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nams #1691638 10/02/06 09:12 PM
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I will say SF with ex was...strained...much of the time. I often felt like I could have been any body & he'd have been fine with that. The lack of emotional intimacy wreaked havoc in our M.

I got sick of living like that so I set out to change the dynamics of our sexual relationship. I felt closer emotionally to ex when we were very sexually active VS going many days without. During those days without he wouldn't share himself emotionally so there would end up being lots of distance. Negative tension built up & made it difficult to approach ex in a natural, comfortable way. Plus, he wasn't playful.


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larousse, no it's not fun to teach one on one. This lady is pretty high maintenance. Meaning I could sit on top of her the whole time & she'd still not quite get it. Fortunately she wants to do hand building VS the wheel so I think she may have better luck producing.

She's a nice person & I enjoyed her more tonight than I ever have (she's a repeat student) so for that reason one on one may just work out. I only got one thing made & it was kinda ugly. I'll look at it again tomorrow & if it's as ugly as I thing I'll just recycle & start over. One of the beauties of clay.


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nams #1691640 10/02/06 09:22 PM
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As I recall the rabbit made Charlote York forgo a social life.


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nams #1691641 10/02/06 09:24 PM
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Bwhahahahah Nams. You are too funny.

I'm sorry I mentioned it.


Me: 56 (FBS) Wife: 55 (FWW)
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Married 11/1982 3 Sons 27,25,23
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I woke up about midnight and discovered DD1 setling in to WW's side of the bed. I asked her why she was there. She said she couldn't sleep because it felt like there were ants in her bed. Knowing the way they stash food, I realized it was a possibility. I went and checked and didn't find any ants but did find that the maid had accidentally put the "guest sheets" (1) on the bed. I quickly changed them and carried DD1 back to her room.

(1) guest sheets are the ones I soak in Clorox and air-dry without rinsing.

bigkahuna #1691643 10/02/06 09:27 PM
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It's true though isn't it bigK? Hey, enough bad dates & it may start to look like a viable alternative.


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piojitos #1691644 10/02/06 09:27 PM
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DDs are up. Anybody have any good home remedies for chemical burn?

nams #1691645 10/02/06 09:31 PM
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I once had the dinner guests from heII over. They brought inferior wine & argued the whole time they were there. I got up from the table, cleaned everything, turned on all the lights, blew out the candles, dissappeared for an hour & they still sat there arguing. They got married & divorced with 2 years.

I love the sheets idea Pio. I'll file that one away for future use.


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nams #1691646 10/02/06 09:33 PM
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The hair of the dog Pio? More chemicals?


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nams #1691647 10/02/06 09:37 PM
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I once had the dinner guests from heII over. They brought inferior wine & argued the whole time they were there.


Were they French?

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I figure "man up my sleeve" AKA guy who doesn't want to remarry, will be returning from Italy any day now. I wonder if he'll call...I wonder if I'll answer...


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nams #1691649 10/02/06 09:41 PM
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Tee hee Todd! No, unfortunately they weren't French. That would have probably made them more exciting.

He was ex an Ranger, moved to Special Forces blow hard she was a Special Forces groupie. Didn't take her long to figure out the disfunction.


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Y'll are too funny but I have to eat.

Clorox and muriatic acid up my nostrils... I hope a strong salsa or jalapeño would subtitute my sufferings.

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Tee hee Todd! No, unfortunately they weren't French. That would have probably made them more exciting.

It also would have explained the cheap wine.....

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He was ex an Ranger, moved to Special Forces blow hard she was a Special Forces groupie. Didn't take her long to figure out the disfunction.

My reference point for Rangers is my cousin who was my best friend growing up. He went to Vietnam for a year and when he came home, we went fishing. He looked at a fisherman on the shore and asked me: Have you ever seen a human head blow up after being shot with a high powered weapon? I said, yes I had. It let the air out of him and he was never the same. He went just a little crazy in Vietnam.

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It's the hideous training that makes them crazy. Well that & there are certain types who fit the mold very nicely. One question they are asked is who would you kill first, your mother or your father. The correct answer is your father so he can't stop you from killing your mother.


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ToddAC #1691653 10/02/06 09:53 PM
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Hey piojiots, get out of my wheelhouse! Yes, my WW clearly chose the A. But it doesn't change the fact that OM is a serial predator either. My WW needed opportunity to cash in; OM provided that opportunity.


Sorry dude but this is one you need to deal with. You say you blame your WW solely for the A but, if it hadn't been for OM, she never would have had one. I am willing to bet you are wrong. OM could have been anyone. This one just happened to be convenient.

Either your WW was 100% responsible and OM means nothing even if he were Lawrence of Arabia or you refuse to let your WW take the blame and it is all OM's fault. I think you are stuck on this fence. I think you want to blame WW and yet don't want to blame her at the same time. You are still trying to protect her.

My belief is that your WW would have found the next OM if this one hadn't been willing. Maybe she couldn't deal with your illness. Maybe she needed comfort to enable her denial. I think your WW was the predator. Sorry. Leave OM alone. If he truly is a predator, he will move on soon enough anyway. Apparently your WW has friends willing to lend a hand.

Every time you mention the predator OM, it fuels your anger and inhibits your healing. Let it go. JMO.

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The hair of the dog Pio? More chemicals?

Turns out it isn't that bad. I pinned a note on her saying she got sunburned. It is strange that it is only on one side though. She looks a little like Richard Dreyfus in Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

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I've been thinking about your WW & her reaction to your illness. I think you give her too much understanding when you say she just isn't able to cope...IMHO


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nams #1691656 10/02/06 10:00 PM
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Sunburn would be believable in SA. Might as well see if the techers buy it.


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nams #1691657 10/02/06 10:05 PM
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There are two things I don't understand your view on concerning your WW. One, the religious, conservative upbringing not allowng her to consider the depths to which she has sunk by having an affair & two, she is so unable to cope with your illness she simply refuses to acknowledege or deal with it.


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