BK, didn't England win last year world cup?

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I didn't have a hangover but I did have to work faster in the morning to deliver something on time. Ugh.

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I'm pretty sure England didn't even make the final. Italy won but, like all Mexicans, you stopped watching very early on so I can understand why you didn't see it.

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Talk about anything?? With that poor excuse for a person


Well don't hold back. Tell me how you REALLY feel about me. <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

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I meant the other football, the one with the funny 'ball' and that's played by very rough, masculine guys. Not the American football... <img src="/ubbt/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Pio,

I know I should have hung up the phone. I have done a very stupid thing over the past few weeks. I have allowed myself to believe that R was possible and it set me up for more hurt. She is either confused, under the spell of OM or best friend or is going crazy, or perhaps all three. I am not sure why I listened to her but I did. It is very depressing.

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Todd, sorry about that WW's lecture. What's her explanation of the doctor's opinions and exams and treatment you have had?


Larousee,

I didn't bother to ask her. She is still in such denial it is amazing. What I believe is that in her mind, if she admits that I was ill and her reaction was to have an affair, she cannot deal with that. She was raised with good values and very conservatively so denying my tumor is a coping mechanism for her.

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